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Anonymous wrote:My kid is there now on a full ride as a NMF, also a city kid. Not rushing but has joined tons of clubs!

He is in the Blount Scholars program, a cohort within the Honors College. It is run by a U Chicago PhD who is fabulous, Dr. Whiting.

Other options are Bama include Witt Fellows and Randall Research Scholars.

https://blount.as.ua.edu/

https://honors.ua.edu/apply/witt-university-fellows-program/

https://honors.ua.edu/apply/randall-research-scholars-program/

https://manderson.culverhouse.ua.edu/stem-path-to-the-mba/

https://history.ua.edu/history-major-named-a-rhodes-scholar/

University of Alabama senior Kate Herndon, a History major, is one of only thirty-two students in the nation to be named a Rhodes Scholar, the most prestigious academic award given to American college graduates and the oldest award for international study.

Herndon is a University Honors Program student majoring in criminal justice and history, with a concentration in legal history, and a native of Newburyport, Massachusetts. She is the fifth History major* and seventeenth UA student to be named a Rhodes Scholar.

https://history.ua.edu/history-major-named-a-rhodes-scholar/

Amherst 21
Bowdoin 22
Middlebury 16
Wesleyan 14
Williams 35

Nuff said…

Now show us how many of those winners were from the last 15 years.

Anonymous wrote:Why not Alabama?

Because you could spend $300k+ going to some northern SLAC where the weather is cold and gray, the women are LGBTQ+, the men are trans (except for the lacrosse team), the students are socialists, and everyone is miserable.

Or you could save the dough, have a great experience, and be happy in normal in the southern sunshine.

The choice is yours. Roll Tide!

Translation: LGBTQ kids need not apply.

I actually lived this (went to college on a full NMF scholarship in a state where I didn't live or plan to live). I think if your "wants to buy a house some day" comment is about how cheap houses are in Alabama, it's probably a bad idea, but if you just want to save money on undergrad it can be good. The fact that your kid wants to pursue a graduate degree means that undergrad won't be as important, and the geographic diversity element can work to their advantage if they're applying far from Alabama for the next step.

The Greek scene is both everywhere and nowhere if you don't rush. Like it's crazy how prevalent it is in freshman year as all the people in your dorm talk about it nonstop, but then when they join they kind of disappear into that world and you stop seeing them at all. I had no interest in that stuff so I just . . . never went to frat parties. I find the concern about it to be overblown unless your kid is actually planning to rush.

The football/basketball stuff was actually really fun for me. I didn't arrive a college football fan but I left as one, and it's a nice community-building vibe to have everyone tailgating/cheering/partying on game days. If you truly hate sports, you will never find a quieter library than during a home game.

The racism is real. Yes racism exists everywhere, but it's a complete fiction when people from the South try to insist that noone uses the "N" word, that nobody is really racist, lookit Boston! Even if your kid finds a good friend group, they're going to be living in a small town in the Deep South where the population quadruples on game day. There will be culture shock.

The weather is going to be despicable (not sure what "so nice to jog" pp is on; mild winters don't really make up for excruciating heat and humidity the other 9 months of the year), but you have to factor that into the cost savings.

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Anonymous wrote:I sent my pretty good stats kid down south for a free education so that we had money for graduate school/law school.

I think he got a good education.

I used to try to talk to him about racism and he thought I was over reacting… it’s not the 60’s anymore.

Going down south you are literally gonna see it face-to-face kids using the n words on the daily. People making racist and insane remarks..

So I’d say the best education my kid got out of the south was that yes racism exist.

This is totally 'tarted. No you aren't.

I don’t really think you’re credible considering use the R word.

A group of racist, on campus day, one protesting women and black being in the school.

Kids dorms had confederate flags and they don’t thread on me. They’ve been multiple viral videos from their school showing students being racist and getting kick kicked out of school.

Without getting into an argument with posters on the specifics of their experiences, the Deep South has a different culture. It has changed a lot since I was a kid in Georgia decades ago, but it is still more socially acceptable there to make racist, comments there than other parts of the country. You don't have to drive far out of Atlanta to run into it. And the Confederate flag is a big part of the culture there.

The paradox is that people in the South are some of the warm, friendliest and kindest people I have ever met. They aren't as reserved, and sometimes aloof, as people on the coasts. It is more socially segregated by race than the West Coast, especially more than the newer developments in the Sacramento and San Joaquin Valleys and the Inland Empire, but it is a matter of degree. There's plenty segregation out here, too.

I live on the West Coast, and I knew a couple of families who had kids who were thinking about going to school in the South. I never said, no, that's a bad idea. I did say, it is different in ways that can't be experienced here, you might want to check it out before sending your kid there. Go there and spend some time to find out if it works for you.

I also grew up in Georgia and I agree with all of this (except for the West coast experience). There are wonderful things about the south and things that I miss about the people, but there is still a big cultural divide and casual racism and closed mindedness. Of course, you can find those things anywhere, but it’s a matter of quantity and how in your face it will be. You just have to be prepared.

2025 is not 2018 or 2000 or even 1980.

Sending a kid to a red state, particularly a DD at this moment in time, is a death sentence. Don't say my DD won't have sex if she is sexually assaulted, they won't help her either.

Not only is Project 2025 a huge problem moving forward, but so are the laws that are changing in these states.

Then there are the employment issues. Companies are not investing right now, and they won't, it is ECON 101. GA just lost a ton of jobs because of the Republicans' stupid ICE stunt. Factories are closing in red states left and right with Trump's policies. If you want your kid to remotely have a chance at employment moving forward, blue states, not red.

Then there are healthcare costs. Red states are going to follow Project 2025 to a T. If you have not read the sections about healthcare might want to find them now!.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is there now on a full ride as a NMF, also a city kid. Not rushing but has joined tons of clubs!

He is in the Blount Scholars program, a cohort within the Honors College. It is run by a U Chicago PhD who is fabulous, Dr. Whiting.

Other options are Bama include Witt Fellows and Randall Research Scholars.

https://blount.as.ua.edu/

https://honors.ua.edu/apply/witt-university-fellows-program/

https://honors.ua.edu/apply/randall-research-scholars-program/

https://manderson.culverhouse.ua.edu/stem-path-to-the-mba/

https://history.ua.edu/history-major-named-a-rhodes-scholar/

University of Alabama senior Kate Herndon, a History major, is one of only thirty-two students in the nation to be named a Rhodes Scholar, the most prestigious academic award given to American college graduates and the oldest award for international study.

Herndon is a University Honors Program student majoring in criminal justice and history, with a concentration in legal history, and a native of Newburyport, Massachusetts. She is the fifth History major* and seventeenth UA student to be named a Rhodes Scholar.

https://history.ua.edu/history-major-named-a-rhodes-scholar/

Amherst 21
Bowdoin 22
Middlebury 16
Wesleyan 14
Williams 35

Nuff said…

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Anonymous wrote:I sent my pretty good stats kid down south for a free education so that we had money for graduate school/law school.

I think he got a good education.

I used to try to talk to him about racism and he thought I was over reacting… it’s not the 60’s anymore.

Going down south you are literally gonna see it face-to-face kids using the n words on the daily. People making racist and insane remarks..

So I’d say the best education my kid got out of the south was that yes racism exist.

What?

I’m a Yankee living in the South. Lots I don’t like.

But number of times I (or my kids) have heard the n word? Zero.

What is right. I am from the South. I went to college in Boston. I have never lived anywhere so racist as Boston. The South couldn't compete if it tried.

Parts of Boston are pretty racist, but they are the exception not the rule. The reverse is true in the South.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, but what about ASU Engineering, same concept, cheaper than mid-tier engineering private, worth it in the end?

Depends on the experience that you want. I have experience with both schools the PP mentioned ASU and Rochester. Rochester is definitely the better school but ASU is fine as well. If your kid wants the large school experience at a great price ASU is an excellent choice. I personally would choose ASU over the equivalent Southern school unless one really wants the SEC Greek life experience.

Anonymous wrote:I sent my pretty good stats kid down south for a free education so that we had money for graduate school/law school.

I think he got a good education.

I used to try to talk to him about racism and he thought I was over reacting… it’s not the 60’s anymore.

Going down south you are literally gonna see it face-to-face kids using the n words on the daily. People making racist and insane remarks..

So I’d say the best education my kid got out of the south was that yes racism exist.

😱 see, this is my fear sending my kid to Alabama. My kid is half white, half Asian. No thanks! I know the word “othered”’ is lame, but my kid doesn’t want to go some place where they’re made fun of! I don’t imagine all those Alabama fraternity bros would be particularly nice.

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Anonymous wrote:I sent my pretty good stats kid down south for a free education so that we had money for graduate school/law school.

I think he got a good education.

I used to try to talk to him about racism and he thought I was over reacting… it’s not the 60’s anymore.

Going down south you are literally gonna see it face-to-face kids using the n words on the daily. People making racist and insane remarks..

So I’d say the best education my kid got out of the south was that yes racism exist.

What?

I’m a Yankee living in the South. Lots I don’t like.

But number of times I (or my kids) have heard the n word? Zero.

You obviously don’t get out much.

Anonymous wrote:Why not Alabama?

Because you could spend $300k+ going to some northern SLAC where the weather is cold and gray, the women are LGBTQ+, the men are trans (except for the lacrosse team), the students are socialists, and everyone is miserable.

Or you could save the dough, have a great experience, and be happy in normal in the southern sunshine.

The choice is yours. Roll Tide!

Perfect example of the poor state of Southern education.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, it’s better than Ole Miss!

It’s as others say - there is overt racism. It’s possible to avoid that but you need to work harder. Take a look at the sororities and look at the “rankings” online. Those that are diverse at all are ranked lowest (and we aren’t talking really diverse lol). When you look at the IG pages, the girls seem lovely. More of them are out of state and so may not know as many people. So it seems like you could have a solid friend group of relatively open minded people. But you’re at the lower end of the totem pole and there is a dominant culture and hierarchy that you’re not part of. Not what I would want for my kids, whether they are white or not.

Not much different than the selective Ivy societies.

My urm spouse wasn’t exactly invited to hang with Skull & Bones.

There’s an extremely small percentage of people who like people from Ivy League schools. I mean, the majority of them are pretty horrible.

These are the people that crash, our economy, white-collar crime, cause our economy to lose $1 billion a day.

It’s a different side of the same coin.

Not really able to understand what you are spewing Karen. You must have been educated in the South.

Anonymous wrote:It's a fine school for the right kid, but you haven't really given a reason "why Alabama" before asking why not. It feels you'd want a reason why first for any college.

+100

Because it’s in Alabama

Campus wise, Alabama is spectacular. Not many schools on its level for its beauty. For example, UVA/Charlottesville can NOT hang with UA/Tuscaloosa.

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Anonymous wrote:I sent my pretty good stats kid down south for a free education so that we had money for graduate school/law school.

I think he got a good education.

I used to try to talk to him about racism and he thought I was over reacting… it’s not the 60’s anymore.

Going down south you are literally gonna see it face-to-face kids using the n words on the daily. People making racist and insane remarks..

So I’d say the best education my kid got out of the south was that yes racism exist.

This is totally 'tarted. No you aren't.

I don’t really think you’re credible considering use the R word.

A group of racist, on campus day, one protesting women and black being in the school.

Kids dorms had confederate flags and they don’t thread on me. They’ve been multiple viral videos from their school showing students being racist and getting kick kicked out of school.

Without getting into an argument with posters on the specifics of their experiences, the Deep South has a different culture. It has changed a lot since I was a kid in Georgia decades ago, but it is still more socially acceptable there to make racist, comments there than other parts of the country. You don't have to drive far out of Atlanta to run into it. And the Confederate flag is a big part of the culture there.

The paradox is that people in the South are some of the warm, friendliest and kindest people I have ever met. They aren't as reserved, and sometimes aloof, as people on the coasts. It is more socially segregated by race than the West Coast, especially more than the newer developments in the Sacramento and San Joaquin Valleys and the Inland Empire, but it is a matter of degree. There's plenty segregation out here, too.

I live on the West Coast, and I knew a couple of families who had kids who were thinking about going to school in the South. I never said, no, that's a bad idea. I did say, it is different in ways that can't be experienced here, you might want to check it out before sending your kid there. Go there and spend some time to find out if it works for you.

I also grew up in Georgia and I agree with all of this (except for the West coast experience). There are wonderful things about the south and things that I miss about the people, but there is still a big cultural divide and casual racism and closed mindedness. Of course, you can find those things anywhere, but it’s a matter of quantity and how in your face it will be. You just have to be prepared.