Anonymous wrote:Elvis and Eddie Murphy’s stand up specials.

I think both were/are such great entertainers they'd have no problem delivering performances that would be okay today... Eddie Murphy doesn't need those jokes to be funny, he's just funny.

where were you raised that that wasn't "virulent"???

he called people coons- in 1976 and wogs!! Jesus Wept.


and his fellow , white, musicians thought he was weird b/c of his "beef" with Hendrix when Hendrix could've cared less about him. like he was shaking angry and upset that he had to play with him and the other white guys who were also products of that time thought he was racist and strange while they observed his behavior unreal time and then they told other peopl- hey this guy is a freak white supramacist. so no just your grandpa-pay was a racist just means that your family was backwards and uneducated, everyone else thought y'all were weird and backwards and uncouth and uneducated. it was just your family and friends.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread would be a lot more interesting if people would say what the person did. I had no idea Eric Clapton and Rob Lowe were creeps and have no clue what they did.

Eric Clapton is a virulent racist and Rob Lowe filmed himself having sex with a young teenager.

Only linking to (one example) of the former https://www.reddit.com/r/pinkfloyd/comments/18go8k7/i_just_came_across_this_racist_rant_that_eric/

Virulent? You should be prepaared to cancel anyone born before 1990 if that's your definition of "virulent".

"At a 1976 concert in Birmingham, England, Clapton launched into a drunken tirade supporting anti‑immigration politician Enoch Powell and used racist slurs. The incident helped spark the Rock Against Racism movement. Clapton has since said he was ashamed and blamed alcoholism, but many listeners and musicians view the episode as disqualifying or unforgivable, or feel his later explanations were insufficient. The rant remains the single most cited reason people reject him."

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Anonymous wrote:This thread would be a lot more interesting if people would say what the person did. I had no idea Eric Clapton and Rob Lowe were creeps and have no clue what they did.

Eric Clapton is a virulent racist and Rob Lowe filmed himself having sex with a young teenager.

Only linking to (one example) of the former https://www.reddit.com/r/pinkfloyd/comments/18go8k7/i_just_came_across_this_racist_rant_that_eric/

At this point why would anyone care? Just turn off the classic rock station if it offends your ears. But Clapton is too old to be canceled now.

Well because he’s not just kind of weird, he’s a really vicious racist! It’s off putting! The music doesn’t offend my ears!

Also, the attitude “just turn it off if you don’t like it” is literally the thing conservatives complain about.

We can't erase history. It is what it is. He was a product of a different time and different culture. Everyone can't be held to American standards of 2025.

Do you think non-white people of the time thought it was ok?
People knew it was hateful then, that was the whole point of it. Racists (and sexists and abusers) revelled in their power to do it anyway.

his rant literally started a movement against racist rock stars and an gknowledgemt that rock music is Black!! so no, ppl at his time very much disagreed with and objected to Enoch Powell and Eric Clapton.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Albert Einstein take credit for work his wife did?

Hadn't heard that... that might also be an example of a thing where because of the time, his wife never could have had her work published so giving it to him is the way to do it—I guess the question would be whether he would do the same thing today? I'm not sure it'd be cancellable, but there'd be a celebrity divorce.

hmm not really an excuse- einsteinium was an a$$ about taking her work b/c Pierre Curie was originally awarded the Nobel prize for his work and Marie Curies and HE insisted that she be included in the prize and explained which part of the work was hers and she was awarded two Nobels which is a very big deal. So if Pierre Curie could do it, so could Einstein.

Mahatma Gandhi and Mother Teresa.

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Anonymous wrote:Cancel culture is a myth, peeps.

Your crime has to be pretty bad to not get a redemption tour.

I was looking at upcoming comedy shows and both Louis CK and Chris Delia are touring. Mel Gibson is in movies again.

And when the "crime" is dubious (Ansari, Gunn, Takei, Lowe), the initial furor wears off and things resume as normal.

I would like someone to note someone who was truly cancelled who didn't deserve it. Seriously...name one.

Al Franken

+1. I thought Al Franken too as soon as I read that.

Anonymous wrote:Hugh Hefner obviously.

Kim Kardashian maybe? When the Kardashians first came into public view, they had this weird appropriation of Black women. Surgically altered butts, makeup, clothing and jewelry to imitate Black women and also dating Black men. Not sure it would rise to “cancelling” them but I think if they pulled that in 2020 rather than 2008, there would be more calling them out / criticizing them.

Yes, I’m certain Black men would be protesting coast to coast these days.

Anonymous wrote:Didn't Albert Einstein take credit for work his wife did?

Yes. She famously dusted the living room & Einstein told a visiting physicist that he himself did it. What a revolting person.

Teddy Kennedy.

Elvis and Eddie Murphy’s stand up specials.

Anonymous wrote:Cancel culture is a myth, peeps.

Your crime has to be pretty bad to not get a redemption tour.

I was looking at upcoming comedy shows and both Louis CK and Chris Delia are touring. Mel Gibson is in movies again.

And when the "crime" is dubious (Ansari, Gunn, Takei, Lowe), the initial furor wears off and things resume as normal.

I would like someone to note someone who was truly cancelled who didn't deserve it. Seriously...name one.

Al Franken

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Anonymous wrote:I’d rather tolerate an imperfect genius when the alternative is mildly talented mediocrity. Just goes to show people can’t be great at everything.

So, you’d give bill Cosby a pass because he was such a comedic genius who redefined the sitcom?

I used to love Louis CK but honestly all of his jokes about being a creep, jerking off too much, etc just suddenly weren’t as funny when you found out he was just describing his actual life and it’s not “haha listen to this exaggerated caricature of me”

That said I saw a recent clip of him talking about the whole thing and his regrets, etc and I’d totally be interested in seeing him again. But if it turns out it’s still just him talking about his dick and jerking off I’ll pass

He’s been doing “it” again recently (ie showing his dick to non consenting women). It’s so creepy and so stupid and so incredible he’s still doing it.

Mother Theresa

Hugh Hefner obviously.

Kim Kardashian maybe? When the Kardashians first came into public view, they had this weird appropriation of Black women. Surgically altered butts, makeup, clothing and jewelry to imitate Black women and also dating Black men. Not sure it would rise to “cancelling” them but I think if they pulled that in 2020 rather than 2008, there would be more calling them out / criticizing them.