Anonymous wrote:[twitter]Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think Lauryn is really dumb. She comes across as very low IQ, but also very sweet girl.
She had to have known that her spoiler was a witch. Usually abusers don't have just one target. Spoiler was probably abusing other people in that circle for years.
This is like that story of the Liz Golyar that went on one date with a guy and then proceeded to kill his girlfriend and cyber stalked him and herself for years.
https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/lover-stalker-killer-release-date-news
That's a mean and unnecessary statement. She was 13 when this particular incident started, and she has probably been manipulated her entire life. You sound like a bully.
Did you see the part where I said she was a sweet girl? I'm saying dumb based on her interview today as an adult. My impression is that she's very low IQ. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that but that doesn't allow her to see obvious manipulation by her mother.
She’s clearly not. As the parent of a child with an actual low IQ, STFU. She’s going to college and she is clearly a relatively articulate and typical child. I don’t think you have any idea how a low IQ person functions. But this is offensive nonsense.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did Lauryn and Spoiler sit in same room for Netflix? Are they talking?
There was a body camera video from during the investigation. I guess you never know how you would react in those situations, but nobody's reaction on that bodycam video was what I would expect. Too calm, maybe? Like, even if they didn't know that this specific trouble was coming at this time; they knew something was coming.
Well the police officer was being very indirect. He was talking like he was sympathetic to Kendra and so Lauren just sat in a stupor unsure of what was even going on. It is a hard pill to swallow that those sexual and demeaning messages were coming from inside her own home, and the fact that the policeman never even came out and said it directly didn't help her processing.
Heck, I was confused as hell during that whole conversation, and I am an adult who already knew what was going on. I don't understand what exactly that whole word salad was even supposed to be about. And then he just leaves all these upset people sitting there, like "Well I hope you guys can work all this out! See ya." Like ??? what?
I am also very baffled as to why they were even discussing anything with Lauryn with her abuser in the same room at that point. Like why didn't they talk to Lauryn and her father alone and clearly explain what had been going on and how they knew for a fact it was her mom? And why wasn't there a counselor or therapist present? It's not like this insane woman went from having a perfectly healthy relationship with her daughter to launching this abuse campaign and there's just nothing else to start unpacking there. Lauryn seemed like, at least at the time of filming, that she's still very much wrapped up in a toxic relationship with her mom. I hope she has a REALLY good therapist who can help her see that (if she hasn't already) and to help her process/heal from the betrayal and abuse. (I bet there have been a lot of other things throughout Lauryn's childhood too; a mother who is so heinous as to do what she did to her child doesn't just start out of no where).
Agree. It made me wonder if Lauryn understood exactly what was happening in that moment.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did Lauryn and Spoiler sit in same room for Netflix? Are they talking?
There was a body camera video from during the investigation. I guess you never know how you would react in those situations, but nobody's reaction on that bodycam video was what I would expect. Too calm, maybe? Like, even if they didn't know that this specific trouble was coming at this time; they knew something was coming.
In the bodcam reveal, I found the officer's explanation to Lauryn truly bizarre. He never explicitly said, "Spoiler is responsible for the text messages." He tiptoed around an explanation, saying, "Spoiler has had some financial difficulties and has made some mistakes," but didn't mention the texting harassment. No wonder Lauryn didn't react. Then Spoiler's spouse comes in and says, "When did you lose your job?" Again, not addressing the more obvious crime/betrayal to Lauryn. I feel so bad for that kid.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Even if Lauryn figured out who the perpetrator was before they were arrested, I’m sure she was in denial and survival mode. She was so young and the texts were so graphic her mind may have been trying to protect her. She was and still is a child.
I do not believe for one second Lauryn was in on it.
I don't think anyone thinks Lauryn was in on it. She may have known about it at some point though. If she knew about it or suspected it, she knew enough about her mother to know the woman did what she wanted. Lauryn couldn't have gotten her to stop. Lauryn's lack of reaction at the reveal was weird. It did seem she wasn't surprised at all.
Parents of the the girl with long dark hair, the cop and his wife, said explicitly that they thought that the husband and the daughter were in on it.
NP. Those people were nutso! Their daughter was definitely a bully and while she wasn't the perpetrator in this situation, I think it says a lot that pretty much everyone in the town thought it could've been her. Even Owen, her so-called friend, said rather explicitly that she was not a nice person.
And the parents seemed mean too.
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Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Even if Lauryn figured out who the perpetrator was before they were arrested, I’m sure she was in denial and survival mode. She was so young and the texts were so graphic her mind may have been trying to protect her. She was and still is a child.
I do not believe for one second Lauryn was in on it.
I don't think anyone thinks Lauryn was in on it. She may have known about it at some point though. If she knew about it or suspected it, she knew enough about her mother to know the woman did what she wanted. Lauryn couldn't have gotten her to stop. Lauryn's lack of reaction at the reveal was weird. It did seem she wasn't surprised at all.
Parents of the the girl with long dark hair, the cop and his wife, said explicitly that they thought that the husband and the daughter were in on it.
NP. Those people were nutso! Their daughter was definitely a bully and while she wasn't the perpetrator in this situation, I think it says a lot that pretty much everyone in the town thought it could've been her. Even Owen, her so-called friend, said rather explicitly that she was not a nice person.
And the parents seemed mean too.
+1
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think Lauryn is really dumb. She comes across as very low IQ, but also very sweet girl.
She had to have known that her spoiler was a witch. Usually abusers don't have just one target. Spoiler was probably abusing other people in that circle for years.
This is like that story of the Liz Golyar that went on one date with a guy and then proceeded to kill his girlfriend and cyber stalked him and herself for years.
https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/lover-stalker-killer-release-date-news
That's a mean and unnecessary statement. She was 13 when this particular incident started, and she has probably been manipulated her entire life. You sound like a bully.
Did you see the part where I said she was a sweet girl? I'm saying dumb based on her interview today as an adult. My impression is that she's very low IQ. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that but that doesn't allow her to see obvious manipulation by her mother.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think Lauryn is really dumb. She comes across as very low IQ, but also very sweet girl.
She had to have known that her spoiler was a witch. Usually abusers don't have just one target. Spoiler was probably abusing other people in that circle for years.
This is like that story of the Liz Golyar that went on one date with a guy and then proceeded to kill his girlfriend and cyber stalked him and herself for years.
https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/lover-stalker-killer-release-date-news
That's a mean and unnecessary statement. She was 13 when this particular incident started, and she has probably been manipulated her entire life. You sound like a bully.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did Lauryn and Spoiler sit in same room for Netflix? Are they talking?
There was a body camera video from during the investigation. I guess you never know how you would react in those situations, but nobody's reaction on that bodycam video was what I would expect. Too calm, maybe? Like, even if they didn't know that this specific trouble was coming at this time; they knew something was coming.
Well the police officer was being very indirect. He was talking like he was sympathetic to Kendra and so Lauren just sat in a stupor unsure of what was even going on. It is a hard pill to swallow that those sexual and demeaning messages were coming from inside her own home, and the fact that the policeman never even came out and said it directly didn't help her processing.
Heck, I was confused as hell during that whole conversation, and I am an adult who already knew what was going on. I don't understand what exactly that whole word salad was even supposed to be about. And then he just leaves all these upset people sitting there, like "Well I hope you guys can work all this out! See ya." Like ??? what?
I am also very baffled as to why they were even discussing anything with Lauryn with her abuser in the same room at that point. Like why didn't they talk to Lauryn and her father alone and clearly explain what had been going on and how they knew for a fact it was her mom? And why wasn't there a counselor or therapist present? It's not like this insane woman went from having a perfectly healthy relationship with her daughter to launching this abuse campaign and there's just nothing else to start unpacking there. Lauryn seemed like, at least at the time of filming, that she's still very much wrapped up in a toxic relationship with her mom. I hope she has a REALLY good therapist who can help her see that (if she hasn't already) and to help her process/heal from the betrayal and abuse. (I bet there have been a lot of other things throughout Lauryn's childhood too; a mother who is so heinous as to do what she did to her child doesn't just start out of no where).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Even if Lauryn figured out who the perpetrator was before they were arrested, I’m sure she was in denial and survival mode. She was so young and the texts were so graphic her mind may have been trying to protect her. She was and still is a child.
I do not believe for one second Lauryn was in on it.
I don't think anyone thinks Lauryn was in on it. She may have known about it at some point though. If she knew about it or suspected it, she knew enough about her mother to know the woman did what she wanted. Lauryn couldn't have gotten her to stop. Lauryn's lack of reaction at the reveal was weird. It did seem she wasn't surprised at all.
Parents of the the girl with long dark hair, the cop and his wife, said explicitly that they thought that the husband and the daughter were in on it.
NP. Those people were nutso! Their daughter was definitely a bully and while she wasn't the perpetrator in this situation, I think it says a lot that pretty much everyone in the town thought it could've been her. Even Owen, her so-called friend, said rather explicitly that she was not a nice person.
And the parents seemed mean too.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Even if Lauryn figured out who the perpetrator was before they were arrested, I’m sure she was in denial and survival mode. She was so young and the texts were so graphic her mind may have been trying to protect her. She was and still is a child.
I do not believe for one second Lauryn was in on it.
I don't think anyone thinks Lauryn was in on it. She may have known about it at some point though. If she knew about it or suspected it, she knew enough about her mother to know the woman did what she wanted. Lauryn couldn't have gotten her to stop. Lauryn's lack of reaction at the reveal was weird. It did seem she wasn't surprised at all.
Parents of the the girl with long dark hair, the cop and his wife, said explicitly that they thought that the husband and the daughter were in on it.