Anonymous
08/12/2025 09:06
Subject: Re:Waitlist data August update
Anonymous wrote:McArthur offered basically all their 9th grade seats in the lottery this year and Hardy is blazing thru their waitlist.
Nothing to see here people. Must be a data error. LOL!
What do you want to see here?
Hardy is doing great. Why would people turn it down? Bests me. It's a great school; good for whoever ends up there.
Anonymous
08/11/2025 23:14
Subject: Re:Waitlist data August update
McArthur offered basically all their 9th grade seats in the lottery this year and Hardy is blazing thru their waitlist.
Nothing to see here people. Must be a data error. LOL!
Nothing to see here people. Must be a data error. LOL!
Anonymous
08/11/2025 20:57
Subject: Re:Waitlist data August update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish they would list the current waitlist length not just number of offers.
Post-lottery adds are really not plentiful enough to noticeably change the length from match day forost schools. Assume fewer than 5 post-lottery adds at most schools, maybe as many as 10 in a flukey year.
But mostly the length of the wait-list on match day minus number if wait-list offers is a good approximation.
I guess I was thinking more I’m curious how many spits those offers actually mean. A school might offer 20 seats to fill one or offer 20 seats and fill 20 seats because 20 students unenrolled over the summer opening more space. I guess waitlist length isn’t the right thing but is there a way to tell the difference between those scenarios.
You can't tell that just by looking at the numbers in a vacuum, but if you tell us what school or schools you are wondering about, we can often figure it out here. People often have knowledge about things like schools adding another classroom (in which case a move of 20 or 30 in the waitlist probably corresponds to close to that many actual spots in the new classroom) or alternatively about an issue at the school that may be leading many people to turn down offers (like for instance this year Brent is burning through their waitlists, which likely reflects a combination of some students choosing not to return AND some waitlist spots being offered to many families before finding a taker, because they are moving to a swing space that is far from their usual campus -- Brent families can probably provide some insight because they will have a good sense of what other families are doing and thus how many spots are being made available over the summer).
So if you have specific tests you are wondering about, just ask and you can get good insight here. Like the insight earlier in this thread about Ludlow-Taylor being cautious about waitlist offers over the summer due to over enrollment issues in two grades last year.
Anonymous
08/11/2025 20:31
Subject: Re:Waitlist data August update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish they would list the current waitlist length not just number of offers.
Post-lottery adds are really not plentiful enough to noticeably change the length from match day forost schools. Assume fewer than 5 post-lottery adds at most schools, maybe as many as 10 in a flukey year.
But mostly the length of the wait-list on match day minus number if wait-list offers is a good approximation.
I guess I was thinking more I’m curious how many spits those offers actually mean. A school might offer 20 seats to fill one or offer 20 seats and fill 20 seats because 20 students unenrolled over the summer opening more space. I guess waitlist length isn’t the right thing but is there a way to tell the difference between those scenarios.
Anonymous
08/11/2025 19:57
Subject: Waitlist data August update
It seems obvious the Hardy number is a typo and is supposed to say 10 or 11 and an extra digit was added.
Anonymous
08/11/2025 18:17
Subject: Waitlist data August update
People also drop off the lists. It sort of very roughly balances out with post-lottery adds.
Anonymous
08/11/2025 18:16
Subject: Waitlist data August update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hardy? It is only 29 more lottery seat offers than 2 years ago. A small drop in IB enrollment and/or an uptick in people turning it down could get you that.
No it’s about 75 more waitlist offers than 2 years ago
Here is the waitlists data until now for the past 3 years for Hardy and Deal
HARDY Deal
101 2
27 1
28 0
So there has been a huge jump in waitlist movement at Hardy, almost 500% or 5 fold this year while nothing has changed at Deal.
You can’t say this is due to fed layoffs and the economic uncertainty, because it would affect both schools and not just 1.
I doubt that it is a data error. It is such a huge change and admin at Hardy would definately notice this and check before reporting it to my school.dc
Common sense and deduction is it’s because of the feeder change. Kids now have to go to MA and it’s not a desirable feeder. So this affects things upstream like Hardy. This happens all the time in the burbs when there are boundary changes to a pyramid and schools in that pyramid become less desirable.
Hardy will fill their classes but there is going to be alot more OOB kids who then pull in siblings OOB who then all go to MA further contributing to significant OOB numbers, not to mention current OOB MA kids pulling in siblings to MA each year.
MA has not gotten a lot of IB buy in and now 3 years later it’s obvious how the school is shaping up, presenting a clearer picture to families who have options, of which some are no longer choosing this pyramid.
You keep repeating the same pit h but with so many inaccuracies.
First, MacArthur has only existed 2 years, not 3, and it hasn't "shaped" yet into a final form as te first Hardy class feeding exclusively to MacArthur has yet to start!
Second, the last two years of lottery participants also knew that the feed was MacArthur. The feed information has not changed in the last 3 years.
If people are turning down Hardy, that's their loss. My DC had a fabulous experience.
If this year's number of offers is high because they are greatly expanding 6th Grade, that would be a problem and DCPS's fault. It is not the school's goal to increase enrollment significantly, as I understand it, but who know DCPS's plan. If I were to receive an offer, I would ask about grade size and whether it has bern increased.
Anonymous
08/11/2025 18:09
Subject: Waitlist data August update
Deal is also so large/over-enrolled that they probably wouldnt offer seats even the class size is slightly smaller.
Anonymous
08/11/2025 18:07
Subject: Waitlist data August update
It is not quite that drastic because the other years had more seats offered in the initial lottery.
Anonymous
08/11/2025 18:01
Subject: Waitlist data August update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hardy? It is only 29 more lottery seat offers than 2 years ago. A small drop in IB enrollment and/or an uptick in people turning it down could get you that.
No it’s about 75 more waitlist offers than 2 years ago
Here is the waitlists data until now for the past 3 years for Hardy and Deal
HARDY Deal
101 2
27 1
28 0
So there has been a huge jump in waitlist movement at Hardy, almost 500% or 5 fold this year while nothing has changed at Deal.
You can’t say this is due to fed layoffs and the economic uncertainty, because it would affect both schools and not just 1.
I doubt that it is a data error. It is such a huge change and admin at Hardy would definately notice this and check before reporting it to my school.dc
Common sense and deduction is it’s because of the feeder change. Kids now have to go to MA and it’s not a desirable feeder. So this affects things upstream like Hardy. This happens all the time in the burbs when there are boundary changes to a pyramid and schools in that pyramid become less desirable.
Hardy will fill their classes but there is going to be alot more OOB kids who then pull in siblings OOB who then all go to MA further contributing to significant OOB numbers, not to mention current OOB MA kids pulling in siblings to MA each year.
MA has not gotten a lot of IB buy in and now 3 years later it’s obvious how the school is shaping up, presenting a clearer picture to families who have options, of which some are no longer choosing this pyramid.
Anonymous
08/11/2025 17:46
Subject: Re:Waitlist data August update
Anonymous wrote:I wish they would list the current waitlist length not just number of offers.
Post-lottery adds are really not plentiful enough to noticeably change the length from match day forost schools. Assume fewer than 5 post-lottery adds at most schools, maybe as many as 10 in a flukey year.
But mostly the length of the wait-list on match day minus number if wait-list offers is a good approximation.
Anonymous
08/11/2025 17:24
Subject: Re:Waitlist data August update
I wish they would list the current waitlist length not just number of offers.
Anonymous
08/11/2025 13:47
Subject: Waitlist data August update
Anonymous wrote:Hardy? It is only 29 more lottery seat offers than 2 years ago. A small drop in IB enrollment and/or an uptick in people turning it down could get you that.
No it’s about 75 more waitlist offers than 2 years ago
Anonymous
08/11/2025 10:42
Subject: Waitlist data August update
Hardy? It is only 29 more lottery seat offers than 2 years ago. A small drop in IB enrollment and/or an uptick in people turning it down could get you that.
Anonymous
08/10/2025 20:38
Subject: Re:Waitlist data August update
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Absolutely no chance for Spanish or Chinese at DCI. French is the only way to possibly get in if you are lucky as a non-feeder.
Spanish made 12 offers in 6th and 9th. Chinese made 20 offers in 9th. I realize it will get harder as the feeders increase in size, but not impossible this year.
PP above. My post was pertaining to middle school for 6th grade.
Those Spanish offers went to feeder kids who were on the waitlist. Not non-feeder kids
How do you know?
Because feeder kids on the waitlist get preference. If you look at the individual schools breakdown, you will see a few kids on the waitlist
I'm confused-- I see the waitlisted feeder kids receiving offers within their own DCI feeders category on the Tableau site. Wouldn't it be double-counting to show them receiving offers under their feeder category and then also in the non-feeder?
Also, I don't see a preference category in the non-feeder drop-down menu for feeder graduates. So how does it work exactly?
It is not double counted. There is the general waitlist for everyone.
The individual school lists shows you how many seats for each school and if they have kids waitlisted.
Then the feeder waitlisted kids gets whatever seats are left that any feeder kids decline.
People just accept the fact that if you at a non-feeder you are not going to get in the Spanish track and have plan B. Makes like a lot easier to plan.
But how do feeder kids have a preference in the general waitlist if it's not listed as a preference category in the table? I don't disagree with your conclusion but it seems like you can't explain how it fits with the data display.
Certain schools are allotted a specific number of seats at DCI. Some dont use all their seats. So every kid from those schools automatically gets in. They don’t have to bother with the waitlist.