Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 09:21     Subject: Horrifying organ donation article
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I used to work in healthcare. I will say this: I know this is happening. Organs are big business $$$$. This is discusting and at this point in time it's not a good idea to put your name on the donation list.

Furthermore if you think this is horrifying. Please go watch the documentary Trafficked with Mariana Van Zeller, Black Market Organs. Also eye-opening.

I think a lot of people are very ignorant about what's happening in hospitals these days. The reach they have, the many, many people who look the other way each day at work. The lack of whistle blowers. The people who walk with their heads down in the hallways.


Watching what happens to healthcare whistleblowers has changed my outlook on healthcare completely. The system tries to destroy them. I’m honestly shocked the NYT was able to even report on this.


What happens to them? Can you give examples?
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 07:08     Subject: Horrifying organ donation article
Anonymous wrote:Would it not be possible to take yourself off the organ donation list but include in a living will a directive or request that if you are truly in brain death, not just circulatory death, that your spouse/POA can take you off life support and donate your organs?


Sure. The main downside is that in a situation where your family is not there fast enough - for example, a car accident on your commute - your organs will not be used. Ditto if your designated person were injured in the car with you.
That's a legit downside and a reduction in donations that will happen if people opt out. You have to weigh the likelihood of that against the likelihood you are in one of these weird but horrific situations where the OPO is pushing and the doc isn't sure.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 07:03     Subject: Re:Horrifying organ donation article
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I opted out in Virginia, but wrote an email to my DH (so that he can refer to it if questioning himself) saying that I support donation and support him in making the call even if I am having reflexive movements. I just want the decision to come from family.


How do you opt out in Virginia? To clarify, do you actually have to go to the DMV in person as a few others here have mentioned?


No, you do not go in person. You opt out of the registry online, and then if you want you can also have your driver's license reissued (online) for $20. The link to the registry is on the VA DMV website.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 03:51     Subject: Horrifying organ donation article
Would it not be possible to take yourself off the organ donation list but include in a living will a directive or request that if you are truly in brain death, not just circulatory death, that your spouse/POA can take you off life support and donate your organs?
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 01:49     Subject: Re:Horrifying organ donation article
Anonymous wrote:I’m glad this discussion is happening. People are waking up:



Good.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 01:30     Subject: Re:Horrifying organ donation article
I’m glad this discussion is happening. People are waking up:

Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 01:27     Subject: Re:Horrifying organ donation article
And then, if you’re on the receiving end, you better hope you help meet some racial quota, or it’s to the back of the line for you:

Anonymous
Post 07/22/2025 14:42     Subject: Horrifying organ donation article
Anonymous wrote:I used to work in healthcare. I will say this: I know this is happening. Organs are big business $$$$. This is discusting and at this point in time it's not a good idea to put your name on the donation list.

Furthermore if you think this is horrifying. Please go watch the documentary Trafficked with Mariana Van Zeller, Black Market Organs. Also eye-opening.

I think a lot of people are very ignorant about what's happening in hospitals these days. The reach they have, the many, many people who look the other way each day at work. The lack of whistle blowers. The people who walk with their heads down in the hallways.


Watching what happens to healthcare whistleblowers has changed my outlook on healthcare completely. The system tries to destroy them. I’m honestly shocked the NYT was able to even report on this.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2025 14:14     Subject: Horrifying organ donation article
I used to work in healthcare. I will say this: I know this is happening. Organs are big business $$$$. This is discusting and at this point in time it's not a good idea to put your name on the donation list.

Furthermore if you think this is horrifying. Please go watch the documentary Trafficked with Mariana Van Zeller, Black Market Organs. Also eye-opening.

I think a lot of people are very ignorant about what's happening in hospitals these days. The reach they have, the many, many people who look the other way each day at work. The lack of whistle blowers. The people who walk with their heads down in the hallways.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2025 13:11     Subject: Horrifying organ donation article
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The article is INSANE-completely unacceptable level of error, by an order of magnitude. The level of incompetence and f-kry is going to set back donation by a generation.
-a physician


Please donate life. Be an organ donor.


Not when the federal government is applying pressure to these harvesting organizations to increase their numbers of organs donated. Anyone with two brain cells sees that this is a problem. The government is threatening to end contracts to these companies if they don't meet a quota of organs. These companies will be much less likely to behave reasonably.


+1

Also, you can donate without being part of the registry.

I’ve removed myself from my state’s registry. My family can choose to donate if they want, but no ghoulish organizations will know that in advance.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2025 13:09     Subject: Re:Horrifying organ donation article
Similar to the "do not call" list there should be a national registry of individuals who do not wish to be organ donors. Especially so with the NYT article.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2025 13:02     Subject: Horrifying organ donation article
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The article is INSANE-completely unacceptable level of error, by an order of magnitude. The level of incompetence and f-kry is going to set back donation by a generation.
-a physician


Please donate life. Be an organ donor.


Not when the federal government is applying pressure to these harvesting organizations to increase their numbers of organs donated. Anyone with two brain cells sees that this is a problem. The government is threatening to end contracts to these companies if they don't meet a quota of organs. These companies will be much less likely to behave reasonably.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2025 12:59     Subject: Horrifying organ donation article
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is insane and truly terrifying - "H.H.S. said in 2020 that it would begin grading procurement organizations on how many transplants they arranged. The department has threatened to end its contracts with groups performing below average, starting next year."

Thanks to PP for the gift article.

So sad because organ donation is so important and can save so many lives.


This is why the “data driven” thing can really go wrong.


This may be the most important bit of info in the article. This is insane and we know what the outcome will be from this pressure from the government towards these companies. This is reason enough to consider taking your name off a list.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2025 12:56     Subject: Re:Horrifying organ donation article
Anonymous wrote:I opted out in Virginia, but wrote an email to my DH (so that he can refer to it if questioning himself) saying that I support donation and support him in making the call even if I am having reflexive movements. I just want the decision to come from family.


How do you opt out in Virginia? To clarify, do you actually have to go to the DMV in person as a few others here have mentioned?
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2025 12:53     Subject: Horrifying organ donation article
Anonymous wrote:The now right wing NYT published this to scare you. Please don't remove your names from the organ donation list, OR, update to say donate with catastrophic brain death only.

The programs have saved so many, that there are a few bad apples out there does unfortunately seem to be the norm in every profession, but the vast majority are not this.


What bull shite. They did not publish this to scare people. They published this article to inform people and the information is valid and important. Yes, it will cause a decrease in donations but until there is oversight of the organizations that harvest the organs and the hospital's procedures we are foolhardy to trust.

In the current climate with this petty narcissist in control who only wants oversight in to who has hurt his feelings, it is unlikely that reasonable regulation will happen any time soon.

Stop trying to tell us there is nothing to see when there is absolutely lots we need to see.