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Anonymous wrote:What age do you teach your kids how to drink? Is it a good idea? If they are going to college how to tell them when is enough?

Either study myth shattering UK Biobank study or listen to Stanford professor Andrew Huberman's podcast about alcohol consumption and decide for yourself if you want to get your kids learn to consume this toxin or not.

You don't know this yes, but water (H2O) is a "toxin" as well when overconsumed.
Also, unless you are drinking freshly distilled water that was never in plastic or metal containers, then you are consuming water with added toxins.

alcohol is increasingly linked to cancer, don't get your kids into it, pleae!

So is everything else.

Nobody knows what causes it.

It is increasing fast among those under 35 years old, while they are drinking less than previous generations at their age. Sometimes toxins help to prevent diseases.

That's what "medicines" are, various toxins themselves.

soooo... when someone says "alcohol is increasingly linked to cancer" that means, people know it causes cancer.

And not everything causes cancer. But alcohol seems like it does.

You are simply phobic or have a religous crusade against it.

It's a medicine basically, has been used for thousands of years.

Everyone in Europe drank alcohol for over a thousand years from the fall of Rome to modern times, mostly due to it being a safe disinfected drink.

Beer, real ales, are nutritious. Monks drink them during their fasting months.

When the average life span was 38 you didn’t have to worry about cancer. Also when the alternative to drinking alcohol is to drink water contaminated by cholera or dysentery, I would 100 percent support the booze.

But we don’t live in 746 ad. Thankfully.

Also, I’m not a scientist, but I would not be shocked if extremely moderate consumption of very low alcohol real ale has some health values. But we’re talking about middle aged women binge drinking wine, which is what our culture does.

Anonymous wrote:The biggest predicator of future alcohol use disorder is family history and age of first use - much more than trauma or anything else. The most important thing parents can do is model good behavior when it comes to alcohol. The parents drinking wine every night or getting sloshy on weekends - yeah, that kid is going to be primed to have a problem in college. Particularly if they've been letting the kid drink regularly as a teenager with a very undeveloped brain. But the teetotaler parents too need to recognize the prevalence of alcohol in society and prepare their kids accordingly. You don't want your kid's first experience with alcohol to be guzzling a bottle of vodka because they don't know any better.

So parents should educate their kids in context. If there is no history of alcohol abuse in the immediate biological family - parents, uncles, aunts, grandparents - absolutely let a 17 year old have a beer or glass of wine at family events. Just so they're familiar with what alcohol does. And they can contextualize when it is appropriate to drink in society. If non-drinking parents do so for religious or health reasons, I think they should still let their 17 year old have a beer or glass of wine just so they know what it is. Having complete freedom as a freshman coming from a restrictive household often means the kid wants to indulge in everything the day they set foot on campus.

But if there is a history of alcohol abuse in the immediate biological family, you should absolutely discourage your kid from drinking until they are 21 - and preferably 23, when the brain is more fully developed. And educate the kid why drinking at a young age is a terrible idea for someone with their genes. If they can make it to 23 or so, they should be absolutely fine having a glass of wine from time to time even if they have a terrible family history. Genes aren't always destiny. If you can let the brain develop normally before introducing alcohol, they should be ok. But introducing alcohol to a kid with a bad family history is almost always a bad idea.

So it depends on the context of the family.

On the upside, heavy drinking is way down among Gen Z. There is a lot less societal pressure to get trashed on alcohol compared to prior generations. At the better schools, they are pretty healthy and most don't like wasting weekends being hungover. Especially given the legal and widely available alternative of cannabis, which has changed things.

Considering cancer rates are skyrocketing among younger millennials and Gen Z, this makes you wonder huh?

The biggest predicator of future alcohol use disorder is family history and age of first use - much more than trauma or anything else. The most important thing parents can do is model good behavior when it comes to alcohol. The parents drinking wine every night or getting sloshy on weekends - yeah, that kid is going to be primed to have a problem in college. Particularly if they've been letting the kid drink regularly as a teenager with a very undeveloped brain. But the teetotaler parents too need to recognize the prevalence of alcohol in society and prepare their kids accordingly. You don't want your kid's first experience with alcohol to be guzzling a bottle of vodka because they don't know any better.

So parents should educate their kids in context. If there is no history of alcohol abuse in the immediate biological family - parents, uncles, aunts, grandparents - absolutely let a 17 year old have a beer or glass of wine at family events. Just so they're familiar with what alcohol does. And they can contextualize when it is appropriate to drink in society. If non-drinking parents do so for religious or health reasons, I think they should still let their 17 year old have a beer or glass of wine just so they know what it is. Having complete freedom as a freshman coming from a restrictive household often means the kid wants to indulge in everything the day they set foot on campus.

But if there is a history of alcohol abuse in the immediate biological family, you should absolutely discourage your kid from drinking until they are 21 - and preferably 23, when the brain is more fully developed. And educate the kid why drinking at a young age is a terrible idea for someone with their genes. If they can make it to 23 or so, they should be absolutely fine having a glass of wine from time to time even if they have a terrible family history. Genes aren't always destiny. If you can let the brain develop normally before introducing alcohol, they should be ok. But introducing alcohol to a kid with a bad family history is almost always a bad idea.

So it depends on the context of the family.

On the upside, heavy drinking is way down among Gen Z. There is a lot less societal pressure to get trashed on alcohol compared to prior generations. At the better schools, they are pretty healthy and most don't like wasting weekends being hungover. Especially given the legal and widely available alternative of cannabis, which has changed things.

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Anonymous wrote:What age do you teach your kids how to drink? Is it a good idea? If they are going to college how to tell them when is enough?

Either study myth shattering UK Biobank study or listen to Stanford professor Andrew Huberman's podcast about alcohol consumption and decide for yourself if you want to get your kids learn to consume this toxin or not.

You don't know this yes, but water (H2O) is a "toxin" as well when overconsumed.
Also, unless you are drinking freshly distilled water that was never in plastic or metal containers, then you are consuming water with added toxins.

alcohol is increasingly linked to cancer, don't get your kids into it, pleae!

So is everything else.

Nobody knows what causes it.

It is increasing fast among those under 35 years old, while they are drinking less than previous generations at their age. Sometimes toxins help to prevent diseases.

That's what "medicines" are, various toxins themselves.

soooo... when someone says "alcohol is increasingly linked to cancer" that means, people know it causes cancer.

And not everything causes cancer. But alcohol seems like it does.

You are simply phobic or have a religous crusade against it.

It's a medicine basically, has been used for thousands of years.

Everyone in Europe drank alcohol for over a thousand years from the fall of Rome to modern times, mostly due to it being a safe disinfected drink.

Beer, real ales, are nutritious. Monks drink them during their fasting months.

Anonymous wrote:Yes teach them about alcohol , sex and rock and roll.

Be a parent for gods sake not their friend

When they get their first job you want them drinking like a sailor at an office party?

This especially!

Nothing like older rock music. Kids these days love it when they are exposed to it.

My kid is as close to a straight edge as you can find today. We’ve talked about things like:

Don’t drink from any open containers.

Only drink a beer you opened yourself.

Carry Narcan. There is some bad stuff out there.

I don’t expect him to drink much but I’d like him to know what a beer or two feels like at home before he goes to college. But we are playing it by ear.

Anonymous wrote:Yes teach them about alcohol , sex and rock and roll.

Be a parent for gods sake not their friend

When they get their first job you want them drinking like a sailor at an office party?

You should absolutely teach them about all of these things.

Yes teach them about alcohol , sex and rock and roll.

Be a parent for gods sake not their friend

When they get their first job you want them drinking like a sailor at an office party?

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Anonymous wrote:What age do you teach your kids how to drink? Is it a good idea? If they are going to college how to tell them when is enough?

Either study myth shattering UK Biobank study or listen to Stanford professor Andrew Huberman's podcast about alcohol consumption and decide for yourself if you want to get your kids learn to consume this toxin or not.

You don't know this yes, but water (H2O) is a "toxin" as well when overconsumed.
Also, unless you are drinking freshly distilled water that was never in plastic or metal containers, then you are consuming water with added toxins.

alcohol is increasingly linked to cancer, don't get your kids into it, pleae!

So is everything else.

Nobody knows what causes it.

It is increasing fast among those under 35 years old, while they are drinking less than previous generations at their age. Sometimes toxins help to prevent diseases.

That's what "medicines" are, various toxins themselves.

soooo... when someone says "alcohol is increasingly linked to cancer" that means, people know it causes cancer.

And not everything causes cancer. But alcohol seems like it does.

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Anonymous wrote:What age do you teach your kids how to drink? Is it a good idea? If they are going to college how to tell them when is enough?

Either study myth shattering UK Biobank study or listen to Stanford professor Andrew Huberman's podcast about alcohol consumption and decide for yourself if you want to get your kids learn to consume this toxin or not.

You don't know this yes, but water (H2O) is a "toxin" as well when overconsumed.
Also, unless you are drinking freshly distilled water that was never in plastic or metal containers, then you are consuming water with added toxins.

alcohol is increasingly linked to cancer, don't get your kids into it, pleae!

So is everything else.

Nobody knows what causes it.

It is increasing fast among those under 35 years old, while they are drinking less than previous generations at their age. Sometimes toxins help to prevent diseases.

That's what "medicines" are, various toxins themselves.