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Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about huge dogs stuck in tiny apartments with them bored and barking non-stop that's more of an issue in cities OP?

Apartments should ALL be DOG FREE. Period. Let's discuss that.

This is classist af. End of discussion.

Are you dense? No, it's not!

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Anonymous wrote:So many anti dog people frequent the Pet forum. If you don’t like dogs, just keep scrolling.

So many flaws in all of these supposed “solutions”.

I love dogs. They don’t belong in the city. It’s cruel to the dog and annoying and gross to everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about huge dogs stuck in tiny apartments with them bored and barking non-stop that's more of an issue in cities OP?

Apartments should ALL be DOG FREE. Period. Let's discuss that.

This is classist af. End of discussion.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually all large dogs were bred to do a job and they go crazy if they can't do that job.
Some dogs were bred to do nothing all day but be a companion. They are called lap dogs. And that's completely fine! But many people find those dogs wimpy-looking and are trying to force a big dog into a lap dog role.
If you can restructure your life so that your big dog gets to do the job it was bred to do, good for you. The vast majority of owners don't do that.

Not really. Sporting dogs were bred to lie around 90% of the time and then go for a long walk with owner and retrieve some birds. We have a big house and all my golden wants to do is lie with the same 100 square feet 99% of the time, and then go on a hike once a day. He would hate living on a farm and being forced to spend lots of time outdoors.

A Great Dane is arguably a better apartment dog that a small hyper yappy dog.

You know what breed makes surprisingly good apartment dogs, provided they can get out for a good walk? Greyhounds. Laziest mfers...

We used to live in a big building with a lot of dogs and this is really true -- we saw lots of smaller dogs come through who gave their owners a lot of trouble, were noisy and hard to train. But our direct upstairs neighbors the entire time had two large greyhounds and they were silent, not active, took two sedate walks a day, and otherwise slept all day long. I'd take a greyhound as a neighbor over like 90% of other breeds including the ones that get billed as good apartment dogs.

And this is why bans on dogs over a certain number of pounds don’t necessarily have the desired effect. My 79 lb greyhound only wants to walk 3 times a day, doesn’t want really long walks, and doesn’t want to be outside when he’s not walking. He wants to spend his days lounging on a dog bed or sofa, sleeping 90% of the time. He rarely ever barks and doesn’t react to other animals or people beyond a friendly tail wag or a sniff.

I've never understood the weight limit, particularly for things like hotels. Weight is not at all an indicator on whether or not a dog will be a good guest. As a city dweller myself who spent many years in apartments, my anecdotal experience is the small ones tend to be MORE excitable and barky. I'd take my chances living next door to a 80 lb greyhound long before a 20 lb beagle...

it's not a terrible way to gauge how much destruction it can cause and the quaniity of pee and poop it can produce. I saw a mastiff at the dog park the other day and holy hell its pee was like a deluge.

That’s a weird measure since most dogs don’t pee indoors. My friends Jack Russel terror was a holy terror that destroyed everything (not uncommon for the breed) but my big golden doesn’t destroy anything. Aa lot of small terriers are terrible apartment dogs because they are bundles of nervous energy that get anxiety with noises coming for other apartments. A lot of big dogs are very calm and totally unbothered by noises.

yeah, i didn't say it was a good indication of whether they are likely to misbehave, i said it's a good measure of how much shit or piss or damage they could create.

a jack russell certainly is more likely to be a destructive dog, but if a golden is destructive it will be worse than a jack russell and it will create far more urine and poop.

Also, little dogs are easier to crate/contain... a 15lb jack russell is more likely to have the space it needs than a 90 pound malinois or ridgeback. not saying which dog WILL behave better.

Little or not, it’s still cruel and gross to have a dog in an apartment or in a house with no yard. Needing to walk your dog on hot dog pavement and sidewalks each and every time it needs to go to the bathroom is cruel and gross. Imagine all the nasty stuff they have on their paws they bring into your home x3 or x4 times a day.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually all large dogs were bred to do a job and they go crazy if they can't do that job.
Some dogs were bred to do nothing all day but be a companion. They are called lap dogs. And that's completely fine! But many people find those dogs wimpy-looking and are trying to force a big dog into a lap dog role.
If you can restructure your life so that your big dog gets to do the job it was bred to do, good for you. The vast majority of owners don't do that.

Not really. Sporting dogs were bred to lie around 90% of the time and then go for a long walk with owner and retrieve some birds. We have a big house and all my golden wants to do is lie with the same 100 square feet 99% of the time, and then go on a hike once a day. He would hate living on a farm and being forced to spend lots of time outdoors.

A Great Dane is arguably a better apartment dog that a small hyper yappy dog.

You know what breed makes surprisingly good apartment dogs, provided they can get out for a good walk? Greyhounds. Laziest mfers...

We used to live in a big building with a lot of dogs and this is really true -- we saw lots of smaller dogs come through who gave their owners a lot of trouble, were noisy and hard to train. But our direct upstairs neighbors the entire time had two large greyhounds and they were silent, not active, took two sedate walks a day, and otherwise slept all day long. I'd take a greyhound as a neighbor over like 90% of other breeds including the ones that get billed as good apartment dogs.

And this is why bans on dogs over a certain number of pounds don’t necessarily have the desired effect. My 79 lb greyhound only wants to walk 3 times a day, doesn’t want really long walks, and doesn’t want to be outside when he’s not walking. He wants to spend his days lounging on a dog bed or sofa, sleeping 90% of the time. He rarely ever barks and doesn’t react to other animals or people beyond a friendly tail wag or a sniff.

I've never understood the weight limit, particularly for things like hotels. Weight is not at all an indicator on whether or not a dog will be a good guest. As a city dweller myself who spent many years in apartments, my anecdotal experience is the small ones tend to be MORE excitable and barky. I'd take my chances living next door to a 80 lb greyhound long before a 20 lb beagle...

it's not a terrible way to gauge how much destruction it can cause and the quaniity of pee and poop it can produce. I saw a mastiff at the dog park the other day and holy hell its pee was like a deluge.

That’s a weird measure since most dogs don’t pee indoors. My friends Jack Russel terror was a holy terror that destroyed everything (not uncommon for the breed) but my big golden doesn’t destroy anything. Aa lot of small terriers are terrible apartment dogs because they are bundles of nervous energy that get anxiety with noises coming for other apartments. A lot of big dogs are very calm and totally unbothered by noises.

yeah, i didn't say it was a good indication of whether they are likely to misbehave, i said it's a good measure of how much shit or piss or damage they could create.

a jack russell certainly is more likely to be a destructive dog, but if a golden is destructive it will be worse than a jack russell and it will create far more urine and poop.

Also, little dogs are easier to crate/contain... a 15lb jack russell is more likely to have the space it needs than a 90 pound malinois or ridgeback. not saying which dog WILL behave better.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually all large dogs were bred to do a job and they go crazy if they can't do that job.
Some dogs were bred to do nothing all day but be a companion. They are called lap dogs. And that's completely fine! But many people find those dogs wimpy-looking and are trying to force a big dog into a lap dog role.
If you can restructure your life so that your big dog gets to do the job it was bred to do, good for you. The vast majority of owners don't do that.

Not really. Sporting dogs were bred to lie around 90% of the time and then go for a long walk with owner and retrieve some birds. We have a big house and all my golden wants to do is lie with the same 100 square feet 99% of the time, and then go on a hike once a day. He would hate living on a farm and being forced to spend lots of time outdoors.

A Great Dane is arguably a better apartment dog that a small hyper yappy dog.

You know what breed makes surprisingly good apartment dogs, provided they can get out for a good walk? Greyhounds. Laziest mfers...

We used to live in a big building with a lot of dogs and this is really true -- we saw lots of smaller dogs come through who gave their owners a lot of trouble, were noisy and hard to train. But our direct upstairs neighbors the entire time had two large greyhounds and they were silent, not active, took two sedate walks a day, and otherwise slept all day long. I'd take a greyhound as a neighbor over like 90% of other breeds including the ones that get billed as good apartment dogs.

And this is why bans on dogs over a certain number of pounds don’t necessarily have the desired effect. My 79 lb greyhound only wants to walk 3 times a day, doesn’t want really long walks, and doesn’t want to be outside when he’s not walking. He wants to spend his days lounging on a dog bed or sofa, sleeping 90% of the time. He rarely ever barks and doesn’t react to other animals or people beyond a friendly tail wag or a sniff.

I've never understood the weight limit, particularly for things like hotels. Weight is not at all an indicator on whether or not a dog will be a good guest. As a city dweller myself who spent many years in apartments, my anecdotal experience is the small ones tend to be MORE excitable and barky. I'd take my chances living next door to a 80 lb greyhound long before a 20 lb beagle...

it's not a terrible way to gauge how much destruction it can cause and the quaniity of pee and poop it can produce. I saw a mastiff at the dog park the other day and holy hell its pee was like a deluge.

That’s a weird measure since most dogs don’t pee indoors. My friends Jack Russel terror was a holy terror that destroyed everything (not uncommon for the breed) but my big golden doesn’t destroy anything. Aa lot of small terriers are terrible apartment dogs because they are bundles of nervous energy that get anxiety with noises coming for other apartments. A lot of big dogs are very calm and totally unbothered by noises.

yeah, i didn't say it was a good indication of whether they are likely to misbehave, i said it's a good measure of how much shit or piss or damage they could create.

a jack russell certainly is more likely to be a destructive dog, but if a golden is destructive it will be worse than a jack russell and it will create far more urine and poop.

Also, little dogs are easier to crate/contain... a 15lb jack russell is more likely to have the space it needs than a 90 pound malinois or ridgeback. not saying which dog WILL behave better.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually all large dogs were bred to do a job and they go crazy if they can't do that job.
Some dogs were bred to do nothing all day but be a companion. They are called lap dogs. And that's completely fine! But many people find those dogs wimpy-looking and are trying to force a big dog into a lap dog role.
If you can restructure your life so that your big dog gets to do the job it was bred to do, good for you. The vast majority of owners don't do that.

Not really. Sporting dogs were bred to lie around 90% of the time and then go for a long walk with owner and retrieve some birds. We have a big house and all my golden wants to do is lie with the same 100 square feet 99% of the time, and then go on a hike once a day. He would hate living on a farm and being forced to spend lots of time outdoors.

A Great Dane is arguably a better apartment dog that a small hyper yappy dog.

You know what breed makes surprisingly good apartment dogs, provided they can get out for a good walk? Greyhounds. Laziest mfers...

We used to live in a big building with a lot of dogs and this is really true -- we saw lots of smaller dogs come through who gave their owners a lot of trouble, were noisy and hard to train. But our direct upstairs neighbors the entire time had two large greyhounds and they were silent, not active, took two sedate walks a day, and otherwise slept all day long. I'd take a greyhound as a neighbor over like 90% of other breeds including the ones that get billed as good apartment dogs.

And this is why bans on dogs over a certain number of pounds don’t necessarily have the desired effect. My 79 lb greyhound only wants to walk 3 times a day, doesn’t want really long walks, and doesn’t want to be outside when he’s not walking. He wants to spend his days lounging on a dog bed or sofa, sleeping 90% of the time. He rarely ever barks and doesn’t react to other animals or people beyond a friendly tail wag or a sniff.

I've never understood the weight limit, particularly for things like hotels. Weight is not at all an indicator on whether or not a dog will be a good guest. As a city dweller myself who spent many years in apartments, my anecdotal experience is the small ones tend to be MORE excitable and barky. I'd take my chances living next door to a 80 lb greyhound long before a 20 lb beagle...

it's not a terrible way to gauge how much destruction it can cause and the quaniity of pee and poop it can produce. I saw a mastiff at the dog park the other day and holy hell its pee was like a deluge.

Bigger dogs do produce more pee and poop, but they also have bigger bladders and often can hold their urine longer. I’m the greyhound owner and my dog can go many hours without peeing, while tiny Italian greyhounds are notoriously difficult to housebreak.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually all large dogs were bred to do a job and they go crazy if they can't do that job.
Some dogs were bred to do nothing all day but be a companion. They are called lap dogs. And that's completely fine! But many people find those dogs wimpy-looking and are trying to force a big dog into a lap dog role.
If you can restructure your life so that your big dog gets to do the job it was bred to do, good for you. The vast majority of owners don't do that.

Not really. Sporting dogs were bred to lie around 90% of the time and then go for a long walk with owner and retrieve some birds. We have a big house and all my golden wants to do is lie with the same 100 square feet 99% of the time, and then go on a hike once a day. He would hate living on a farm and being forced to spend lots of time outdoors.

A Great Dane is arguably a better apartment dog that a small hyper yappy dog.

You know what breed makes surprisingly good apartment dogs, provided they can get out for a good walk? Greyhounds. Laziest mfers...

We used to live in a big building with a lot of dogs and this is really true -- we saw lots of smaller dogs come through who gave their owners a lot of trouble, were noisy and hard to train. But our direct upstairs neighbors the entire time had two large greyhounds and they were silent, not active, took two sedate walks a day, and otherwise slept all day long. I'd take a greyhound as a neighbor over like 90% of other breeds including the ones that get billed as good apartment dogs.

And this is why bans on dogs over a certain number of pounds don’t necessarily have the desired effect. My 79 lb greyhound only wants to walk 3 times a day, doesn’t want really long walks, and doesn’t want to be outside when he’s not walking. He wants to spend his days lounging on a dog bed or sofa, sleeping 90% of the time. He rarely ever barks and doesn’t react to other animals or people beyond a friendly tail wag or a sniff.

I've never understood the weight limit, particularly for things like hotels. Weight is not at all an indicator on whether or not a dog will be a good guest. As a city dweller myself who spent many years in apartments, my anecdotal experience is the small ones tend to be MORE excitable and barky. I'd take my chances living next door to a 80 lb greyhound long before a 20 lb beagle...

it's not a terrible way to gauge how much destruction it can cause and the quaniity of pee and poop it can produce. I saw a mastiff at the dog park the other day and holy hell its pee was like a deluge.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually all large dogs were bred to do a job and they go crazy if they can't do that job.
Some dogs were bred to do nothing all day but be a companion. They are called lap dogs. And that's completely fine! But many people find those dogs wimpy-looking and are trying to force a big dog into a lap dog role.
If you can restructure your life so that your big dog gets to do the job it was bred to do, good for you. The vast majority of owners don't do that.

Not really. Sporting dogs were bred to lie around 90% of the time and then go for a long walk with owner and retrieve some birds. We have a big house and all my golden wants to do is lie with the same 100 square feet 99% of the time, and then go on a hike once a day. He would hate living on a farm and being forced to spend lots of time outdoors.

A Great Dane is arguably a better apartment dog that a small hyper yappy dog.

You know what breed makes surprisingly good apartment dogs, provided they can get out for a good walk? Greyhounds. Laziest mfers...

We used to live in a big building with a lot of dogs and this is really true -- we saw lots of smaller dogs come through who gave their owners a lot of trouble, were noisy and hard to train. But our direct upstairs neighbors the entire time had two large greyhounds and they were silent, not active, took two sedate walks a day, and otherwise slept all day long. I'd take a greyhound as a neighbor over like 90% of other breeds including the ones that get billed as good apartment dogs.

And this is why bans on dogs over a certain number of pounds don’t necessarily have the desired effect. My 79 lb greyhound only wants to walk 3 times a day, doesn’t want really long walks, and doesn’t want to be outside when he’s not walking. He wants to spend his days lounging on a dog bed or sofa, sleeping 90% of the time. He rarely ever barks and doesn’t react to other animals or people beyond a friendly tail wag or a sniff.

I've never understood the weight limit, particularly for things like hotels. Weight is not at all an indicator on whether or not a dog will be a good guest. As a city dweller myself who spent many years in apartments, my anecdotal experience is the small ones tend to be MORE excitable and barky. I'd take my chances living next door to a 80 lb greyhound long before a 20 lb beagle...

it's not a terrible way to gauge how much destruction it can cause and the quaniity of pee and poop it can produce. I saw a mastiff at the dog park the other day and holy hell its pee was like a deluge.

That’s a weird measure since most dogs don’t pee indoors. My friends Jack Russel terror was a holy terror that destroyed everything (not uncommon for the breed) but my big golden doesn’t destroy anything. Aa lot of small terriers are terrible apartment dogs because they are bundles of nervous energy that get anxiety with noises coming for other apartments. A lot of big dogs are very calm and totally unbothered by noises.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually all large dogs were bred to do a job and they go crazy if they can't do that job.
Some dogs were bred to do nothing all day but be a companion. They are called lap dogs. And that's completely fine! But many people find those dogs wimpy-looking and are trying to force a big dog into a lap dog role.
If you can restructure your life so that your big dog gets to do the job it was bred to do, good for you. The vast majority of owners don't do that.

Not really. Sporting dogs were bred to lie around 90% of the time and then go for a long walk with owner and retrieve some birds. We have a big house and all my golden wants to do is lie with the same 100 square feet 99% of the time, and then go on a hike once a day. He would hate living on a farm and being forced to spend lots of time outdoors.

A Great Dane is arguably a better apartment dog that a small hyper yappy dog.

You know what breed makes surprisingly good apartment dogs, provided they can get out for a good walk? Greyhounds. Laziest mfers...

We used to live in a big building with a lot of dogs and this is really true -- we saw lots of smaller dogs come through who gave their owners a lot of trouble, were noisy and hard to train. But our direct upstairs neighbors the entire time had two large greyhounds and they were silent, not active, took two sedate walks a day, and otherwise slept all day long. I'd take a greyhound as a neighbor over like 90% of other breeds including the ones that get billed as good apartment dogs.

And this is why bans on dogs over a certain number of pounds don’t necessarily have the desired effect. My 79 lb greyhound only wants to walk 3 times a day, doesn’t want really long walks, and doesn’t want to be outside when he’s not walking. He wants to spend his days lounging on a dog bed or sofa, sleeping 90% of the time. He rarely ever barks and doesn’t react to other animals or people beyond a friendly tail wag or a sniff.

I've never understood the weight limit, particularly for things like hotels. Weight is not at all an indicator on whether or not a dog will be a good guest. As a city dweller myself who spent many years in apartments, my anecdotal experience is the small ones tend to be MORE excitable and barky. I'd take my chances living next door to a 80 lb greyhound long before a 20 lb beagle...

it's not a terrible way to gauge how much destruction it can cause and the quaniity of pee and poop it can produce. I saw a mastiff at the dog park the other day and holy hell its pee was like a deluge.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually all large dogs were bred to do a job and they go crazy if they can't do that job.
Some dogs were bred to do nothing all day but be a companion. They are called lap dogs. And that's completely fine! But many people find those dogs wimpy-looking and are trying to force a big dog into a lap dog role.
If you can restructure your life so that your big dog gets to do the job it was bred to do, good for you. The vast majority of owners don't do that.

Not really. Sporting dogs were bred to lie around 90% of the time and then go for a long walk with owner and retrieve some birds. We have a big house and all my golden wants to do is lie with the same 100 square feet 99% of the time, and then go on a hike once a day. He would hate living on a farm and being forced to spend lots of time outdoors.

A Great Dane is arguably a better apartment dog that a small hyper yappy dog.

You know what breed makes surprisingly good apartment dogs, provided they can get out for a good walk? Greyhounds. Laziest mfers...

We used to live in a big building with a lot of dogs and this is really true -- we saw lots of smaller dogs come through who gave their owners a lot of trouble, were noisy and hard to train. But our direct upstairs neighbors the entire time had two large greyhounds and they were silent, not active, took two sedate walks a day, and otherwise slept all day long. I'd take a greyhound as a neighbor over like 90% of other breeds including the ones that get billed as good apartment dogs.

And this is why bans on dogs over a certain number of pounds don’t necessarily have the desired effect. My 79 lb greyhound only wants to walk 3 times a day, doesn’t want really long walks, and doesn’t want to be outside when he’s not walking. He wants to spend his days lounging on a dog bed or sofa, sleeping 90% of the time. He rarely ever barks and doesn’t react to other animals or people beyond a friendly tail wag or a sniff.

I've never understood the weight limit, particularly for things like hotels. Weight is not at all an indicator on whether or not a dog will be a good guest. As a city dweller myself who spent many years in apartments, my anecdotal experience is the small ones tend to be MORE excitable and barky. I'd take my chances living next door to a 80 lb greyhound long before a 20 lb beagle...