Anonymous
07/09/2025 08:48
Subject: Re:What schools are T-10?
Anonymous wrote:Ranking of universities by DCUM = ranking of exclusivity. It's the size of the club that matters
Yep, and this is why this forum is mostly useless. People who argue about top schools based on their ED practices seem to have not set foot on a college campus since they graduated, since they have nothing related to actual academics to go on.
Anonymous
07/09/2025 08:40
Subject: Re:What schools are T-10?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is also a stretch to call Cal Tech a national university; it has 2400 students, including grad students, and in that sense has more in common with Harvey Mudd than any of the schools on the list (Harvey Mudd being yet another top 20 or top 25 candidate).
+1000
It's not a stretch at all to call Caltech (it's not Cal Tech) a university. The distinction is based on research and graduate programs, not the number of students.
We are talking about undergrad education here. Caltech has 1000 undergrads. Let me repeat: one thousand. That’s 1/2 the size of most SLACs. These distinctions are silly.
Caltech belongs in the top 10. So does Williams. So does Duke.
That’s 8.
Penn does not belong (any time you need a Wharton asterisk to justify it, the school is not top 10).
Then we have Brown and Dartmouth and Amherst and Pomona. Give the nod to Amherst here.
That’s 9.
The last is tough because Pomona is so on the rise. But give it to Brown for another 5 years.
HYPSM
CalTech Duke
Williams Amherst
Brown
Done!
Solid.
None have ED2. 👍
Anonymous
07/09/2025 08:40
Subject: What schools are T-10?
Anyone who doesn’t know about Williams and their superlative undergraduate program doesn’t deserve to have an opinion on this. The Ivies have tried to emulate the LAC model directly from Amherst and Williams. None of them offer winter study and individualized tutorials. Williams is arguably a stronger education than at least HYS (Princeton is the only comparable Ivy academically)
Anonymous
07/09/2025 08:36
Subject: Re:What schools are T-10?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is also a stretch to call Cal Tech a national university; it has 2400 students, including grad students, and in that sense has more in common with Harvey Mudd than any of the schools on the list (Harvey Mudd being yet another top 20 or top 25 candidate).
+1000
It's not a stretch at all to call Caltech (it's not Cal Tech) a university. The distinction is based on research and graduate programs, not the number of students.
We are talking about undergrad education here. Caltech has 1000 undergrads. Let me repeat: one thousand. That’s 1/2 the size of most SLACs. These distinctions are silly.
Caltech belongs in the top 10. So does Williams. So does Duke.
That’s 8.
Penn does not belong (any time you need a Wharton asterisk to justify it, the school is not top 10).
Then we have Brown and Dartmouth and Amherst and Pomona. Give the nod to Amherst here.
That’s 9.
The last is tough because Pomona is so on the rise. But give it to Brown for another 5 years.
HYPSM
CalTech Duke
Williams Amherst
Brown
Done!
Brown/Duke ? Lol
Williams ? lol lol
Amherst? lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
Anonymous
07/09/2025 08:33
Subject: Re:What schools are T-10?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is also a stretch to call Cal Tech a national university; it has 2400 students, including grad students, and in that sense has more in common with Harvey Mudd than any of the schools on the list (Harvey Mudd being yet another top 20 or top 25 candidate).
+1000
It's not a stretch at all to call Caltech (it's not Cal Tech) a university. The distinction is based on research and graduate programs, not the number of students.
We are talking about undergrad education here. Caltech has 1000 undergrads. Let me repeat: one thousand. That’s 1/2 the size of most SLACs. These distinctions are silly.
Caltech belongs in the top 10. So does Williams. So does Duke.
That’s 8.
Penn does not belong (any time you need a Wharton asterisk to justify it, the school is not top 10).
Then we have Brown and Dartmouth and Amherst and Pomona. Give the nod to Amherst here.
That’s 9.
The last is tough because Pomona is so on the rise. But give it to Brown for another 5 years.
HYPSM
CalTech Duke
Williams Amherst
Brown
Done!
Solid.
Anonymous
07/09/2025 08:26
Subject: What schools are T-10?
T-10 is the 10 schools where your kid can get in and be happy. It’s an individual thing.
Anonymous
07/09/2025 08:22
Subject: Re:What schools are T-10?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is also a stretch to call Cal Tech a national university; it has 2400 students, including grad students, and in that sense has more in common with Harvey Mudd than any of the schools on the list (Harvey Mudd being yet another top 20 or top 25 candidate).
+1000
It's not a stretch at all to call Caltech (it's not Cal Tech) a university. The distinction is based on research and graduate programs, not the number of students.
We are talking about undergrad education here. Caltech has 1000 undergrads. Let me repeat: one thousand. That’s 1/2 the size of most SLACs. These distinctions are silly.
Caltech belongs in the top 10. So does Williams. So does Duke.
That’s 8.
Penn does not belong (any time you need a Wharton asterisk to justify it, the school is not top 10).
Then we have Brown and Dartmouth and Amherst and Pomona. Give the nod to Amherst here.
That’s 9.
The last is tough because Pomona is so on the rise. But give it to Brown for another 5 years.
HYPSM
CalTech Duke
Williams Amherst
Brown
Done!
Anonymous
07/08/2025 23:45
Subject: Re:What schools are T-10?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is also a stretch to call Cal Tech a national university; it has 2400 students, including grad students, and in that sense has more in common with Harvey Mudd than any of the schools on the list (Harvey Mudd being yet another top 20 or top 25 candidate).
+1000
It's not a stretch at all to call Caltech (it's not Cal Tech) a university. The distinction is based on research and graduate programs, not the number of students.
Anonymous
07/08/2025 22:02
Subject: What schools are T-10?
Angry? I was agreeing with a reasonable post and making a reasonable suggestion. Have you read the previous posts with LAC people arguing? Excluding them is a reasonable suggestion.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Reasonable suggestion. Now if we can just keep the LAC lunatics from piping up about high school sized colleges that nobody has ever heard or wants to attend.Anonymous wrote:Everyone agrees on HYPSM. Most agree on Caltech. People disagree on the rest.
Why are you so angry?
Anonymous
07/08/2025 21:44
Subject: What schools are T-10?
Anonymous wrote:Everyone agrees on HYPSM. Most agree on Caltech. People disagree on the rest.
This
Anonymous
07/08/2025 21:14
Subject: What schools are T-10?
Anonymous wrote:Reasonable suggestion. Now if we can just keep the LAC lunatics from piping up about high school sized colleges that nobody has ever heard or wants to attend.Anonymous wrote:Everyone agrees on HYPSM. Most agree on Caltech. People disagree on the rest.
Why are you so angry?
Anonymous
07/08/2025 21:11
Subject: What schools are T-10?
Reasonable suggestion. Now if we can just keep the LAC lunatics from piping up about high school sized colleges that nobody has ever heard or wants to attend.Anonymous wrote:Everyone agrees on HYPSM. Most agree on Caltech. People disagree on the rest.
Anonymous
07/08/2025 21:09
Subject: What schools are T-10?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How it it possible that so many people stumble upon the internet, find this website, and post some version of this question daily?
Exactly. Is there any way to stop daily posts concerning fairy tale top10 list?
Completely agree with your frustration, but there is also no law requiring you to read and/or respond to them. However, I have seen much more worthwhile threads than this get shut down by the mods so not sure why they don't lock these as well.
Anonymous
07/08/2025 20:58
Subject: What schools are T-10?
Everyone agrees on HYPSM. Most agree on Caltech. People disagree on the rest.
Anonymous
07/08/2025 20:56
Subject: What schools are T-10?
Anonymous wrote:How it it possible that so many people stumble upon the internet, find this website, and post some version of this question daily?
Exactly. Is there any way to stop daily posts concerning fairy tale top10 list?