Anonymous
07/05/2025 15:06
Subject: Re:Elderly parent is on Medicaid in nursing home, will they lose financing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My spouse is an executive VP in the LTC business. They are not panicking yet. But everyone acknowledges that
Funding may be lost. If that happens your relative will be evicted if that is their payor source. And if the home shuts down, there won’t be any chance of them being forced to keep people who don’t/can’t pay. Thing is that this is an evolving situation and no one knows what will be affected. But the places that will be hit the hardest are those with insufficient private pay to cover the losses.
So in other words, the less expensive places in rural areas and elsewhere that do not depend on private pay will close. The tony places in DC that charge $20k a month and serve the elite will remain open.
The rural idiots voted for this, while the tony placed in DC voted against. Go figure. Elections have consequences
Anonymous
07/05/2025 14:29
Subject: Elderly parent is on Medicaid in nursing home, will they lose financing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Im not sure I understand your question? If she’s there, and Medicaid is paying, what makes you think they’d stop? Your relative, at their age, also has Medicare
Medicare doesn’t pay for nursing homes.
So how do people pay for nursing homes? It's very expensive
By planning for the possibility of such expenses late in life, and saving and investing accordingly instead of spending as if the possibility didn't exist.
Even if you have 1-2 million and two people, that can easily be gone in 5-10 years, and some people are in it for longer.
Anonymous
07/05/2025 14:27
Subject: Elderly parent is on Medicaid in nursing home, will they lose financing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stay tuned. Overspending by the GOP will trigger automatic cuts in Medicare.
Government has been overspending for over a century.
Government will continue to overspend until it all crashes. Fiat currency be like it be.
Government hasn’t been overspending. It has been under taxing the rich.
The top 1% of earners paid 46% of federal income taxes in 2021, despite earning 15% of total income, according to the National Taxpayers Union.
The top 10% paid 75%, while the bottom 50% paid 2%.
The Joint Committee on Taxation confirms millionaires pay an average effective tax rate 3.5 times higher than most Americans.
What about billionaires with their fancy ways of extracting funds from their investments? It's not income so it's not taxed. They need to pay.
If they earned it, why should they transfer their wealth to you? Just because you'd like more money and they happen to have it? Do you support robbing banks, too? After all, that's also where the money is.
Earn your own money.
That’s right. Let them eat cake. Who cares if they were born into poverty with no access to a quality education and no resources to succeed in life.
Empathy and helping your fellow compatriots is for losers. We want a country where the rich have billions and the poor keep getting poorer. It ensures more inequality, more resentment, more injustice, more crime.
Income inequality breeds crime. Just look at the countries with the highest income inequality. They are also the countries with the highest crime rates. Brazil, South Africa, Mexico, etc…
Anonymous
07/05/2025 14:24
Subject: Elderly parent is on Medicaid in nursing home, will they lose financing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Im not sure I understand your question? If she’s there, and Medicaid is paying, what makes you think they’d stop? Your relative, at their age, also has Medicare
Medicare doesn’t pay for nursing homes.
So how do people pay for nursing homes? It's very expensive
The overwhelming majority pay with Medicaid.
Are you a US adult and just discovering this?!
Anonymous
07/05/2025 14:19
Subject: Elderly parent is on Medicaid in nursing home, will they lose financing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I predict a lot more euthanasia.
YOU do not get to make the decision about when and how you die. THEY make that decision for you. It’s the ultimate expression of freedom, really.
/s
In theory yes. I’ve had two family members die in hospice and my experience is that it’s a hair breadth away from euthanasia. Basically the ER doctors will suggest a discharge to hospice rather than any sort of aggresssjvr care. Hospice will then take them off all the medications that keep them gojng. Hospice will then recommend the HAM sandwich — haldol, morphine and Ativan — to keep the patient calm. They will gtadually increase the dosage on that. What elderly person is going to survive that combination? I’m not complaining, I’m just saying that there is more room for euthanasia than most people think.
I agree. It's the most humane thing in most cases, but I don't think most people know what really happens at end of life for the elderly.
Those of us who do, support it, but it wasn't offered to us for my MIL.
Anonymous
07/05/2025 14:18
Subject: Elderly parent is on Medicaid in nursing home, will they lose financing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I predict a lot more euthanasia.
YOU do not get to make the decision about when and how you die. THEY make that decision for you. It’s the ultimate expression of freedom, really.
/s
In theory yes. I’ve had two family members die in hospice and my experience is that it’s a hair breadth away from euthanasia. Basically the ER doctors will suggest a discharge to hospice rather than any sort of aggresssjvr care. Hospice will then take them off all the medications that keep them gojng. Hospice will then recommend the HAM sandwich — haldol, morphine and Ativan — to keep the patient calm. They will gtadually increase the dosage on that. What elderly person is going to survive that combination? I’m not complaining, I’m just saying that there is more room for euthanasia than most people think.
This is a little off-topic, but yes, this is basically what happens and not only to the elderly. My 40-year-old sister was dying of cancer and when he just couldn't stand it anymore, her live-in boyfriend called the hospice nurse one morning to administer the "emergency pack," which is exactly what the PP described above. My parents were planning to come to see her the next day, but hospice and boyfriend made the decision to end her life without any other family members. Fortunately, I arrived to be with her for her last breath while the boyfriend was vaccuuming the apartment and hospice nurse had gone home.
That's NOT typical for an ethical hospice agency. My MIL suffered at the end for two weeks and we begged her to let go. Hospice usually leaved the drugs and they don't administer drugs and the family may have done that.
Anonymous
07/05/2025 14:17
Subject: Elderly parent is on Medicaid in nursing home, will they lose financing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stay tuned. Overspending by the GOP will trigger automatic cuts in Medicare.
Government has been overspending for over a century.
Government will continue to overspend until it all crashes. Fiat currency be like it be.
Government hasn’t been overspending. It has been under taxing the rich.
The top 1% of earners paid 46% of federal income taxes in 2021, despite earning 15% of total income, according to the National Taxpayers Union.
The top 10% paid 75%, while the bottom 50% paid 2%.
The Joint Committee on Taxation confirms millionaires pay an average effective tax rate 3.5 times higher than most Americans.
What about billionaires with their fancy ways of extracting funds from their investments? It's not income so it's not taxed. They need to pay.
If they earned it, why should they transfer their wealth to you? Just because you'd like more money and they happen to have it? Do you support robbing banks, too? After all, that's also where the money is.
Earn your own money.
Anonymous
07/05/2025 13:02
Subject: Elderly parent is on Medicaid in nursing home, will they lose financing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stay tuned. Overspending by the GOP will trigger automatic cuts in Medicare.
Government has been overspending for over a century.
Government will continue to overspend until it all crashes. Fiat currency be like it be.
Government hasn’t been overspending. It has been under taxing the rich.
The top 1% of earners paid 46% of federal income taxes in 2021, despite earning 15% of total income, according to the National Taxpayers Union.
The top 10% paid 75%, while the bottom 50% paid 2%.
The Joint Committee on Taxation confirms millionaires pay an average effective tax rate 3.5 times higher than most Americans.
What about billionaires with their fancy ways of extracting funds from their investments? It's not income so it's not taxed. They need to pay.
Anonymous
07/05/2025 13:00
Subject: Elderly parent is on Medicaid in nursing home, will they lose financing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I predict a lot more euthanasia.
YOU do not get to make the decision about when and how you die. THEY make that decision for you. It’s the ultimate expression of freedom, really.
/s
In theory yes. I’ve had two family members die in hospice and my experience is that it’s a hair breadth away from euthanasia. Basically the ER doctors will suggest a discharge to hospice rather than any sort of aggresssjvr care. Hospice will then take them off all the medications that keep them gojng. Hospice will then recommend the HAM sandwich — haldol, morphine and Ativan — to keep the patient calm. They will gtadually increase the dosage on that. What elderly person is going to survive that combination? I’m not complaining, I’m just saying that there is more room for euthanasia than most people think.
I agree. It's the most humane thing in most cases, but I don't think most people know what really happens at end of life for the elderly.
Anonymous
07/05/2025 12:47
Subject: Elderly parent is on Medicaid in nursing home, will they lose financing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Im not sure I understand your question? If she’s there, and Medicaid is paying, what makes you think they’d stop? Your relative, at their age, also has Medicare
Medicare doesn’t pay for nursing homes.
So how do people pay for nursing homes? It's very expensive
By planning for the possibility of such expenses late in life, and saving and investing accordingly instead of spending as if the possibility didn't exist.
Anonymous
07/05/2025 12:44
Subject: Elderly parent is on Medicaid in nursing home, will they lose financing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stay tuned. Overspending by the GOP will trigger automatic cuts in Medicare.
Government has been overspending for over a century.
Government will continue to overspend until it all crashes. Fiat currency be like it be.
Government hasn’t been overspending. It has been under taxing the rich.
Because that's and endless fountain of money for anything and everything - just keep raising taxes, and we can have everything! No need for fiscal discipline, or to make choices, just take it from those who earned it. That'll work out well over the long run.
Well the really rich got their tax cut. The rest of us, not so much. Why carry water for a billionaire who could give a rat's @ss about you? Same color != same wallet.
Equally, why should someone who earned money transfer it to you through taxes? Pay your own way.
Anonymous
07/05/2025 09:17
Subject: Elderly parent is on Medicaid in nursing home, will they lose financing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stay tuned. Overspending by the GOP will trigger automatic cuts in Medicare.
Government has been overspending for over a century.
Government will continue to overspend until it all crashes. Fiat currency be like it be.
Government hasn’t been overspending. It has been under taxing the rich.
yeah, oh, look, it’s the usual DCUM fallback. do you have any understanding of basic economics?
https://www.pgpf.org/article/taxing-the-rich-could-raise-trillions-but-that-alone-wont-fix-our-fiscal-crisis/
please remember all those loopholes in the tax code exist for a reason. why aren’t you demanding reform from your congressional reps?
Anonymous
07/05/2025 09:17
Subject: Elderly parent is on Medicaid in nursing home, will they lose financing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I predict a lot more euthanasia.
YOU do not get to make the decision about when and how you die. THEY make that decision for you. It’s the ultimate expression of freedom, really.
/s
In theory yes. I’ve had two family members die in hospice and my experience is that it’s a hair breadth away from euthanasia. Basically the ER doctors will suggest a discharge to hospice rather than any sort of aggresssjvr care. Hospice will then take them off all the medications that keep them gojng. Hospice will then recommend the HAM sandwich — haldol, morphine and Ativan — to keep the patient calm. They will gtadually increase the dosage on that. What elderly person is going to survive that combination? I’m not complaining, I’m just saying that there is more room for euthanasia than most people think.
This is a little off-topic, but yes, this is basically what happens and not only to the elderly. My 40-year-old sister was dying of cancer and when he just couldn't stand it anymore, her live-in boyfriend called the hospice nurse one morning to administer the "emergency pack," which is exactly what the PP described above. My parents were planning to come to see her the next day, but hospice and boyfriend made the decision to end her life without any other family members. Fortunately, I arrived to be with her for her last breath while the boyfriend was vaccuuming the apartment and hospice nurse had gone home.
Anonymous
07/05/2025 09:06
Subject: Elderly parent is on Medicaid in nursing home, will they lose financing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stay tuned. Overspending by the GOP will trigger automatic cuts in Medicare.
Government has been overspending for over a century.
Government will continue to overspend until it all crashes. Fiat currency be like it be.
Government hasn’t been overspending. It has been under taxing the rich.
Because that's and endless fountain of money for anything and everything - just keep raising taxes, and we can have everything! No need for fiscal discipline, or to make choices, just take it from those who earned it. That'll work out well over the long run.
Well the really rich got their tax cut. The rest of us, not so much. Why carry water for a billionaire who could give a rat's @ss about you? Same color != same wallet.
Anonymous
07/05/2025 08:59
Subject: Elderly parent is on Medicaid in nursing home, will they lose financing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stay tuned. Overspending by the GOP will trigger automatic cuts in Medicare.
Government has been overspending for over a century.
Government will continue to overspend until it all crashes. Fiat currency be like it be.
Government hasn’t been overspending. It has been under taxing the rich.
The top 1% of earners paid 46% of federal income taxes in 2021, despite earning 15% of total income, according to the National Taxpayers Union.
The top 10% paid 75%, while the bottom 50% paid 2%.
The Joint Committee on Taxation confirms millionaires pay an average effective tax rate 3.5 times higher than most Americans.