Anonymous
07/03/2025 14:07
Subject: How will the “big bill” affect you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Consider that the cuts to Medicaid will lead to increased healthcare costs and/or lack of healthcare facilities for everyone. Do you want to live in a country with a class of people who don’t get healthcare? It’s disgusting.
Reverting to a work requirement of 20 hours per week for healthy non pregnamt adults is not an unreasonable burden.
Except the vast majority on Medicaid programs are kids, elderly and disabled---people who cannot work.
Also, where are these 20 hour a week jobs? They aren't in every state. I know people who have been looking for months and not found something.
Also the requirement to constantly reapply will bog everything down is massive papework.
It will be a crapshow of amazing proportions.
My kid just got a 20-hour a week job yesterday as a cashier. He applied to three places, interviewed at two, and got a job - all within biking distance of our house- with zero work experience and with a 16 year old male’s executive function capabilities.
I’m not saying that all the people who need to meet these requirements will have the same experience but it’s not an impossible thing.
I agree that the requirement to constantly reapply will be a crapshow of amazing proportions.
Most non child, non elderly people on medicaid DO ACTUALLY HAVE JOBS
https://www.kff.org/medicaid/issue-brief/understanding-the-intersection-of-medicaid-and-work-an-update/
+1000 guys most people who aren’t children and aren’t elderly and are on Medicaid already have jobs. That is what the data says!
Please know all of this is to make you continue on with the narrative that people are somehow abusing this system (when the data doesn’t support that) so we need to make it harder on them when really, it just makes it harder on them (when they were already working in the first place) so they lose coverage which then makes them less healthy and guess what everyone - WE ALL PAY. Which by the way, isn’t the most important part but if that is what you care about I will say it again, we all end up paying way more for then just actually making sure people can access some basic dang healthcare while getting paid minimum wage and not making them jump through 1500 hoops every 3 months to do it.
Ideally you would also care that the person not lose their healthcare not just because you might ultimately pay for it but because it means others suffer. Children, humans, your neighbors. People who serve you, clean you cars, wipe down your tables and clean the bits of foods your kids drop after you eat at restaurants, wash your dishes at those restaurants. Check you out at CVS. Then go home and make their kid dinner. They are people just like you.
+100 there is absolutely fraud in the medicare/medicaid systems but from what I've seen that fraud is happening on the provider side, not individuals getting benefits they shouldn't get. What's needed is funding to investigate that type of fraud but the GOP is currently anti investigating wrongdoing by businesses aka donors.
Anonymous
07/03/2025 14:03
Subject: How will the “big bill” affect you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thrilled the baby bonds made it through. Surprised it isn’t getting any press. This is a hugely progressive policy that previously even Cory Booker was called too liberal by Dems for proposing back in 2018 or so.
Thrilled for $1000? If that's a lifechanger read the rest of the bill you will get hosed.
If left in stocks it keeps doubling every 7 years and life expectancies rising in 100 years that will be a massive amount to live to heirs. Around 6 million.
Anonymous
07/03/2025 14:01
Subject: How will the “big bill” affect you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Consider that the cuts to Medicaid will lead to increased healthcare costs and/or lack of healthcare facilities for everyone. Do you want to live in a country with a class of people who don’t get healthcare? It’s disgusting.
Reverting to a work requirement of 20 hours per week for healthy non pregnamt adults is not an unreasonable burden.
Except the vast majority on Medicaid programs are kids, elderly and disabled---people who cannot work.
Also, where are these 20 hour a week jobs? They aren't in every state. I know people who have been looking for months and not found something.
Also the requirement to constantly reapply will bog everything down is massive papework.
It will be a crapshow of amazing proportions.
My kid just got a 20-hour a week job yesterday as a cashier. He applied to three places, interviewed at two, and got a job - all within biking distance of our house- with zero work experience and with a 16 year old male’s executive function capabilities.
I’m not saying that all the people who need to meet these requirements will have the same experience but it’s not an impossible thing.
I agree that the requirement to constantly reapply will be a crapshow of amazing proportions.
Most non child, non elderly people on medicaid DO ACTUALLY HAVE JOBS
https://www.kff.org/medicaid/issue-brief/understanding-the-intersection-of-medicaid-and-work-an-update/
+1000 guys most people who aren’t children and aren’t elderly and are on Medicaid already have jobs. That is what the data says!
Please know all of this is to make you continue on with the narrative that people are somehow abusing this system (when the data doesn’t support that) so we need to make it harder on them when really, it just makes it harder on them (when they were already working in the first place) so they lose coverage which then makes them less healthy and guess what everyone - WE ALL PAY. Which by the way, isn’t the most important part but if that is what you care about I will say it again, we all end up paying way more for then just actually making sure people can access some basic dang healthcare while getting paid minimum wage and not making them jump through 1500 hoops every 3 months to do it.
Ideally you would also care that the person not lose their healthcare not just because you might ultimately pay for it but because it means others suffer. Children, humans, your neighbors. People who serve you, clean you cars, wipe down your tables and clean the bits of foods your kids drop after you eat at restaurants, wash your dishes at those restaurants. Check you out at CVS. Then go home and make their kid dinner. They are people just like you.
Anonymous
07/03/2025 13:57
Subject: How will the “big bill” affect you?
I worry about the deficit getting out of control with negative financial implications for all Americans and the global economy. We need to raise taxes if we want to reduce the deficit and the republicans will never go for that - democrats may adopt stricter policies and raise taxes if they have control of executive and legislative branches but they will likely lose the next election after enacting such policies. I wish we had adults in the room that could consider longer term implications to policy decisions past the next election
Anonymous
07/03/2025 13:51
Subject: How will the “big bill” affect you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Consider that the cuts to Medicaid will lead to increased healthcare costs and/or lack of healthcare facilities for everyone. Do you want to live in a country with a class of people who don’t get healthcare? It’s disgusting.
Reverting to a work requirement of 20 hours per week for healthy non pregnamt adults is not an unreasonable burden.
Except the vast majority on Medicaid programs are kids, elderly and disabled---people who cannot work.
Also, where are these 20 hour a week jobs? They aren't in every state. I know people who have been looking for months and not found something.
Also the requirement to constantly reapply will bog everything down is massive papework.
It will be a crapshow of amazing proportions.
My kid just got a 20-hour a week job yesterday as a cashier. He applied to three places, interviewed at two, and got a job - all within biking distance of our house- with zero work experience and with a 16 year old male’s executive function capabilities.
I’m not saying that all the people who need to meet these requirements will have the same experience but it’s not an impossible thing.
I agree that the requirement to constantly reapply will be a crapshow of amazing proportions.
Who cares? The argument that we shouldn’t have a work requirement for Medicaid is a weak one.
It’s kind of like the argument we shouldn’t deport illegals because they pick fruit. Since when is the Democratic Party unsupportive of higher wages for Americans?
It’s terrible for democrats to go against the common sense stuff because then people ignore the terrible policy changes.
Ok, perhaps you’re right! What’s the argument FOR having a work requirement for Medicaid? State your position well enough and you might actually get more agreement than you expect.
The thing to under is that administering a work requirement also costs a lot of money in itself. Adding additional hoops costs money to administer.
Anonymous
07/03/2025 13:50
Subject: How will the “big bill” affect you?
Anonymous wrote:Thrilled the baby bonds made it through. Surprised it isn’t getting any press. This is a hugely progressive policy that previously even Cory Booker was called too liberal by Dems for proposing back in 2018 or so.
Thrilled for $1000? If that's a lifechanger read the rest of the bill you will get hosed.
Anonymous
07/03/2025 13:46
Subject: How will the “big bill” affect you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Consider that the cuts to Medicaid will lead to increased healthcare costs and/or lack of healthcare facilities for everyone. Do you want to live in a country with a class of people who don’t get healthcare? It’s disgusting.
Reverting to a work requirement of 20 hours per week for healthy non pregnamt adults is not an unreasonable burden.
Except the vast majority on Medicaid programs are kids, elderly and disabled---people who cannot work.
Also, where are these 20 hour a week jobs? They aren't in every state. I know people who have been looking for months and not found something.
Also the requirement to constantly reapply will bog everything down is massive papework.
It will be a crapshow of amazing proportions.
My kid just got a 20-hour a week job yesterday as a cashier. He applied to three places, interviewed at two, and got a job - all within biking distance of our house- with zero work experience and with a 16 year old male’s executive function capabilities.
I’m not saying that all the people who need to meet these requirements will have the same experience but it’s not an impossible thing.
I agree that the requirement to constantly reapply will be a crapshow of amazing proportions.
Who cares? The argument that we shouldn’t have a work requirement for Medicaid is a weak one.
It’s kind of like the argument we shouldn’t deport illegals because they pick fruit. Since when is the Democratic Party unsupportive of higher wages for Americans?
It’s terrible for democrats to go against the common sense stuff because then people ignore the terrible policy changes.
Ok, perhaps you’re right! What’s the argument FOR having a work requirement for Medicaid? State your position well enough and you might actually get more agreement than you expect.
Anonymous
07/03/2025 13:41
Subject: How will the “big bill” affect you?
We're a family of 5 making a bit over $150 K. There is a slightly larger child tax credit, but I think that would start for 2026?
If my DH and I can stay employed at the same jobs, we'll be getting a huge raise when the youngest is out of daycare.
If my DH and I can stay employed at the same jobs, we'll be getting a huge raise when the youngest is out of daycare.
Anonymous
07/03/2025 13:32
Subject: How will the “big bill” affect you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Consider that the cuts to Medicaid will lead to increased healthcare costs and/or lack of healthcare facilities for everyone. Do you want to live in a country with a class of people who don’t get healthcare? It’s disgusting.
Reverting to a work requirement of 20 hours per week for healthy non pregnamt adults is not an unreasonable burden.
Except the vast majority on Medicaid programs are kids, elderly and disabled---people who cannot work.
Also, where are these 20 hour a week jobs? They aren't in every state. I know people who have been looking for months and not found something.
Also the requirement to constantly reapply will bog everything down is massive papework.
It will be a crapshow of amazing proportions.
I really don’t see how you can criticize a work requirement for able bodied Americans to receive Medicaid. This doesn’t sound unreasonable and even in model liberal societies it’s a requirement to work.
The noise and hysteria over this is a problem because it causes confusion and then the legit issues and grievances by this admin are overshadowed.
Sorry if we don’t trust the people who are on record calling for the murder of 65 million people, throwing citizens in concentration camps without due process, condoning assassination of legislators, and threatening to deport elected officials for political disagreements, are going to administer the requirements fairly.
Anonymous
07/03/2025 13:19
Subject: How will the “big bill” affect you?
Thr student loan provisions are particularly bad. I have a sibling who was working in government research and was laid off by DOGE. Her field is flooded by laid off researchers, she has a PhD that appears to now be useless, she was a couple years off PSLF and now they're making her loan situation worse. She was researching cancer causes.
Anonymous
07/03/2025 13:17
Subject: How will the “big bill” affect you?
Thrilled the baby bonds made it through. Surprised it isn’t getting any press. This is a hugely progressive policy that previously even Cory Booker was called too liberal by Dems for proposing back in 2018 or so.
Anonymous
07/03/2025 13:09
Subject: How will the “big bill” affect you?
Family members with autistic adult kids who don't realize they are on Medicaid will be hitting us up for money constantly.
Anonymous
07/03/2025 13:07
Subject: How will the “big bill” affect you?
I am excited for no taxes on OT!
Anonymous
07/03/2025 12:57
Subject: How will the “big bill” affect you?
It might help me from a tax perspective but it will raise all our medical costs so probably nets out a negative for me personally. And even if it did benefit me, I'd rather pay higher taxes and have a functioning social support system for those who need it. Because I'm not a selfish prick.
Anonymous
07/03/2025 12:52
Subject: How will the “big bill” affect you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We will get a large tax cut we don't need and didn't vote for. People will suffer because of it, and that hurts all of us.
Exactly.
We are also weirdly benefiting from the DOGE insanity but it’s still a horrible loss for all of us.
How?
Some cut work is still essential. Someone has to do it.
Like which ones? Education? EPA??