Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 15:27     Subject: Re:Trump Jobs Report - AWFUL

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP. Sadly MAGA will spin this as Biden’s fault or lazy immigrants who are taking both public funds and good paying jobs. There is no reasoning, no understanding of economics, no acknowledgment of public goods or public will. It’s all ME ME ME.

Anyone who is upset with the direction of this country needs to do SOMETHING about it.

Volunteer
Protest
Boycott
Speak up, speak out. Especially people with money.


Why does everyone in DC assume everyone miserable. We are not.


For now. Only a matter of time.


We found one of the people who knows nothing about economics!


Basic economics—when you haphazardly, randomly, and suddenly fire thousands of federal workers throughout the country and do the same with government research grants, programs, contracts and subsidies—you f**k up the economy. You make it worse by giving trillions of tax cuts to billionaires and multimillionaires while cutting Medicaid, SNAP, Veterans programs, and other funding that affects people throughout the United States. Add TACO Trumps tariffs and masked ICE “agents” terrorizing people and you’ve created a shit economy.

News flash—when regular people get fired they don’t spend money. They don’t go to the local coffee shop, or out to eat, or put their kid in camp or daycare. Their spending slows and the businesses that have relied on receiving that spending aren’t getting that business/money so they not only make less but need fewer workers or have fewer hours for people to work. Trickle down economics from billionaires and mega millionaires DOES NOT WORK. Money in the hands of poor people, working class people and actual middle class people grows the economy.

People who sign their kids up for camps or classes or travel sports. People who go to dinner or rent or see a movie. People who buy diapers, school supplies, yard and lawn care items. Who hire someone to update the bathroom. No $-they’ll live with the ugly tile.

You know why the markets like certainty? Because people get nervous about spending when things are chaotic and they don’t know what’s going to happen.

Trump is America’s abusive husband/father and everyone’s walking on eggshells wondering when he’s going to explode or what he’s going to break next. That makes people cautious and is not conducive to economic growth.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 14:25     Subject: Trump Jobs Report - AWFUL

What is ADP's track record on these? Do they get adjusted later in a substantial way?

I remember there being a split between BLS and DOL, but don't remember this one.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 14:25     Subject: Re:Trump Jobs Report - AWFUL

Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 14:23     Subject: Trump Jobs Report - AWFUL

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Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 14:19     Subject: Trump Jobs Report - AWFUL

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your husband is an anecdotal example. It's personal for you. I get it.

Look at the employment numbers in the context of history. It's not bad at all.

If you lose your job, it’s impactful, no matter how you attempt to minimize it for that poster.



Just bragging now.... I've always been a saver. I've never had less than a year of living expenses.

I do not rely on anyone including the government. Stop living hand-to-mouth.

This place is filled with DC animals whose world is being shaken to the core, and a large part of the country is saying good.

Why is that? The entitlement mentality is rampant here. As if! You think you are necessary in government? Get real.

75% of the federal govt could be cut a few would miss it. 70% of the federal budget is transfer payments (money going from one person to another).

No one cares less about your "fundamental transformation".


"We are the ones we have been waiting for." - Barack Obama


Do you want to spew your nonsense at the nearly 2M Floridians on Medicaid (the largest in the country). God forbid some of us in DC would like to help those out in a bad@sskward state.

You’re not better than other people. Your savings make you no more, or no less worthy of dignity and respect.



I never said I'm better than others. I'm saying stop putting me on the line for medical spending of complete strangers because you want to feel good about yourself by spending other people's money.

I'm further saying that you're probably one of the takers. Are we clear?


You seem not to understand that you are on the line for strangers' health costs whether Medicaid exists or not. The question is whether the care happens efficiently and with optimal health outcomes or expensively and with lots of human misery.


You don't seem to understand how many illegal aliens are going to self-deport after all these social benefits start drying up. This is just one step in a series of many.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 14:17     Subject: Trump Jobs Report - AWFUL

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your husband is an anecdotal example. It's personal for you. I get it.

Look at the employment numbers in the context of history. It's not bad at all.

If you lose your job, it’s impactful, no matter how you attempt to minimize it for that poster.



Just bragging now.... I've always been a saver. I've never had less than a year of living expenses.

I do not rely on anyone including the government. Stop living hand-to-mouth.

This place is filled with DC animals whose world is being shaken to the core, and a large part of the country is saying good.

Why is that? The entitlement mentality is rampant here. As if! You think you are necessary in government? Get real.

75% of the federal govt could be cut a few would miss it. 70% of the federal budget is transfer payments (money going from one person to another).

No one cares less about your "fundamental transformation".


"We are the ones we have been waiting for." - Barack Obama


Do you want to spew your nonsense at the nearly 2M Floridians on Medicaid (the largest in the country). God forbid some of us in DC would like to help those out in a bad@sskward state.

You’re not better than other people. Your savings make you no more, or no less worthy of dignity and respect.



I never said I'm better than others. I'm saying stop putting me on the line for medical spending of complete strangers because you want to feel good about yourself by spending other people's money.

I'm further saying that you're probably one of the takers. Are we clear?


You seem not to understand that you are on the line for strangers' health costs whether Medicaid exists or not. The question is whether the care happens efficiently and with optimal health outcomes or expensively and with lots of human misery.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 14:16     Subject: Trump Jobs Report - AWFUL

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Projected 100k increase.

Actual?

Down 33,000 private sector jobs.


https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/02/adp-jobs-report-june-2025.html


Awful?

There are 330,000,000 people in the country.

33,000 lost their job (probably many of those are government jobs)* .

So, 1 in every 10,000 people lost their job.

Come back when your hair is on fire.



* "Federal government employment continued to decline in May (-22,000) and is down by 59,000
since January. (Employees on paid leave or receiving ongoing severance pay are counted as
employed in the establishment survey.)"

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

These are not government jobs, but private sector jobs. Also? There may be 330 million people in this country, but not all of them are eligible or able to work. For instance, Seventy-four million or 22.3% are under the age of 18 years.


Oh, OK. Let's cut it in half.

So one in every 4,848 lost their jobs. Shocking.


These are net job losses. Companies are constantly adding jobs and subtracting jobs due to changes in customer demand, cycles of projects and contracts, seasonal ups and downs, etc. some business fail; new businesses start up.

Every month, hundreds of thousands of jobs end and hundreds of thousands of new jobs are created. In June, small business lost 47k more jobs than they added, but that doesn’t mean only 47k people lost their jobs.


Sure.

I have stopped spending money because we are concerned about job loss. We aren't traveling for a vacation this year.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 14:13     Subject: Trump Jobs Report - AWFUL

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your husband is an anecdotal example. It's personal for you. I get it.

Look at the employment numbers in the context of history. It's not bad at all.

If you lose your job, it’s impactful, no matter how you attempt to minimize it for that poster.



Just bragging now.... I've always been a saver. I've never had less than a year of living expenses.

I do not rely on anyone including the government. Stop living hand-to-mouth.

This place is filled with DC animals whose world is being shaken to the core, and a large part of the country is saying good.

Why is that? The entitlement mentality is rampant here. As if! You think you are necessary in government? Get real.

75% of the federal govt could be cut a few would miss it. 70% of the federal budget is transfer payments (money going from one person to another).

No one cares less about your "fundamental transformation".


"We are the ones we have been waiting for." - Barack Obama


Do you want to spew your nonsense at the nearly 2M Floridians on Medicaid (the largest in the country). God forbid some of us in DC would like to help those out in a bad@sskward state.

You’re not better than other people. Your savings make you no more, or no less worthy of dignity and respect.



I never said I'm better than others. I'm saying stop putting me on the line for medical spending of complete strangers because you want to feel good about yourself by spending other people's money.

I'm further saying that you're probably one of the takers. Are we clear?
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 13:42     Subject: Trump Jobs Report - AWFUL

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Projected 100k increase.

Actual?

Down 33,000 private sector jobs.


https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/02/adp-jobs-report-june-2025.html


Awful?

There are 330,000,000 people in the country.

33,000 lost their job (probably many of those are government jobs)* .

So, 1 in every 10,000 people lost their job.

Come back when your hair is on fire.



* "Federal government employment continued to decline in May (-22,000) and is down by 59,000
since January. (Employees on paid leave or receiving ongoing severance pay are counted as
employed in the establishment survey.)"

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm


Yes, awful. Anemic job "growth" reports get criticized. This is job "loss". Why do you reflexively defend the orange moron at every step?
You need to show more respect to our great president. He has more intelligence and cognitive ability, even at his age, than you will ever have.


Well, he certainly has more diarrhea in his diaper.


Contrast this with the previous president, who actually did s*** his pants in front of the pope.

Every accusation is an admission. ^^^



Well if a random person says a bunch of things….

MAGA voters make more sense every day.

Trump works an hour a day and he looks like he is being held up by wires and glue.

But yes, you have certainly uncovered the secret that Biden is old…? So maybe a participation trophy for you?




Yes, because what the New York Times, HuffPost, MSNBC and CNN say are so much more important than some random person. Are you a celebrity hound?



This is so very maga!

I bet that you’ve “done your research” about vaccines, too, yes?

Any groundbreaking thoughts about hunters laptop?

Alien abductions?
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 13:40     Subject: Trump Jobs Report - AWFUL

Anonymous wrote:From today's WSJ:

This Job Market Is Weaker Than It Looks


“The good news has been that layoff activity has remained relatively low, with employers hanging on to workers despite worries about the economy. And wage growth remains decent. But economic uncertainty has slowed the pace of hiring.

People who have jobs are keeping them, but those who want jobs are having a tough time finding work. That includes recent high-school and college graduates, people who are back on the job hunt after an absence, and those who have been fir"ed.

That has created a stagnant market, where there is little movement even when new jobs are added. It is an environment where a bit more hiring could rekindle job growth, while a slight pickup in layoffs could make the labor market more stuck.



Anyone looking for a job right now knows this all too well.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 13:38     Subject: Trump Jobs Report - AWFUL

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Projected 100k increase.

Actual?

Down 33,000 private sector jobs.


https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/02/adp-jobs-report-june-2025.html


Awful?

There are 330,000,000 people in the country.

33,000 lost their job (probably many of those are government jobs)* .

So, 1 in every 10,000 people lost their job.

Come back when your hair is on fire.



* "Federal government employment continued to decline in May (-22,000) and is down by 59,000
since January. (Employees on paid leave or receiving ongoing severance pay are counted as
employed in the establishment survey.)"

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

These are not government jobs, but private sector jobs. Also? There may be 330 million people in this country, but not all of them are eligible or able to work. For instance, Seventy-four million or 22.3% are under the age of 18 years.


Oh, OK. Let's cut it in half.

So one in every 4,848 lost their jobs. Shocking.


These are net job losses. Companies are constantly adding jobs and subtracting jobs due to changes in customer demand, cycles of projects and contracts, seasonal ups and downs, etc. some business fail; new businesses start up.

Every month, hundreds of thousands of jobs end and hundreds of thousands of new jobs are created. In June, small business lost 47k more jobs than they added, but that doesn’t mean only 47k people lost their jobs.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 13:32     Subject: Trump Jobs Report - AWFUL

From today's WSJ:

This Job Market Is Weaker Than It Looks


“The good news has been that layoff activity has remained relatively low, with employers hanging on to workers despite worries about the economy. And wage growth remains decent. But economic uncertainty has slowed the pace of hiring.

People who have jobs are keeping them, but those who want jobs are having a tough time finding work. That includes recent high-school and college graduates, people who are back on the job hunt after an absence, and those who have been fir"ed.

That has created a stagnant market, where there is little movement even when new jobs are added. It is an environment where a bit more hiring could rekindle job growth, while a slight pickup in layoffs could make the labor market more stuck.


Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 12:26     Subject: Trump Jobs Report - AWFUL

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Projected 100k increase.

Actual?

Down 33,000 private sector jobs.


https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/02/adp-jobs-report-june-2025.html


Awful?

There are 330,000,000 people in the country.

33,000 lost their job (probably many of those are government jobs)* .

So, 1 in every 10,000 people lost their job.

Come back when your hair is on fire.



* "Federal government employment continued to decline in May (-22,000) and is down by 59,000
since January. (Employees on paid leave or receiving ongoing severance pay are counted as
employed in the establishment survey.)"

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

These are not government jobs, but private sector jobs. Also? There may be 330 million people in this country, but not all of them are eligible or able to work. For instance, Seventy-four million or 22.3% are under the age of 18 years.


Oh, OK. Let's cut it in half.

So one in every 4,848 lost their jobs. Shocking.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 12:05     Subject: Trump Jobs Report - AWFUL

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Projected 100k increase.

Actual?

Down 33,000 private sector jobs.


https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/02/adp-jobs-report-june-2025.html


This will surely be the end of Trump


Death will come for him eventually, and it will be the first patriotic thing he’s ever done
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 12:04     Subject: Trump Jobs Report - AWFUL

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Projected 100k increase.

Actual?

Down 33,000 private sector jobs.


https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/02/adp-jobs-report-june-2025.html


Awful?

There are 330,000,000 people in the country.

33,000 lost their job (probably many of those are government jobs)* .

So, 1 in every 10,000 people lost their job.

Come back when your hair is on fire.



* "Federal government employment continued to decline in May (-22,000) and is down by 59,000
since January. (Employees on paid leave or receiving ongoing severance pay are counted as
employed in the establishment survey.)"

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm


The data shows that the 33,000 jobs lost were private sector jobs, not federal/government.

No one is spending money. Sales for most companies have been down since Yam Tits was elected because people knew the crazy was incoming.


My company has had multiple layoffs since the beginning of the year.