Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why everyone is so focused on tech suits. If the kid wants to wear a tech suit, let them. If the family can afford it, it’s not your business. I don’t say anything when you go out for dinner or on vacation. And I’ll add another perspective and tell you that when my daughter was struggling with her first summer having periods, I encouraged her to wear a black tech suit to the meets. It made her feel much better and like no one could “see anything.” So lighten up, people. Let the kids wear whatever they want, as long as they are happy, comfortable and confident. It really doesn’t really affect your kid.
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why everyone is so focused on tech suits. If the kid wants to wear a tech suit, let them. If the family can afford it, it’s not your business. I don’t say anything when you go out for dinner or on vacation. And I’ll add another perspective and tell you that when my daughter was struggling with her first summer having periods, I encouraged her to wear a black tech suit to the meets. It made her feel much better and like no one could “see anything.” So lighten up, people. Let the kids wear whatever they want, as long as they are happy, comfortable and confident. It really doesn’t really affect your kid.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you own a tech suit(s), more than likely you swim on a club team, which is far more important to save your suit "swims" for champ meets than burn them at summer meets. Who cares what rank you are for 11-12 backstroke in NVSL!
Yup. Those suits are far too expensive to wear in a rec meet. USA swimming sanctioned meet where times are at least official is the bare minimum for a tech suit. Also, aren’t these summer meets hand-timed? Wearing a tech suit to in a hand-timed race seems a bit much.
Just stop. The 12U legal suits are not that expensive. Just picked one up for my kid at a local store for about $100. That's not much more than our team suit. They last forever. My kid has outgrown every one we've bought before it has worn out.
The new one is mostly for LC champs, but you better believe it will be used for our NVSL meets. DC will again out grown this suit before winter champs so I'm going to get my money's worth out of it.
You people must be a ton of fun at other sports. Do you examine every bat at baseball/softball and tell the kids they need to save that bat for All stars? It's too good to use for a regular season game? Those soccer cleats are too nice to use in this game. It's unsportsmanlike to have nicer shoes than the other team!
You are proving the point that most of you don’t understand what a tech suit is versus a kneeskin. The actual tech suits run about $500 and have a limited number of wears before they lose their advantage, so yes wasting a wear on a summer league SCM swim is ridiculous.
I do know what an actual tech suit is and you can see these actual $500+ suits in use tonight at relay carnival across multiple divisions, especially the higher divisions.
That’s not the point posters are making here. Wear whatever you want, that’s fine. In a mid or low tier division where this is not common practice just give the other team a heads up so they can also let their swimmers know. That way it’s a level playing field and people don’t look like d-bags!
Just be a good sport. One suit here or there for people trying to break records, fine. When a whole team shows up at your pool wearing knee skins for 12u and then half the older kids have real tech suits on, it’s not a great look when you are in a double digit division.
If I went to the OKM - Chesterbrook meet I would expect to see this because it’s common practice. Double digit division not so much. This thread is about sportsmanship.
Meet this weekend. They had 20 kids in tech suits. Top third in tge league and they see nothing wrong with it.
After this thread I went and looked at team social media and the ones in tech suits for A meets. Just a bad look.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you own a tech suit(s), more than likely you swim on a club team, which is far more important to save your suit "swims" for champ meets than burn them at summer meets. Who cares what rank you are for 11-12 backstroke in NVSL!
Yup. Those suits are far too expensive to wear in a rec meet. USA swimming sanctioned meet where times are at least official is the bare minimum for a tech suit. Also, aren’t these summer meets hand-timed? Wearing a tech suit to in a hand-timed race seems a bit much.
Just stop. The 12U legal suits are not that expensive. Just picked one up for my kid at a local store for about $100. That's not much more than our team suit. They last forever. My kid has outgrown every one we've bought before it has worn out.
The new one is mostly for LC champs, but you better believe it will be used for our NVSL meets. DC will again out grown this suit before winter champs so I'm going to get my money's worth out of it.
You people must be a ton of fun at other sports. Do you examine every bat at baseball/softball and tell the kids they need to save that bat for All stars? It's too good to use for a regular season game? Those soccer cleats are too nice to use in this game. It's unsportsmanlike to have nicer shoes than the other team!
You are proving the point that most of you don’t understand what a tech suit is versus a kneeskin. The actual tech suits run about $500 and have a limited number of wears before they lose their advantage, so yes wasting a wear on a summer league SCM swim is ridiculous.
I do know what an actual tech suit is and you can see these actual $500+ suits in use tonight at relay carnival across multiple divisions, especially the higher divisions.
That’s not the point posters are making here. Wear whatever you want, that’s fine. In a mid or low tier division where this is not common practice just give the other team a heads up so they can also let their swimmers know. That way it’s a level playing field and people don’t look like d-bags!
Just be a good sport. One suit here or there for people trying to break records, fine. When a whole team shows up at your pool wearing knee skins for 12u and then half the older kids have real tech suits on, it’s not a great look when you are in a double digit division.
If I went to the OKM - Chesterbrook meet I would expect to see this because it’s common practice. Double digit division not so much. This thread is about sportsmanship.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our swim team doesn't let kids without times in A meets. How does that not cause hard feelings with the kid on the ladder with a time who should have had that spot?
Nobody has an official time for the first A meet. We’ve had instances where a swimmer with NT is known to be faster and swims in place of some with a time.
What would you do if you needed someone with NT to fill a lane? Not let them swim? At times had to beg non-swim team club members to swim. They obviously wouldn’t have times.
Isn't that why every team does time trials? If a kid doesn't swim in time trials, he doesn't have a time he can use to get into an A meet until he swims it in a B meet.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our swim team doesn't let kids without times in A meets. How does that not cause hard feelings with the kid on the ladder with a time who should have had that spot?
Nobody has an official time for the first A meet. We’ve had instances where a swimmer with NT is known to be faster and swims in place of some with a time.
What would you do if you needed someone with NT to fill a lane? Not let them swim? At times had to beg non-swim team club members to swim. They obviously wouldn’t have times.
Isn't that why every team does time trials? If a kid doesn't swim in time trials, he doesn't have a time he can use to get into an A meet until he swims it in a B meet.
Only A meet times from this year count as having a time for NVSL rules purposes. But there are lots of ways to figure out who is faster: time trials, b meets, race offs, last years times, etc.
I can't tell if you are being dense on purpose? I am a NP. Time trials and B meets are a fair and transparent way to give everyone the opportunity to qualify for an A meet. All the other suggestions are favoritism for some swimmers, who yes may be faster.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our swim team doesn't let kids without times in A meets. How does that not cause hard feelings with the kid on the ladder with a time who should have had that spot?
Nobody has an official time for the first A meet. We’ve had instances where a swimmer with NT is known to be faster and swims in place of some with a time.
What would you do if you needed someone with NT to fill a lane? Not let them swim? At times had to beg non-swim team club members to swim. They obviously wouldn’t have times.
Isn't that why every team does time trials? If a kid doesn't swim in time trials, he doesn't have a time he can use to get into an A meet until he swims it in a B meet.
Only A meet times from this year count as having a time for NVSL rules purposes. But there are lots of ways to figure out who is faster: time trials, b meets, race offs, last years times, etc.
I can't tell if you are being dense on purpose? I am a NP. Time trials and B meets are a fair and transparent way to give everyone the opportunity to qualify for an A meet. All the other suggestions are favoritism for some swimmers, who yes may be faster.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our swim team doesn't let kids without times in A meets. How does that not cause hard feelings with the kid on the ladder with a time who should have had that spot?
Nobody has an official time for the first A meet. We’ve had instances where a swimmer with NT is known to be faster and swims in place of some with a time.
What would you do if you needed someone with NT to fill a lane? Not let them swim? At times had to beg non-swim team club members to swim. They obviously wouldn’t have times.
Isn't that why every team does time trials? If a kid doesn't swim in time trials, he doesn't have a time he can use to get into an A meet until he swims it in a B meet.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our swim team doesn't let kids without times in A meets. How does that not cause hard feelings with the kid on the ladder with a time who should have had that spot?
Nobody has an official time for the first A meet. We’ve had instances where a swimmer with NT is known to be faster and swims in place of some with a time.
What would you do if you needed someone with NT to fill a lane? Not let them swim? At times had to beg non-swim team club members to swim. They obviously wouldn’t have times.
Isn't that why every team does time trials? If a kid doesn't swim in time trials, he doesn't have a time he can use to get into an A meet until he swims it in a B meet.
Only A meet times from this year count as having a time for NVSL rules purposes. But there are lots of ways to figure out who is faster: time trials, b meets, race offs, last years times, etc.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our swim team doesn't let kids without times in A meets. How does that not cause hard feelings with the kid on the ladder with a time who should have had that spot?
Nobody has an official time for the first A meet. We’ve had instances where a swimmer with NT is known to be faster and swims in place of some with a time.
What would you do if you needed someone with NT to fill a lane? Not let them swim? At times had to beg non-swim team club members to swim. They obviously wouldn’t have times.
Isn't that why every team does time trials? If a kid doesn't swim in time trials, he doesn't have a time he can use to get into an A meet until he swims it in a B meet.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our swim team doesn't let kids without times in A meets. How does that not cause hard feelings with the kid on the ladder with a time who should have had that spot?
Nobody has an official time for the first A meet. We’ve had instances where a swimmer with NT is known to be faster and swims in place of some with a time.
What would you do if you needed someone with NT to fill a lane? Not let them swim? At times had to beg non-swim team club members to swim. They obviously wouldn’t have times.
Anonymous wrote:Our swim team doesn't let kids without times in A meets. How does that not cause hard feelings with the kid on the ladder with a time who should have had that spot?
Anonymous wrote:Our swim team doesn't let kids without times in A meets. How does that not cause hard feelings with the kid on the ladder with a time who should have had that spot?