Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they are taught from the moment they are born they are worthless without having a man/ husband.

Making money is hard as a woman especially since most are steered into lower paying positions long before they are even wives and mothers.

I am a 50 year old woman and I have never even heard that sentiment let alone been taught it. Maybe it was just your parents. I don’t know any women who think they are worthless without a man.

It’s not explicit. It’s the general message from our culture.

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Not in mine. I am surprised that none of you have any worth that isn’t from a man and don’t know any women who have any self worth that ain’t from a man. Every woman you know feels completely worthless other than for what the men in her life do for her? That just isn’t my culture at all. I am sorry you feel that way and had that experience. It has to have been hard to be raised in homes being told you are worthless, absolutely worthless until you marry a man. I am curious if you still tell your own daughters this as well if you believe it to be true and it is the expected value in your culture.

What culture are you from, OP? Watch the original Disney princess movies - the stories all end at marriage. That is the epitome of women's lives.

Anonymous wrote:

Wut. Are you saying that one spouse should pay the other for the tasks listed (e.g., sexy time)? How did you get from one spouse doing specific tasks (e.g., managing the staff) while another does other tasks to you receiving free labor? BTW - Does your spouse believe that "sexy time" is labor, or does she ever enjoy it enough to consider it something done for fun?

Huh? Am taking advantage of the free labor. Nothing more and nothing less!

How exactly are you taking advantage of free labor? Do you share what you earn with her? If you do, then it is not "free." Instead, you are a member of a partnership to which you are contributing your salary.

Free would be having her maintain a house where you lived and she provided all the benefits (including "sexy time" <barf> you noted in your first post, but paid nothing.

She works and pays in too. She does the free labor at home and I don’t. I’m bad at it anyhow, so I just watch tv or play on my iPhone. I don’t even know the nanny’s name.

Glad we are in agreement.

Anonymous wrote:Huh and yet men do this all the time, and its unremarked upon. Check your misandry.

+1

And there’s nothing wrong with working in a physical job. Maybe it keeps him fit and gives him a flexible schedule to balance out their lives. Maybe he has a home cooked meal waiting for her every night after her stressful big job. Maybe he has a schedule that allows him to take the kids to the bus stop in the morning so she can start work early.

I mean there are so many things a partner can contribute besides a paycheck and he is in fact employed. It doesn’t exactly sound like he is sitting at home in his undies playing video games all day while she works and then does all the housework. If that is the case then yeah, she settled.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they are taught from the moment they are born they are worthless without having a man/ husband.

Making money is hard as a woman especially since most are steered into lower paying positions long before they are even wives and mothers.

I am a 50 year old woman and I have never even heard that sentiment let alone been taught it. Maybe it was just your parents. I don’t know any women who think they are worthless without a man.

Me either.

Wut. Are you saying that one spouse should pay the other for the tasks listed (e.g., sexy time)? How did you get from one spouse doing specific tasks (e.g., managing the staff) while another does other tasks to you receiving free labor? BTW - Does your spouse believe that "sexy time" is labor, or does she ever enjoy it enough to consider it something done for fun?

Huh? Am taking advantage of the free labor. Nothing more and nothing less!

How exactly are you taking advantage of free labor? Do you share what you earn with her? If you do, then it is not "free." Instead, you are a member of a partnership to which you are contributing your salary.

Free would be having her maintain a house where you lived and she provided all the benefits (including "sexy time" <barf> you noted in your first post, but paid nothing.

Anonymous wrote:

Please tell us more about the "free labour".

I have been married 31 years, and I have worked every day I have been married as an attorney. My DW has worked both inside and sometimes outside of the home during our marriage.

We would love to take advantage of some free labor.

FREE LABOR FROM WIFEY:
Cooking
Cleaning
Managing the staff
Raising the kids
Teaching the kids
Managing the school, sports, health of the kids
Vacation and summer planning
Holidays, bdays and traditions
Sexy time
Major purchases and decorating
College application management
Makes all appointments and reminders

And best of all… I get to look like a mature, responsible hard-working married Family Guy.

Wut. Are you saying that one spouse should pay the other for the tasks listed (e.g., sexy time)? How did you get from one spouse doing specific tasks (e.g., managing the staff) while another does other tasks to you receiving free labor? BTW - Does your spouse believe that "sexy time" is labor, or does she ever enjoy it enough to consider it something done for fun?

Huh? Am taking advantage of the free labor. Nothing more and nothing less!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not at all. Men want free labour.

Please tell us more about the "free labour".

I have been married 31 years, and I have worked every day I have been married as an attorney. My DW has worked both inside and sometimes outside of the home during our marriage.

We would love to take advantage of some free labor.

FREE LABOR FROM WIFEY:
Cooking - yes
Cleaning - shared
Managing the staff - nope
Raising the kids - shared
Teaching the kids - yes
Managing the school, sports, health of the kids - yes
Vacation and summer planning - shared
Holidays, bdays and traditions - yes
Sexy time - shared
Major purchases and decorating - shared
College application management - nope
Makes all appointments and reminders - yes

And best of all… I get to look like a mature, responsible hard-working married Family Guy.

In addition:

Laundry - me
Window cleaning - me
Home maintenance and repair - me
Auto repair mgmt - me
Training new technology - me

And that’s just off the top of my head. Yeah, no free labor here.

Please tell us more about the "free labour".

I have been married 31 years, and I have worked every day I have been married as an attorney. My DW has worked both inside and sometimes outside of the home during our marriage.

We would love to take advantage of some free labor.

FREE LABOR FROM WIFEY:
Cooking
Cleaning
Managing the staff
Raising the kids
Teaching the kids
Managing the school, sports, health of the kids
Vacation and summer planning
Holidays, bdays and traditions
Sexy time
Major purchases and decorating
College application management
Makes all appointments and reminders

And best of all… I get to look like a mature, responsible hard-working married Family Guy.

Wut. Are you saying that one spouse should pay the other for the tasks listed (e.g., sexy time)? How did you get from one spouse doing specific tasks (e.g., managing the staff) while another does other tasks to you receiving free labor? BTW - Does your spouse believe that "sexy time" is labor, or does she ever enjoy it enough to consider it something done for fun?

I’m supposed to go off Ozempic and start working out and eating nutritiously but I’m too lazy. Easier to keep paying $550 per month for zepbound.

And does the grocery shopping or delivery order and “meal planning.” Whatever that is.

And she does the vehicle maintenance and lawn/ landscaping/planting as well. And appliance or system repairs and finds those people.

Anonymous wrote:

Not at all. Men want free labour.

Please tell us more about the "free labour".

I have been married 31 years, and I have worked every day I have been married as an attorney. My DW has worked both inside and sometimes outside of the home during our marriage.

We would love to take advantage of some free labor.

FREE LABOR FROM WIFEY:
Cooking
Cleaning
Managing the staff
Raising the kids
Teaching the kids
Managing the school, sports, health of the kids
Vacation and summer planning
Holidays, bdays and traditions
Sexy time
Major purchases and decorating
College application management
Makes all appointments and reminders

And best of all… I get to look like a mature, responsible hard-working married Family Guy.