Anonymous wrote:There is a deep rot in our country.

Right-wing radicalization.

Anonymous wrote:Odd looking “Aryan” to me.

Not really consistent with my own visualization of what a white supremacist would look like.

I guess the Aryan Nation is a lot more inclusive than I gave them credit for being.

Who knew?

WTF? He’s exactly what I picture as White Aryan living in Idaho.

In an interview, one of his former classmates said “ … Roley was someone who talked about Nazism, who was "very pro-gun," who spoke of wanting to join the military, who would often make drawings of bombs and military vehicles and who allegedly got in trouble once for drawing swastikas in a textbook.

Roley would also say "awful things" related to the border crisis, Dieter said. Dieter said he and his friends would brush off all the comments as "Wess just being Wess," trying to say outlandish things to be "edgy" and stand out.



In the same article a spokesperson said “ Police in Idaho have publicly stated that they believe Roley acted alone and that they don't believe the attack on firefighters had any connection to terrorism.”.

They need to re-think how narrowly they claim terrorism. This was clearly terrorism. You start a fire and then ambush firefighters killing two of them. Anytime someone devises a plan to kill public workers like police, firemen, teachers, politicians, it is terrorism plain and simple.




https://abcnews.go.com/US/probe-idaho-firefighter-ambush-suspect-digging-childhood-gun/story?id=123389416

Anonymous wrote:Another MAGA terrorist who isn't called a terrorist.

Doesn’t matter, we know what they are.

Anonymous wrote:Another MAGA terrorist who isn't called a terrorist.

Posters here are so hyperbolic and uninformed, which is a sad combination.

The FBI definition of domestic terrorism:

“Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.”

How does ambushing firefighters “further ideological goals” for MAGA?

Use your brain, or at least Google before you freak out on forums.

There is a deep rot in our country.

Another MAGA terrorist who isn't called a terrorist.

Anonymous wrote:Our Maga posters are strangely quiet on this thread. I wonder why.

Meh, I’m not at all MAGA but I see no point in jumping to conclusions. I mean, he was allegedly estranged from his family and there are apparently photos online as him as a furry so for all you know his MAGA parents were trying to save him or he was not at all MAGA. We just don’t know enough at this point. It doesn’t end well when people do what you seem to want.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread started late yesterday and only three pages? Hmmm....where are the regular posters??

This does not belong under Political Discussion. This tragedy is not political. It's simply domestic terrorism.

How is domestic terrorism not political?

This is a horrific story. It’s the worst kind of story.

That said, there isn’t any evidence that would point to domestic terrorism.

He murdered random firefighters because he was mad at the fire company. That's terrorism.

You may want to Google domestic terrorism. The components aren’t here.

Our Maga posters are strangely quiet on this thread. I wonder why.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like all your Nazi and Aryan theories have debunked by his grandfather.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-idaho-firefighter-ambush-identified-wess-roley-rcna215977

Turns out, as posed by his grandfather, that he was upset that he was too short to become a firefighter.

His grandfather said his grandson's height, standing around 5-foot-8, might have prevented him from becoming a firefighter.

"I know he had been in contact to get a job with a fire department," Dale Roley said. "He wanted to be part of a team that he sort of idolized."

Just like with most of these shootings, the suspect was a white guy who was a loner, nervous, and high-strung.

You can’t be a fire fighter at 5’8”?

That's probably the polite excuse they gave instead of "sorry, bud, you're too gd crazy!"

I was a firefighter. You absolutely can be a firefighter at 5'8"

Yes, he probably was crazy. Seems quite clear that the shooter was yet another homegrown radicalized right wing extremist.

The hateful lies that MAGA spews are creating domestic terrorists.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread started late yesterday and only three pages? Hmmm....where are the regular posters??

This does not belong under Political Discussion. This tragedy is not political. It's simply domestic terrorism.

How is domestic terrorism not political?

This is a horrific story. It’s the worst kind of story.

That said, there isn’t any evidence that would point to domestic terrorism.

He murdered random firefighters because he was mad at the fire company. That's terrorism.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like all your Nazi and Aryan theories have debunked by his grandfather.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-idaho-firefighter-ambush-identified-wess-roley-rcna215977

Turns out, as posed by his grandfather, that he was upset that he was too short to become a firefighter.

His grandfather said his grandson's height, standing around 5-foot-8, might have prevented him from becoming a firefighter.

"I know he had been in contact to get a job with a fire department," Dale Roley said. "He wanted to be part of a team that he sort of idolized."

Just like with most of these shootings, the suspect was a white guy who was a loner, nervous, and high-strung.

You can’t be a fire fighter at 5’8”?

That's probably the polite excuse they gave instead of "sorry, bud, you're too gd crazy!"

+1

I know lots of firefighters and several are 5’8” or shorter. I think that was an excuse this kid told his grandfather so he wasn’t embarrassed as to why he didn’t pass the test or academy.

Whatever will the MAGA press do? On the one hand they are pro first responders. On the other hand, if the shooter turns out not to fit their go-to stereotypes—lib, trans, immigrant—will they cover all the details of the shooter’s identity as they emerge?

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like all your Nazi and Aryan theories have debunked by his grandfather.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-idaho-firefighter-ambush-identified-wess-roley-rcna215977

Turns out, as posed by his grandfather, that he was upset that he was too short to become a firefighter.

His grandfather said his grandson's height, standing around 5-foot-8, might have prevented him from becoming a firefighter.

"I know he had been in contact to get a job with a fire department," Dale Roley said. "He wanted to be part of a team that he sort of idolized."

Just like with most of these shootings, the suspect was a white guy who was a loner, nervous, and high-strung.

You can’t be a fire fighter at 5’8”?

That's probably the polite excuse they gave instead of "sorry, bud, you're too gd crazy!"

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like all your Nazi and Aryan theories have debunked by his grandfather.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-idaho-firefighter-ambush-identified-wess-roley-rcna215977

Turns out, as posed by his grandfather, that he was upset that he was too short to become a firefighter.

His grandfather said his grandson's height, standing around 5-foot-8, might have prevented him from becoming a firefighter.

"I know he had been in contact to get a job with a fire department," Dale Roley said. "He wanted to be part of a team that he sort of idolized."

Just like with most of these shootings, the suspect was a white guy who was a loner, nervous, and high-strung.

You can’t be a fire fighter at 5’8”?