Anonymous wrote:Hopefully impact will be that getting into McIntire or study abroad through the school won’t be based on attempt to create diversity. Maybe my none diverse kid will finally have a shot at something.
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think legacy admissions will come back but there does appear to be two admissions standards. 4.5/1450+ SAT for one group of kids and 4.1/1300+ SAT or T.O. for another. And Scattergrams now identify major so easy to link up who is who with IG posts. This is coming from a mid tier private.
Anonymous wrote:Crazy thing is the UVA alums who I can think of off the top of my head (because they constantly wear and dress their kids in UVA attire) will be absolutely thrilled with this. Overgrown frat boys.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:More Asians
And even more women. Unless they do some kind of DEI for men.
More women? It is already disproportionately female at UVA.
It's disproportionally female at every school except for the Ivies.
Michigan, UNC, Georgetown, and on and on are all 65%/35% female.
Wrong. Michigan is 47% male to 53% female. Hardly “disproportionally female.”
Look at the Common Data set for 24-25. Michigan is quickly moving towards being more female too.
Last year (fall 2024) was 44% male, 56% female for freshman.
That is for the freshman class only. Overall stats are 47% male to 53% female. Nothing like the 65/35 you claim.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Legacy admissions was banned statewide by a bill signed by Youngkin. A new president at UVA can’t change that.
The forces that pushed Ryan out removed a university president by federal pressure for the first time in the history of the United States. Do you think they care and or can’t use the same pressure to impact policy in VA? Wake up
Of course they can, but why did Youngkin sign it in the first place? Honestly, legacy admission coming back would benefit my kids hugely. But if it means having to attend under the leadership of the Cooch, I think we’d pass.
Another clueless poster. The bump was never that big to begin with, and if you’re in state it was practically nothing. “Hugely?” Um, no.
Not hugely as in, “my kid with a 3.0 is getting in.” But hugely, as in, if it came down to my kid vs another in their class, the kid with two parents, a grandparent, and several uncles and cousins as alums would get the nod.
Legacy is parents. That’s it. Nobody gives a shit about uncles and cousins. UVA is full of students whose cousins didn’t get in. Get a grip. You are waaay overestimating how legacy worked at UVA.
Ok, fine. Then if it came down to my kid vs another in their class with equal stats, the one with two alum parents would be favored. Better?
Uh huh. Sure.
Where are you getting the fanciful idea that two kids exist with identical stats except one is a legacy? They don’t.
We have very good friends who were both UVA grads. Their very smart and perfectly well accomplished in state daughter ended up at Oberlin after not even getting waitlisted. They were furious. And it happened all the time. It’s a large state school where many in state applicants have parents who went there. It’s also much more competitive now than when you got in. You yourself probably wouldn’t get in today.
Thanks for your little anecdote. You obviously know more than me and you’ve totally put me in my place.
You’re welcome.
I’m sorry you don’t have the golden ticket to UVA anymore. But as I said you never really did. You’re just misinformed.
Don’t be sorry. As I said, we wouldn’t even want it under these circumstances. Curious though, if it was never a real advantage, then why did they have to officially end it?
Well, for starters it gave a bigger bump to out of state applicants. It essentially considered them as in state applicants for admissions purposes (although not for tuition purposes), which did make a difference.
As for you not wanting it “under these circumstances,” you’re living under a rock if you think that UVA is uniquely affected by the current crazy administration. It isn’t. Every major university is scrambling to stay on the administration’s good side and making changes big and small. They’re just not as public. And sure UVA is losing its excellent president, but he was leaving next year anyway.
So the Virginia legislature outlawed a legacy bump just to penalize out-of-state alums, while keeping the overall ratio of OOS to in-state students unchanged? Sure, ok.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Legacy admissions was banned statewide by a bill signed by Youngkin. A new president at UVA can’t change that.
The forces that pushed Ryan out removed a university president by federal pressure for the first time in the history of the United States. Do you think they care and or can’t use the same pressure to impact policy in VA? Wake up
Of course they can, but why did Youngkin sign it in the first place? Honestly, legacy admission coming back would benefit my kids hugely. But if it means having to attend under the leadership of the Cooch, I think we’d pass.
Another clueless poster. The bump was never that big to begin with, and if you’re in state it was practically nothing. “Hugely?” Um, no.
Not hugely as in, “my kid with a 3.0 is getting in.” But hugely, as in, if it came down to my kid vs another in their class, the kid with two parents, a grandparent, and several uncles and cousins as alums would get the nod.
Legacy is parents. That’s it. Nobody gives a shit about uncles and cousins. UVA is full of students whose cousins didn’t get in. Get a grip. You are waaay overestimating how legacy worked at UVA.
Ok, fine. Then if it came down to my kid vs another in their class with equal stats, the one with two alum parents would be favored. Better?
Uh huh. Sure.
Where are you getting the fanciful idea that two kids exist with identical stats except one is a legacy? They don’t.
We have very good friends who were both UVA grads. Their very smart and perfectly well accomplished in state daughter ended up at Oberlin after not even getting waitlisted. They were furious. And it happened all the time. It’s a large state school where many in state applicants have parents who went there. It’s also much more competitive now than when you got in. You yourself probably wouldn’t get in today.
Thanks for your little anecdote. You obviously know more than me and you’ve totally put me in my place.
You’re welcome.
I’m sorry you don’t have the golden ticket to UVA anymore. But as I said you never really did. You’re just misinformed.
Don’t be sorry. As I said, we wouldn’t even want it under these circumstances. Curious though, if it was never a real advantage, then why did they have to officially end it?
Well, for starters it gave a bigger bump to out of state applicants. It essentially considered them as in state applicants for admissions purposes (although not for tuition purposes), which did make a difference.
As for you not wanting it “under these circumstances,” you’re living under a rock if you think that UVA is uniquely affected by the current crazy administration. It isn’t. Every major university is scrambling to stay on the administration’s good side and making changes big and small. They’re just not as public. And sure UVA is losing its excellent president, but he was leaving next year anyway.
Anonymous wrote:Every time I have been on UVA’s campus over the past two years for tours, Days on the Lawn, etc, it seemed pretty diverse, highly academic, and definitely not a 90’s frat bro culture. Am I missing something?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:More Asians
And even more women. Unless they do some kind of DEI for men.
More women? It is already disproportionately female at UVA.
It's disproportionally female at every school except for the Ivies.
Michigan, UNC, Georgetown, and on and on are all 65%/35% female.
Wrong. Michigan is 47% male to 53% female. Hardly “disproportionally female.”
Look at the Common Data set for 24-25. Michigan is quickly moving towards being more female too.
Last year (fall 2024) was 44% male, 56% female for freshman.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:More Asians
And even more women. Unless they do some kind of DEI for men.
More women? It is already disproportionately female at UVA.
It's disproportionally female at every school except for the Ivies.
Michigan, UNC, Georgetown, and on and on are all 65%/35% female.
Wrong. Michigan is 47% male to 53% female. Hardly “disproportionally female.”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Legacy admissions was banned statewide by a bill signed by Youngkin. A new president at UVA can’t change that.
The forces that pushed Ryan out removed a university president by federal pressure for the first time in the history of the United States. Do you think they care and or can’t use the same pressure to impact policy in VA? Wake up
Of course they can, but why did Youngkin sign it in the first place? Honestly, legacy admission coming back would benefit my kids hugely. But if it means having to attend under the leadership of the Cooch, I think we’d pass.
Another clueless poster. The bump was never that big to begin with, and if you’re in state it was practically nothing. “Hugely?” Um, no.
Not hugely as in, “my kid with a 3.0 is getting in.” But hugely, as in, if it came down to my kid vs another in their class, the kid with two parents, a grandparent, and several uncles and cousins as alums would get the nod.
Legacy is parents. That’s it. Nobody gives a shit about uncles and cousins. UVA is full of students whose cousins didn’t get in. Get a grip. You are waaay overestimating how legacy worked at UVA.
Ok, fine. Then if it came down to my kid vs another in their class with equal stats, the one with two alum parents would be favored. Better?
Uh huh. Sure.
Where are you getting the fanciful idea that two kids exist with identical stats except one is a legacy? They don’t.
We have very good friends who were both UVA grads. Their very smart and perfectly well accomplished in state daughter ended up at Oberlin after not even getting waitlisted. They were furious. And it happened all the time. It’s a large state school where many in state applicants have parents who went there. It’s also much more competitive now than when you got in. You yourself probably wouldn’t get in today.
Thanks for your little anecdote. You obviously know more than me and you’ve totally put me in my place.
You’re welcome.
I’m sorry you don’t have the golden ticket to UVA anymore. But as I said you never really did. You’re just misinformed.
Don’t be sorry. As I said, we wouldn’t even want it under these circumstances. Curious though, if it was never a real advantage, then why did they have to officially end it?