Anonymous
Post 06/23/2025 06:37     Subject: Dual citizen here -I want to leave this country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What country?

PS - Saying you want to move because of Trump makes one sound crazy. (FTR, I’m a very liberal Democrat.)


What Trump is doing to the country is insane. Who wants to live in the USA now if they don’t have to?


Um…people who recognize our country is still the best and intend to fight for our democracy instead of throwing in the towel?

I’ll never understand the mentality of those who think peacing out is an appropriate response to Trump’s nonsense.

Similarly, I’ll never understand why so many immigrants from elsewhere opt to abandon their homeland in droves rather than work to fix their country. Nothing will ever improve when the prevailing mentality is “Screw you! I’m outta here!”



The US is “still the best”?! At what, exactly?
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2025 06:35     Subject: Dual citizen here -I want to leave this country

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why people are being such AHs to OP in this thread, but I am against it.

OP, you can’t “just leave”—it’s kidnapping.

But there is nothing wrong with feeling that this situation is too much for you right now. It’s a lot, it is in meaningful ways different from and more extreme than many of the harder times in American life before it, and there is no guarantee that it will work out well for any specific person who isn’t a billionaire.

My guess is that many of the ruder commenters here are jealous that you have a. option.



Yes, the rude nasty posters are jealous
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2025 21:18     Subject: Dual citizen here -I want to leave this country

I’m
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2025 20:33     Subject: Dual citizen here -I want to leave this country

I don’t know why people are being such AHs to OP in this thread, but I am against it.

OP, you can’t “just leave”—it’s kidnapping.

But there is nothing wrong with feeling that this situation is too much for you right now. It’s a lot, it is in meaningful ways different from and more extreme than many of the harder times in American life before it, and there is no guarantee that it will work out well for any specific person who isn’t a billionaire.

My guess is that many of the ruder commenters here are jealous that you have a. option.

Anonymous
Post 06/22/2025 19:55     Subject: Dual citizen here -I want to leave this country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What country?

PS - Saying you want to move because of Trump makes one sound crazy. (FTR, I’m a very liberal Democrat.)


Disagree, and we are mid-process of obtaining an EU passport and getting out when we can. This country is not safe for women and many others who are white males ([google] see braindead woman forced to carry baby until her body deteriorated so much they had to have a C section to deliver the 1.5 pound baby, raids carried out by those who say they are with ICE, but are by people with faces covered who won't show ID - that's actually kidnapping, and so much more).

This country that I was born and raised in has turned into a sh*tshow, and is the laughing-stock of the free world


Yes, go to Europe. You'll love it there. We don't want or need you here.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2025 18:32     Subject: Dual citizen here -I want to leave this country

Anonymous wrote:But my partner (my daughter’s father) won’t go or let her go with me. The country I want to move to is safer (no Trump as they hate him, no guns, etc). I’m so extremely depressed because the USA is at an all time low. I don’t want to raise my daughter here if I have another option. Any advice? A judge would deny this I’m sure. Anyone gone through a similar situation?


Leave.
Visit them or have them visit you.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2025 18:00     Subject: Dual citizen here -I want to leave this country

And I've just applied for a green card and now I am not allowed to leave the US, otherwise I will forfeit my application!!!

This administration is only temporary. I believe there are generational benefits to being American. I am doing this for my children.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2025 17:59     Subject: Dual citizen here -I want to leave this country

Please leave.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2025 17:50     Subject: Dual citizen here -I want to leave this country

OP, deal with it the best you can and in the most healthy way you can. Make positive contributions to society and whoever is around you. Don’t become difficult or annoying to be around. Pull yourself together and parent your child.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2025 17:18     Subject: Dual citizen here -I want to leave this country

Anonymous wrote:But my partner (my daughter’s father) won’t go or let her go with me. The country I want to move to is safer (no Trump as they hate him, no guns, etc). I’m so extremely depressed because the USA is at an all time low. I don’t want to raise my daughter here if I have another option. Any advice? A judge would deny this I’m sure. Anyone gone through a similar situation?


Leave or shut up. Those who are unwilling to stand up for their country when it is being governed by the worst leaders in our history then you take your cowardly body out of this country and never return. You daughter will be so much better off without you.

Anonymous
Post 06/22/2025 17:04     Subject: Dual citizen here -I want to leave this country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:But my partner (my daughter’s father) won’t go or let her go with me. The country I want to move to is safer (no Trump as they hate him, no guns, etc). I’m so extremely depressed because the USA is at an all time low. I don’t want to raise my daughter here if I have another option. Any advice? A judge would deny this I’m sure. Anyone gone through a similar situation?


This is why the world is in the state that it is. People don’t like where their country is headed so they leave. Then they don’t want to assimilate in the new country. So naturally tensions develop between immigrants and the native population.

It is simple, if you perceive a problem, stay home and fix it.


All the scientists fleeing to other countries are likely to encounter considerable resentment from native graduates who expected to fill those research positions.


Academics are quite open-minded. Also, wouldn't that same situation occur here in the US since there's so many foreign PhDs here?


Indeed it does. That's why we have limits of those kinds of visas. Academics are open-minded until you touch their research dollars.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2025 16:41     Subject: Re:Dual citizen here -I want to leave this country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In America, we succeed despite the government, not because of it.

Interstate highway system: also notoriously the result of non-governmental actors getting the job done.


Interstates now cost $5-10 million per mile to even add a lane:

https://www.fdot.gov/programmanagement/estimates/reports/cost-per-mile-models-reports

And we're seeing privately-run toll roads, like Dulles Greenway and 495 Express Lanes (Transamerica Corp) as a way to deal with government's inability to provide decent roads any more.

How many years behind schedule was the Silver Line? How many years behind is the Purple Line?


Well, now you're asking about something I now personally--I live in the construction. Decades of delay were induced via litigation. More was introduced mid-pandemic by the private partner pulling out--something government never has the option to do. MDOT took over the work and there was active construction taking place in our area throughout.

It's not all one or the other, which is what makes the claim that "in America we succeed in spite of the government" so ridiculous.

Adding lanes should cost a lot. Car travel generally should cost a lot. Until now, drivers have imposed nearly all of the externalities on others. That's not cheap--it was passing the buck.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2025 16:27     Subject: Dual citizen here -I want to leave this country

Anonymous wrote:What country?

PS - Saying you want to move because of Trump makes one sound crazy. (FTR, I’m a very liberal Democrat.)


Disagree, and we are mid-process of obtaining an EU passport and getting out when we can. This country is not safe for women and many others who are white males ([google] see braindead woman forced to carry baby until her body deteriorated so much they had to have a C section to deliver the 1.5 pound baby, raids carried out by those who say they are with ICE, but are by people with faces covered who won't show ID - that's actually kidnapping, and so much more).

This country that I was born and raised in has turned into a sh*tshow, and is the laughing-stock of the free world
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2025 16:23     Subject: Dual citizen here -I want to leave this country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A child needs a family with two parents more than a ‘better’ country. Grow up.


With all the mass shootings in this country it’s a gamble living here.


If we hadn't let in so many illegals then we wouldn't be in this situation.


Go read actual data about who commits most firearm homicides in the US.

Don’t ask Fix or some bro podcast. Read actual data. You are frighteningly uninformed!!
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2025 16:21     Subject: Dual citizen here -I want to leave this country

Anonymous wrote:What country?

PS - Saying you want to move because of Trump makes one sound crazy. (FTR, I’m a very liberal Democrat.)


NP here.

I can understand OP.

It is not because of one man. It is because twice he (a crook, racist, ignoramus, misogynist, corrupt, unethical, despotic , liar) was elected to lead us. One of America’s two major political parties has totally capitulated to him.

Republicans also refuse to pass even the most sensible firearm regulations, despite the fact that firearms now cause more child deaths than any other cause.

WHO would be drawn to such an environment for raising their child?

(Oh, and we are now defunding medical research, science-informed public health and environmental protection, and higher education in favor of tax cuts for billionaires and military parades on the fuhrer’s birthday. No…)