Anonymous
Post 06/13/2025 15:45     Subject: “Always choose the bear” ??

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do men get upset about this meme? Literally they are the biggest danger to women and other men. They commit almost all violent crime. Not all men are predators, but basically all predators are men. And women who commit violent acts are usually abuse survivors of men. If you don't understand why a woman who encountered a strange man in the woods would be scared, you are insane. At least the bear lives there and might just be going about its business. The man is probably up to no good.


What an insight. Now do race and crime and come back to us.


OK, sure. I only hire Latinos to clean my house. I am scared of both the black and the white people (usually women) who do this job. I am white. This comes from years of experience. I don't feel bad about it. A lot of this goes back to the men that the housekeepers could be involved with--I don't want those men coming near my house. So it really all comes back to men even when it starts out with race.


It sounds like your fear comes down to economic class.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2025 15:39     Subject: “Always choose the bear” ??

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do men get upset about this meme? Literally they are the biggest danger to women and other men. They commit almost all violent crime. Not all men are predators, but basically all predators are men. And women who commit violent acts are usually abuse survivors of men. If you don't understand why a woman who encountered a strange man in the woods would be scared, you are insane. At least the bear lives there and might just be going about its business. The man is probably up to no good.


What an insight. Now do race and crime and come back to us.


OK, sure. I only hire Latinos to clean my house. I am scared of both the black and the white people (usually women) who do this job. I am white. This comes from years of experience. I don't feel bad about it. A lot of this goes back to the men that the housekeepers could be involved with--I don't want those men coming near my house. So it really all comes back to men even when it starts out with race.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2025 15:07     Subject: “Always choose the bear” ??

Anonymous wrote:Why do men get upset about this meme? Literally they are the biggest danger to women and other men. They commit almost all violent crime. Not all men are predators, but basically all predators are men. And women who commit violent acts are usually abuse survivors of men. If you don't understand why a woman who encountered a strange man in the woods would be scared, you are insane. At least the bear lives there and might just be going about its business. The man is probably up to no good.


What an insight. Now do race and crime and come back to us.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2025 14:57     Subject: “Always choose the bear” ??

Anonymous wrote:I feel like only predatory men with fragile egos are offended by this concept. My DH isn’t, nor are our male friends. But they are genuinely good men who treat women very well. If someone feels attacked by this idea it says a lot about them.


I’m not a man and I feel attacked by this idea. The notion that half of our population is so inherently dangerous that we would rather be with a large, dangerous wild animal is so out of line with reality that it blows my mind.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2025 14:54     Subject: “Always choose the bear” ??

I feel like only predatory men with fragile egos are offended by this concept. My DH isn’t, nor are our male friends. But they are genuinely good men who treat women very well. If someone feels attacked by this idea it says a lot about them.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2025 14:34     Subject: “Always choose the bear” ??

I’m 50 and have been surrounded by men my entire life and have never been attacked by one. I haven’t been surrounded by an equal number of bears. It’s hard to make the comparison. If I were surrounded by an equal number of bears throughout my life, maybe I wouldn’t have been attacked by one either.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2025 14:16     Subject: “Always choose the bear” ??

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do men get upset about this meme? Literally they are the biggest danger to women and other men. They commit almost all violent crime. Not all men are predators, but basically all predators are men. And women who commit violent acts are usually abuse survivors of men. If you don't understand why a woman who encountered a strange man in the woods would be scared, you are insane. At least the bear lives there and might just be going about its business. The man is probably up to no good.


Because it paints all men based upon a few, e.g., all women are gold diggers.


Unfortunately we can't tell who's who and you are our biggest threat. Our lives are shaped by the fact that we can't be out alone in certain places or at certain hours. We literally have to avoid jobs, events, etc. due to safety concerns about parking, lighting, transportation, etc. It is fairly all consuming. The fact that the meme is so popular should lead to empathy over how we have to live, not offense.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2025 14:10     Subject: “Always choose the bear” ??

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do men get upset about this meme? Literally they are the biggest danger to women and other men. They commit almost all violent crime. Not all men are predators, but basically all predators are men. And women who commit violent acts are usually abuse survivors of men. If you don't understand why a woman who encountered a strange man in the woods would be scared, you are insane. At least the bear lives there and might just be going about its business. The man is probably up to no good.


Because it paints all men based upon a few, e.g., all women are gold diggers.


The proper question then is would you rather go into the woods with a bear, a man, or a woman?
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2025 14:07     Subject: Re:“Always choose the bear” ??

Anonymous wrote:
Beats most often attack when feeling threatened and get defensive. They commonly target the head and neck. Most common is to grab by the neck and shake.


You should look into the article that the bear biologist wrote about the Timothy Treadwell incident. It would be enlightening to you.

You want to base your entire philosophy off of one encounter? And not general patterns and behaviors? Seems a bit short sighted.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2025 14:05     Subject: Re:“Always choose the bear” ??

Beats most often attack when feeling threatened and get defensive. They commonly target the head and neck. Most common is to grab by the neck and shake.


You should look into the article that the bear biologist wrote about the Timothy Treadwell incident. It would be enlightening to you.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2025 14:02     Subject: Re:“Always choose the bear” ??

Why do men get upset about this meme? Literally they are the biggest danger to women and other men.


I'm a woman and while I get the larger idea that the meme is trying to convey, I am not a fan of it because it is based on a somewhat faulty premise. Yes, any given woman is far more statistically likely to be harmed by a man than a bear. But that is because we encounter men more often than bears. If I had the choice of encountering a random man in the wild vs. not encountering one, or encountering a woman, clearly I would not pick encountering the random man. If I had a choice of encountering a random man vs. a grizzly bear in the wild, I would pick the random man. I have a better chance of successfully fighting him off than the bear, and even if I couldn't, he's less likely to eat my intestines while I am still living.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2025 13:59     Subject: “Always choose the bear” ??

Anonymous wrote:Why do men get upset about this meme? Literally they are the biggest danger to women and other men. They commit almost all violent crime. Not all men are predators, but basically all predators are men. And women who commit violent acts are usually abuse survivors of men. If you don't understand why a woman who encountered a strange man in the woods would be scared, you are insane. At least the bear lives there and might just be going about its business. The man is probably up to no good.


Or he's walking in the woods like you are.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2025 13:54     Subject: “Always choose the bear” ??

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do men get upset about this meme? Literally they are the biggest danger to women and other men. They commit almost all violent crime. Not all men are predators, but basically all predators are men. And women who commit violent acts are usually abuse survivors of men. If you don't understand why a woman who encountered a strange man in the woods would be scared, you are insane. At least the bear lives there and might just be going about its business. The man is probably up to no good.


Because it paints all men based upon a few, e.g., all women are gold diggers.


So go in to the wood with the bear instead of the woman. Whatever you choose.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2025 13:52     Subject: “Always choose the bear” ??

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do men get upset about this meme? Literally they are the biggest danger to women and other men. They commit almost all violent crime. Not all men are predators, but basically all predators are men. And women who commit violent acts are usually abuse survivors of men. If you don't understand why a woman who encountered a strange man in the woods would be scared, you are insane. At least the bear lives there and might just be going about its business. The man is probably up to no good.


Because it paints all men based upon a few, e.g., all women are gold diggers.

Women can’t look at a man and decide if he’s going to rape her or not. Taking precautions is not painting all men poorly. You really don’t seem to see the other side. Willfully ignorant. Ask any women in your life if they’ve been assaulted or sexually harassed. Almost all women have experienced this at some point in our lives, starting as early as like 10! Why can’t you grasp that? If you don’t think this applies to you (ie being more dangerous than a bear), then good! Take it and go forth and do good in the world! If it doesn’t apply to you, you have no reason to be so upset. If it doesn’t apply to you, be better than those men. Be an ally to women, not just in lip service but in action. Call out bad behaviour of other men. If you’re just going to keep b****ing and complaining about women being the problem, then maybe you’re not as safe as you make yourself out to be.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2025 13:41     Subject: “Always choose the bear” ??

Anonymous wrote:Why do men get upset about this meme? Literally they are the biggest danger to women and other men. They commit almost all violent crime. Not all men are predators, but basically all predators are men. And women who commit violent acts are usually abuse survivors of men. If you don't understand why a woman who encountered a strange man in the woods would be scared, you are insane. At least the bear lives there and might just be going about its business. The man is probably up to no good.


Because it paints all men based upon a few, e.g., all women are gold diggers.