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Anonymous wrote:I have no connection to TJ at all. None. It sure looks like an impressive list to me. There are plenty of kids going to top STEM schools, which is TJ’s focus, and they’re being smart in their choices. Purdue, Michigan, Maryland etc.

You’re also not taking into account the increased economic diversity in the school that I have to assume is one of the results of the new admissions policy. Kids with less money are more likely to take the money and run, presumably turning down higher ranked schools in the process. I see a kid going to VCU for its guaranteed medical school admissions program under a presidential scholarship for example — you have to assume he had other very good options.

I’m impressed with the kid who is going to Grinnell to play baseball and major in philosophy. That’s an interesting choice for a TJ grad!

The lesson here is to get out of your bubble. You don’t know the circumstances of any of these kids — nor do you know what schools they turned down or their reasons.

To be fair paying for college was always an issue at TJ. These are not kids from wealthy families, the parking lot was full of Honda not BMWs. Middle class and upper middle class families. Parents typically drew a paycheck.

If you have enough money to buy your kid a car, even a Honda, then you’re doing ok.

The fact remains…there are significantly more kids at TJ now who come from lower-income families. And that is likely to shift college outcomes.

Doing ok is sort of the definition of middle class. And academic ability is what is driving the college admissions drop.

Stuyvesant has 50% free and reduced lunch. Their college outcomes are much better than TJ. We are just not selecting the smartest poor kids. We are selecting them too randomly.

Because of the essay writing test? BTW, how do the committee tell whether a student lies in the essay. For example, a student can pretend to be a Science Olympiad gold medalist in the essay? It is safe because Science Olympiad doesn't publish award winner's name.

They don't really seem to be paying that much attention. The class of 2027 at woodson includes a kid that developed a treatment for skin cancer and he didn't get in. The selection seems sort of random and haphazard. They are not concerned with merit, they are concerned with representation.

How is Woodson 2029 Class admission? I hope the strong STEM Woodson kids get in their dream Colleges.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no connection to TJ at all. None. It sure looks like an impressive list to me. There are plenty of kids going to top STEM schools, which is TJ’s focus, and they’re being smart in their choices. Purdue, Michigan, Maryland etc.

You’re also not taking into account the increased economic diversity in the school that I have to assume is one of the results of the new admissions policy. Kids with less money are more likely to take the money and run, presumably turning down higher ranked schools in the process. I see a kid going to VCU for its guaranteed medical school admissions program under a presidential scholarship for example — you have to assume he had other very good options.

I’m impressed with the kid who is going to Grinnell to play baseball and major in philosophy. That’s an interesting choice for a TJ grad!

The lesson here is to get out of your bubble. You don’t know the circumstances of any of these kids — nor do you know what schools they turned down or their reasons.

To be fair paying for college was always an issue at TJ. These are not kids from wealthy families, the parking lot was full of Honda not BMWs. Middle class and upper middle class families. Parents typically drew a paycheck.

If you have enough money to buy your kid a car, even a Honda, then you’re doing ok.

The fact remains…there are significantly more kids at TJ now who come from lower-income families. And that is likely to shift college outcomes.

Doing ok is sort of the definition of middle class. And academic ability is what is driving the college admissions drop.

Stuyvesant has 50% free and reduced lunch. Their college outcomes are much better than TJ. We are just not selecting the smartest poor kids. We are selecting them too randomly.

Because of the essay writing test? BTW, how do the committee tell whether a student lies in the essay. For example, a student can pretend to be a Science Olympiad gold medalist in the essay? It is safe because Science Olympiad doesn't publish award winner's name.

They don't really seem to be paying that much attention. The class of 2027 at woodson includes a kid that developed a treatment for skin cancer and he didn't get in. The selection seems sort of random and haphazard. They are not concerned with merit, they are concerned with representation.

Anonymous wrote:yes as a parent of class 2026, i am concerned seeing the number of students going to UVA and VT. How accurate is the list?

This is what was published in TJ Today. The rest of the list (apologies for any duplicates from originally posted list):

Cal Tech - 1
Harvey Mudd- 1
Berkley- 2
UC Davis - 1
UCLA- 4
UCSD- 2
UCSC- 1
USC - 1
Arizona State - 1
Creighton - 1
Emory - 1
Georgia Tech - 2
Case Western - 1
UW - 1
UC Boulder - 2
Indiana - 4
Bowdoin - 1
Texas Tech - 2
Rice - 2
UT Austin - 1
BYU - 1
Wash U - 3
Illinois - 7
Univ of Delaware - 1
Naval Academy - 2
Maryland - 16
Alabama - 1
Amherst - 1
Babson - 1
Northeastern - 3
Tufts - 1
Williams - 1
Vandy - 1
Pace - 1
Renssealear - 1
Barnard - 1
Stony Brook - 2
Clemson - 1
Lehigh - 1
Penn State - 9
Pitt - 3
UNC Raleigh - 1
Rutgers - 1
Florida A & T - 1
FIT - 1
FSU - 1
UCF - 1
Florida - 2
South Florida - 3
American - 2
GW - 3
Western Gov University (online) - 1
Univ of Toronto - 1
Curtin University (AUS) - 1
Katholieke Universiteit Leuvec - 1
U of Edinburgh - 1
Northeastern U London - 1
Oxford - 1
Marymount - 1
Liberty 1
VCU - 5
Mary Washington - 1


Total reporting: 269

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Anonymous wrote:I have no connection to TJ at all. None. It sure looks like an impressive list to me. There are plenty of kids going to top STEM schools, which is TJ’s focus, and they’re being smart in their choices. Purdue, Michigan, Maryland etc.

You’re also not taking into account the increased economic diversity in the school that I have to assume is one of the results of the new admissions policy. Kids with less money are more likely to take the money and run, presumably turning down higher ranked schools in the process. I see a kid going to VCU for its guaranteed medical school admissions program under a presidential scholarship for example — you have to assume he had other very good options.

I’m impressed with the kid who is going to Grinnell to play baseball and major in philosophy. That’s an interesting choice for a TJ grad!

The lesson here is to get out of your bubble. You don’t know the circumstances of any of these kids — nor do you know what schools they turned down or their reasons.

To be fair paying for college was always an issue at TJ. These are not kids from wealthy families, the parking lot was full of Honda not BMWs. Middle class and upper middle class families. Parents typically drew a paycheck.

If you have enough money to buy your kid a car, even a Honda, then you’re doing ok.

The fact remains…there are significantly more kids at TJ now who come from lower-income families. And that is likely to shift college outcomes.

Doing ok is sort of the definition of middle class. And academic ability is what is driving the college admissions drop.

Stuyvesant has 50% free and reduced lunch. Their college outcomes are much better than TJ. We are just not selecting the smartest poor kids. We are selecting them too randomly.

Because of the essay writing test? BTW, how do the committee tell whether a student lies in the essay. For example, a student can pretend to be a Science Olympiad gold medalist in the essay? It is safe because Science Olympiad doesn't publish award winner's name.

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Anonymous wrote:Not impressive and definitely a change from previous years. A sampling from the print Senior edition of TJ Today:

UVA - 20
VT - 13
W&M - 14
GMU - 21

Georgetown - 8
Princeton - 4
Duke - 2
Chapel Hill - 1
Carnegie Mellon - 4
Penn - 4
Cornell - 5
MIT - 2
Harvard - 5
Chicago - 9
Purdue - 19
Michigan - 5
Stanford - 1

These numbers, for some schools at least, are markedly different from past years. Any chance you could back these up by uploading a scan on imgur?

The senior edition was not as complete this year. Many TJ students know about DCUM now and don't want to be stalked. So no scan please. They are young people who want privacy.

yes as a parent of class 2026, i am concerned seeing the number of students going to UVA and VT. How accurate is the list?

Anonymous wrote:Not impressive and definitely a change from previous years. A sampling from the print Senior edition of TJ Today:

UVA - 20
VT - 13
W&M - 14
GMU - 21

Georgetown - 8
Princeton - 4
Duke - 2
Chapel Hill - 1
Carnegie Mellon - 4
Penn - 4
Cornell - 5
MIT - 2
Harvard - 5
Chicago - 9
Purdue - 19
Michigan - 5
Stanford - 1

These numbers, for some schools at least, are markedly different from past years. Any chance you could back these up by uploading a scan on imgur?

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Anonymous wrote:I have no connection to TJ at all. None. It sure looks like an impressive list to me. There are plenty of kids going to top STEM schools, which is TJ’s focus, and they’re being smart in their choices. Purdue, Michigan, Maryland etc.

You’re also not taking into account the increased economic diversity in the school that I have to assume is one of the results of the new admissions policy. Kids with less money are more likely to take the money and run, presumably turning down higher ranked schools in the process. I see a kid going to VCU for its guaranteed medical school admissions program under a presidential scholarship for example — you have to assume he had other very good options.

I’m impressed with the kid who is going to Grinnell to play baseball and major in philosophy. That’s an interesting choice for a TJ grad!

The lesson here is to get out of your bubble. You don’t know the circumstances of any of these kids — nor do you know what schools they turned down or their reasons.

To be fair paying for college was always an issue at TJ. These are not kids from wealthy families, the parking lot was full of Honda not BMWs. Middle class and upper middle class families. Parents typically drew a paycheck.

If you have enough money to buy your kid a car, even a Honda, then you’re doing ok.

The fact remains…there are significantly more kids at TJ now who come from lower-income families. And that is likely to shift college outcomes.

Doing ok is sort of the definition of middle class. And academic ability is what is driving the college admissions drop.

Stuyvesant has 50% free and reduced lunch. Their college outcomes are much better than TJ. We are just not selecting the smartest poor kids. We are selecting them too randomly.

Anonymous wrote:Some good but not great TJ students got into better colleges because of sports and URM. That’s also how they got in to TJ so the colleges are not selecting based on academic merit.

I hate this new admissions process but it selects kids pretty randomly (there is some merit in the essay test, just not a lot). It is designed to increase racial diversity but it is race blind. It definitely doesn't favor athletes.

I'm just keeping or side of the debate honest in the hopes that the folks on the other side will try to do the same.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no connection to TJ at all. None. It sure looks like an impressive list to me. There are plenty of kids going to top STEM schools, which is TJ’s focus, and they’re being smart in their choices. Purdue, Michigan, Maryland etc.

You’re also not taking into account the increased economic diversity in the school that I have to assume is one of the results of the new admissions policy. Kids with less money are more likely to take the money and run, presumably turning down higher ranked schools in the process. I see a kid going to VCU for its guaranteed medical school admissions program under a presidential scholarship for example — you have to assume he had other very good options.

I’m impressed with the kid who is going to Grinnell to play baseball and major in philosophy. That’s an interesting choice for a TJ grad!

The lesson here is to get out of your bubble. You don’t know the circumstances of any of these kids — nor do you know what schools they turned down or their reasons.

To be fair paying for college was always an issue at TJ. These are not kids from wealthy families, the parking lot was full of Honda not BMWs. Middle class and upper middle class families. Parents typically drew a paycheck.

If you have enough money to buy your kid a car, even a Honda, then you’re doing ok.

The fact remains…there are significantly more kids at TJ now who come from lower-income families. And that is likely to shift college outcomes.

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Anonymous wrote:DD who goes to TJ was just talking about a HS friend who got into Penn, CMU and is going to Mason because $$. Where they are going isn’t only where they got in.

But why would she have applied to these other schools then? With GMU’s acceptance rate, it was a sure thing.

? That’s a dumb question. Obviously they were hoping they would get enough aid to make it possible.

The real question is if they could have achieved something even better at base.

Better than Penn or CMU?

Some good but not great TJ students got into better colleges because of sports and URM. That’s also how they got in to TJ so the colleges are not selecting based on academic merit.

How did Mclean and Langley fare this year compared to TJ?

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Anonymous wrote:Not impressive and definitely a change from previous years. A sampling from the print Senior edition of TJ Today:

UVA - 20
VT - 13
W&M - 14
GMU - 21

Georgetown - 8
Princeton - 4
Duke - 2
Chapel Hill - 1
Carnegie Mellon - 4
Penn - 4
Cornell - 5
MIT - 2
Harvard - 5
Chicago - 9
Purdue - 19
Michigan - 5
Stanford - 1

As usual, it was missing a huge number of entries.

It's low compared to the insta from last year

Anonymous wrote:I have no connection to TJ at all. None. It sure looks like an impressive list to me. There are plenty of kids going to top STEM schools, which is TJ’s focus, and they’re being smart in their choices. Purdue, Michigan, Maryland etc.

You’re also not taking into account the increased economic diversity in the school that I have to assume is one of the results of the new admissions policy. Kids with less money are more likely to take the money and run, presumably turning down higher ranked schools in the process. I see a kid going to VCU for its guaranteed medical school admissions program under a presidential scholarship for example — you have to assume he had other very good options.

I’m impressed with the kid who is going to Grinnell to play baseball and major in philosophy. That’s an interesting choice for a TJ grad!

The lesson here is to get out of your bubble. You don’t know the circumstances of any of these kids — nor do you know what schools they turned down or their reasons.

To be fair paying for college was always an issue at TJ. These are not kids from wealthy families, the parking lot was full of Honda not BMWs. Middle class and upper middle class families. Parents typically drew a paycheck.