Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is okay with the attacks that happened on law enforcement officers on J6, so your argument kind of falls flat. The issue with the J6 prosecutions is they had people serving literally years in jail on trespassing charges (not assault-- trespassing). This is hard to justify on its own, but then there's some circumstantial evidence that some of them did not understand they were trespassing (eg, guards waved them in, gave tours, etc). Under no circumstances should this be equated with being okay with violence against the Capitol Police or any other LEOs. People who assault our public servants should be prosecuted fully and should not receive any public sympathy regardless of what political side they claim to support.
You're a nutter and unpatriotic.
+1 traitor — the police were not effing giving tours that day. People were scaling the walls and going through windows. There crossed police barricades. Anyone climbing through a window knows they were trespassing. It was obvious and you know it.
If I'm right and your wrong, what does that mean about your information environment?
Absolutely no one walked into the Capitol building on January 6th unaware of what they were doing. No one.
Watch the tapes and draw your own conclusions. I saw video of the Capitol Police waving their arms in a welcoming gesture. Which is what police training at the time would have favored-- deescalation tactics. Remember that these police spent the summer before guarding the Capitol during the BLM riots and were instructed to deescalate. That's what they did on J6 and it was good police work. But to the protesters, being waved in and given a tour could absolutely be mistaken for being welcome. In any case-- even if I were wrong on this point, which I'm not, there's a huge difference between trespassing and assaulting LEOs. People who assault LEOs should have enhanced prison sentences.
The Capitol Police did an excellent job of protecting the lives and safety of the insurrectionists, which is to be commended.
No one there is as gullible as you, though. The J6ers knew the date and why they were there, to interrupt the vote certification and change it.
Even if what you're saying is right, which its not-- how does this justify the left assaulting LEOs?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the agitators in CA need to be arrested. I also wanted every J6er that attacked law enforcement prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The last thing I wanted was for them to be pardoned.
We can all agree that the browsnshirt ICE "agents" should be atrested.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is okay with the attacks that happened on law enforcement officers on J6, so your argument kind of falls flat. The issue with the J6 prosecutions is they had people serving literally years in jail on trespassing charges (not assault-- trespassing). This is hard to justify on its own, but then there's some circumstantial evidence that some of them did not understand they were trespassing (eg, guards waved them in, gave tours, etc). Under no circumstances should this be equated with being okay with violence against the Capitol Police or any other LEOs. People who assault our public servants should be prosecuted fully and should not receive any public sympathy regardless of what political side they claim to support.
You're a nutter and unpatriotic.
+1 traitor — the police were not effing giving tours that day. People were scaling the walls and going through windows. There crossed police barricades. Anyone climbing through a window knows they were trespassing. It was obvious and you know it.
If I'm right and your wrong, what does that mean about your information environment?
You really have the nerve to double down. 😳 You’re not right. Period. The end.
And you have the nerve to support the idea that since some people assaulted police officers on J6, that the left should be able to attack them also? Like that makes any sense? Stunning lack of morality.
NP.
I think the point is that since all of the J6ers were pardoned, and we’re even willing to pay those who were clearly behaving illegally for the consequences of their actions, it is clear that violent insurrection is ok with the current Republican administration.
It’s not that it’s actually ok for liberals - it’s the fact that it is clearly ok for Republicans that is a problem.
I don't know how much clearer I can be: the J6 protesters who were in any way involved in violence against law enforcement should serve lengthy sentences in harsh conditions. There is no double standard here. I quite literally would be okay with death penalty for anyone who attacks a police officer, regardless of what "cause" they claimed to do it for.
And while I think putting people in prison for several years for trespassing is overkill, the standard has been set. The DOJ needs to use facial recognition on the crowds in LA and pursue the harshest punishments allowable by law for interfering with our democracy. If they so much as kicked a rock, I want to see them brought up on terrorism charges.
You sound unhinged. Isn't your last demand a bit extreme?
We put Glenn Beck watching grannies in prison for a long time for entering the Capitol and harming no one. There needs to be equality under the law.
Anonymous wrote:I think the agitators in CA need to be arrested. I also wanted every J6er that attacked law enforcement prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The last thing I wanted was for them to be pardoned.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is okay with the attacks that happened on law enforcement officers on J6, so your argument kind of falls flat. The issue with the J6 prosecutions is they had people serving literally years in jail on trespassing charges (not assault-- trespassing). This is hard to justify on its own, but then there's some circumstantial evidence that some of them did not understand they were trespassing (eg, guards waved them in, gave tours, etc). Under no circumstances should this be equated with being okay with violence against the Capitol Police or any other LEOs. People who assault our public servants should be prosecuted fully and should not receive any public sympathy regardless of what political side they claim to support.
You're a nutter and unpatriotic.
+1 traitor — the police were not effing giving tours that day. People were scaling the walls and going through windows. There crossed police barricades. Anyone climbing through a window knows they were trespassing. It was obvious and you know it.
If I'm right and your wrong, what does that mean about your information environment?
Absolutely no one walked into the Capitol building on January 6th unaware of what they were doing. No one.
Watch the tapes and draw your own conclusions. I saw video of the Capitol Police waving their arms in a welcoming gesture. Which is what police training at the time would have favored-- deescalation tactics. Remember that these police spent the summer before guarding the Capitol during the BLM riots and were instructed to deescalate. That's what they did on J6 and it was good police work. But to the protesters, being waved in and given a tour could absolutely be mistaken for being welcome. In any case-- even if I were wrong on this point, which I'm not, there's a huge difference between trespassing and assaulting LEOs. People who assault LEOs should have enhanced prison sentences.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is okay with the attacks that happened on law enforcement officers on J6, so your argument kind of falls flat. The issue with the J6 prosecutions is they had people serving literally years in jail on trespassing charges (not assault-- trespassing). This is hard to justify on its own, but then there's some circumstantial evidence that some of them did not understand they were trespassing (eg, guards waved them in, gave tours, etc). Under no circumstances should this be equated with being okay with violence against the Capitol Police or any other LEOs. People who assault our public servants should be prosecuted fully and should not receive any public sympathy regardless of what political side they claim to support.
Democrats:
Trespassing at the Capitol= years in prison 😡
Illegally entering the United States= gentle forehead kisses, a loaded EBT card, free healthcare and education. ❤️
Are you dumb? No one who enters the country illegally gets free healthcare or EBT cards.
Anonymous wrote:We're all just waiting for Trump to go away. Tiptoeing around January 6th, pretending it was NBD. When he is gone, then everyone will condemn it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is okay with the attacks that happened on law enforcement officers on J6, so your argument kind of falls flat. The issue with the J6 prosecutions is they had people serving literally years in jail on trespassing charges (not assault-- trespassing). This is hard to justify on its own, but then there's some circumstantial evidence that some of them did not understand they were trespassing (eg, guards waved them in, gave tours, etc). Under no circumstances should this be equated with being okay with violence against the Capitol Police or any other LEOs. People who assault our public servants should be prosecuted fully and should not receive any public sympathy regardless of what political side they claim to support.
Democrats:
Trespassing at the Capitol= years in prison 😡
Illegally entering the United States= gentle forehead kisses, a loaded EBT card, free healthcare and education. ❤️
Anonymous wrote:Really all the statements about how attacks on law enforcement will not be tolerated - which of course they should not - make me ill when they are being uttered by the same people who are okay with pardoning the J6 rioters who violently attacked law enforcement protecting the Capitol. WTAF.
Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is okay with the attacks that happened on law enforcement officers on J6, so your argument kind of falls flat. The issue with the J6 prosecutions is they had people serving literally years in jail on trespassing charges (not assault-- trespassing). This is hard to justify on its own, but then there's some circumstantial evidence that some of them did not understand they were trespassing (eg, guards waved them in, gave tours, etc). Under no circumstances should this be equated with being okay with violence against the Capitol Police or any other LEOs. People who assault our public servants should be prosecuted fully and should not receive any public sympathy regardless of what political side they claim to support.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is okay with the attacks that happened on law enforcement officers on J6, so your argument kind of falls flat. The issue with the J6 prosecutions is they had people serving literally years in jail on trespassing charges (not assault-- trespassing). This is hard to justify on its own, but then there's some circumstantial evidence that some of them did not understand they were trespassing (eg, guards waved them in, gave tours, etc). Under no circumstances should this be equated with being okay with violence against the Capitol Police or any other LEOs. People who assault our public servants should be prosecuted fully and should not receive any public sympathy regardless of what political side they claim to support.
You're a nutter and unpatriotic.
+1 traitor — the police were not effing giving tours that day. People were scaling the walls and going through windows. There crossed police barricades. Anyone climbing through a window knows they were trespassing. It was obvious and you know it.
If I'm right and your wrong, what does that mean about your information environment?
You really have the nerve to double down. 😳 You’re not right. Period. The end.
And you have the nerve to support the idea that since some people assaulted police officers on J6, that the left should be able to attack them also? Like that makes any sense? Stunning lack of morality.
NP.
I think the point is that since all of the J6ers were pardoned, and we’re even willing to pay those who were clearly behaving illegally for the consequences of their actions, it is clear that violent insurrection is ok with the current Republican administration.
It’s not that it’s actually ok for liberals - it’s the fact that it is clearly ok for Republicans that is a problem.
I don't know how much clearer I can be: the J6 protesters who were in any way involved in violence against law enforcement should serve lengthy sentences in harsh conditions. There is no double standard here. I quite literally would be okay with death penalty for anyone who attacks a police officer, regardless of what "cause" they claimed to do it for.
And while I think putting people in prison for several years for trespassing is overkill, the standard has been set. The DOJ needs to use facial recognition on the crowds in LA and pursue the harshest punishments allowable by law for interfering with our democracy. If they so much as kicked a rock, I want to see them brought up on terrorism charges.
I was in the Er with my husband and this 14 year old girl was drunk and under police control because she hit a police officer. I think you are a black and white thinker and you should see that one size almost never fits all. Live a little, embrace the fact that situations are different and call for different punishments.
Yes, different standards for juveniles. And my preferences around criminal punishments are shaped by my years in the Middle East. Since you're wanting to "globalize the intifada," and more and more Arabic cultural concepts are in the mainstream since Palestine is the cause de jour, you'll eventually see it my way.
Anonymous wrote:NP and native Washingtonian - I invite anyone who claims that the rioters were on an unticketed tour to go to the Capitol any weekday and just try to walk on with a flagpole and see how far you get.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is okay with the attacks that happened on law enforcement officers on J6, so your argument kind of falls flat. The issue with the J6 prosecutions is they had people serving literally years in jail on trespassing charges (not assault-- trespassing). This is hard to justify on its own, but then there's some circumstantial evidence that some of them did not understand they were trespassing (eg, guards waved them in, gave tours, etc). Under no circumstances should this be equated with being okay with violence against the Capitol Police or any other LEOs. People who assault our public servants should be prosecuted fully and should not receive any public sympathy regardless of what political side they claim to support.
You're a nutter and unpatriotic.
+1 traitor — the police were not effing giving tours that day. People were scaling the walls and going through windows. There crossed police barricades. Anyone climbing through a window knows they were trespassing. It was obvious and you know it.
If I'm right and your wrong, what does that mean about your information environment?
You really have the nerve to double down. 😳 You’re not right. Period. The end.
And you have the nerve to support the idea that since some people assaulted police officers on J6, that the left should be able to attack them also? Like that makes any sense? Stunning lack of morality.
NP.
I think the point is that since all of the J6ers were pardoned, and we’re even willing to pay those who were clearly behaving illegally for the consequences of their actions, it is clear that violent insurrection is ok with the current Republican administration.
It’s not that it’s actually ok for liberals - it’s the fact that it is clearly ok for Republicans that is a problem.
I don't know how much clearer I can be: the J6 protesters who were in any way involved in violence against law enforcement should serve lengthy sentences in harsh conditions. There is no double standard here. I quite literally would be okay with death penalty for anyone who attacks a police officer, regardless of what "cause" they claimed to do it for.
And while I think putting people in prison for several years for trespassing is overkill, the standard has been set. The DOJ needs to use facial recognition on the crowds in LA and pursue the harshest punishments allowable by law for interfering with our democracy. If they so much as kicked a rock, I want to see them brought up on terrorism charges.
The J6ers are all pardoned.
But you are also saying that participating in an insurrection on the date of the vote certification by going into the Capitol building to disrupt and change the vote certification is the same as protesting ICE removals. It's hard to take anything you say seriously, if you believe those two events are equivalent.
They are absolutely equivalent. Our politicians are not some elite class that need more protection than our police.
Our government, and counting votes in our democratic elections, is fundamental to this country. Every single one of us knows this.
They are ineffectual if the laws are not enforced.
But moreover, this isn't 1700 Great Britian. We are not their subjects. They are a government "of the people" and are not elites with special protections.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is okay with the attacks that happened on law enforcement officers on J6, so your argument kind of falls flat. The issue with the J6 prosecutions is they had people serving literally years in jail on trespassing charges (not assault-- trespassing). This is hard to justify on its own, but then there's some circumstantial evidence that some of them did not understand they were trespassing (eg, guards waved them in, gave tours, etc). Under no circumstances should this be equated with being okay with violence against the Capitol Police or any other LEOs. People who assault our public servants should be prosecuted fully and should not receive any public sympathy regardless of what political side they claim to support.
You're a nutter and unpatriotic.
+1 traitor — the police were not effing giving tours that day. People were scaling the walls and going through windows. There crossed police barricades. Anyone climbing through a window knows they were trespassing. It was obvious and you know it.
If I'm right and your wrong, what does that mean about your information environment?
You really have the nerve to double down. 😳 You’re not right. Period. The end.
And you have the nerve to support the idea that since some people assaulted police officers on J6, that the left should be able to attack them also? Like that makes any sense? Stunning lack of morality.
NP.
I think the point is that since all of the J6ers were pardoned, and we’re even willing to pay those who were clearly behaving illegally for the consequences of their actions, it is clear that violent insurrection is ok with the current Republican administration.
It’s not that it’s actually ok for liberals - it’s the fact that it is clearly ok for Republicans that is a problem.
I don't know how much clearer I can be: the J6 protesters who were in any way involved in violence against law enforcement should serve lengthy sentences in harsh conditions. There is no double standard here. I quite literally would be okay with death penalty for anyone who attacks a police officer, regardless of what "cause" they claimed to do it for.
And while I think putting people in prison for several years for trespassing is overkill, the standard has been set. The DOJ needs to use facial recognition on the crowds in LA and pursue the harshest punishments allowable by law for interfering with our democracy. If they so much as kicked a rock, I want to see them brought up on terrorism charges.
I was in the Er with my husband and this 14 year old girl was drunk and under police control because she hit a police officer. I think you are a black and white thinker and you should see that one size almost never fits all. Live a little, embrace the fact that situations are different and call for different punishments.
Yes, different standards for juveniles. And my preferences around criminal punishments are shaped by my years in the Middle East. Since you're wanting to "globalize the intifada," and more and more Arabic cultural concepts are in the mainstream since Palestine is the cause de jour, you'll eventually see it my way.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone is okay with the attacks that happened on law enforcement officers on J6, so your argument kind of falls flat. The issue with the J6 prosecutions is they had people serving literally years in jail on trespassing charges (not assault-- trespassing). This is hard to justify on its own, but then there's some circumstantial evidence that some of them did not understand they were trespassing (eg, guards waved them in, gave tours, etc). Under no circumstances should this be equated with being okay with violence against the Capitol Police or any other LEOs. People who assault our public servants should be prosecuted fully and should not receive any public sympathy regardless of what political side they claim to support.
You're a nutter and unpatriotic.
+1 traitor — the police were not effing giving tours that day. People were scaling the walls and going through windows. There crossed police barricades. Anyone climbing through a window knows they were trespassing. It was obvious and you know it.
If I'm right and your wrong, what does that mean about your information environment?
You really have the nerve to double down. 😳 You’re not right. Period. The end.
And you have the nerve to support the idea that since some people assaulted police officers on J6, that the left should be able to attack them also? Like that makes any sense? Stunning lack of morality.
NP.
I think the point is that since all of the J6ers were pardoned, and we’re even willing to pay those who were clearly behaving illegally for the consequences of their actions, it is clear that violent insurrection is ok with the current Republican administration.
It’s not that it’s actually ok for liberals - it’s the fact that it is clearly ok for Republicans that is a problem.
I don't know how much clearer I can be: the J6 protesters who were in any way involved in violence against law enforcement should serve lengthy sentences in harsh conditions. There is no double standard here. I quite literally would be okay with death penalty for anyone who attacks a police officer, regardless of what "cause" they claimed to do it for.
And while I think putting people in prison for several years for trespassing is overkill, the standard has been set. The DOJ needs to use facial recognition on the crowds in LA and pursue the harshest punishments allowable by law for interfering with our democracy. If they so much as kicked a rock, I want to see them brought up on terrorism charges.
The J6ers are all pardoned.
But you are also saying that participating in an insurrection on the date of the vote certification by going into the Capitol building to disrupt and change the vote certification is the same as protesting ICE removals. It's hard to take anything you say seriously, if you believe those two events are equivalent.
They are absolutely equivalent. Our politicians are not some elite class that need more protection than our police.
Our government, and counting votes in our democratic elections, is fundamental to this country. Every single one of us knows this.