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Anonymous wrote:I obscenely believe this site has two disgruntled anti Israel posters who just post about Israel all day.

Wow, how surprising that a bunch of people who never through about Israel prior to october 2023 and who only read headlines have a less favorable opinion of Israel now.

Most people don’t care or know about Israel the same way they only care about Ukraine or any other foreign wars on a very surface level. Except for the two rabid posters on dcum who start every other thread about Israeli war crimes and Palestinian suffering (while omitting Palestinian terrorism and dismissing antisemitism in the US)

Might be that people think that genocide is bad and want to speak up about it. Otherwise, they would be no different than people who remained silent during the other holocaust.

Wrong. Today both sides are guilty of atrocities.

Yes, but one side is exceptionally more guilty of far greater, far bigger, far numerous, far more weaponized and far more systemic atrocities against humanity.

Exactly. The Palestinians don’t have tanks. They don’t have warplanes. They don’t have aerial bombs. They don’t have precision weapons. They don’t even have a well-trained military. You know who does have all that thanks to the US? Israel.

Anonymous wrote:Right, because the Arab armies didn’t try to push Israel into the sea. I understand why the Arabs did what they did, but they lost and the Nakba was the consequence. War is war is war. Bad things happen when people insist on using violence to solve problems. You just don’t like that your side lost.

Israel might be going too far right now, but it’s still tame compared to most everything from history. It’s still tame compared to other things going on right now. You want starvation? Go weep over Yemen. That’s a real famine.

But you won’t because you don’t care about Yemen. Just like most people don’t care about this conflict beyond a surface level. Blah blah blah spare me. Opinions are bad right now while Israel is in the news, but that’s temporary. Eventually it will go away and most people without a stake in it will move onto something else.

Disagree. Thanks to social media, western people see in real time what Israel does to Palestinians on a daily basis. You know who sees it too? The 2 billion Muslims on this earth.

Anonymous wrote:Iraq? That was also their brainchild.

Another disaster for us. Our economy never recovered from that recession which was linked to the Iraq war and 2008 global oil crisis.

Iran has even more power over oil prices than Iraq. It would be a huge disaster if Trump listens to Israel and goes to war.

People might remember when Netanyahu and AIPAC were desperately lobbying congress to go to war with Iraq as in the video below. But they don't realize that Netanyahu had already had plans for war and regime change in Iraq in the 1990s.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PHzSr52fZLQ

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Anonymous wrote:I am not Jewish. I have a strong support for Israel as an independent, democratic nation. I'm not a fan of religious states, but understand the need here.

But I loathe Netanyahu. Just like I support the US and loathe Trump. I don't think polls pick up that type of nuance. For example, in this poll, if people were asked their opinion on Israel first, before understanding they could also provide opinion on political leadership, it might skew people toward more unfavorable ratings, simply because Netanyahu is a mess.

Israel being a democracy is one of the biggest hoaxes that is often repeated. Apartheid isn't democracy. And Arab citizens are discriminated against by more than 50 laws.

If you loathe Netanyahu, then you loathe the Israelis people who overwhelmingly support ethnic cleansing and genocide.

Agree, but Muslims horrifically protect child rape and treating women as property. Both sides are EVIL.

Is that different from Jews? Israel is doing that and worst. Jews blindly Supoort Israel’s genocide and rape as a weapon of terror.

The longer a conflict goes on, the uglier it gets, and the more willing people are to support things that they wouldn’t have before. By the end of WW2, the Allies were “terror bombing” entire cities, killing tens of thousands of civilians per night.

The Allies did not win WW2 with the massive bombing campaigns. All we did was tatter Europe so badly we needed a Marshall Plan. What hurt the Nazis was the ground war with Russia on the Eastern Front.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/06/03/most-people-across-24-surveyed-countries-have-negative-views-of-israel-and-netanyahu/

A slight majority of Americans (53%) have a very or somewhat unfavorable view of Israel. This rose 11% since 2022.

(I know the image is small, but you can also see it at the link above)

This is really nothing new. It’s been like this for decades.

There was a brief lull between the end of the Second Intifada and the recent flare up. I think younger people who grew up during this period often don’t realize that Israel is no more or less hated today than it was 25, 50, or 75 years ago.

I disagree. I think most people over the past 50 years have been broadly sympathetic to Israel. The memory of the Holocaust was fresher. And Palestinian terrorism has been in the news forever - from the Munich Olympic massacre to airplane hijackings to killing elderly cruise ship passengers to Black September and murdering the prime minister of Jordan to blowing up buses and restaurants to causing the civil war in Lebanon to siding with Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait and on and on and on. Be real. Palestinians embrace terror, and as a consequence they have no allies anywhere - except Iran.

When Hamas invaded Israel and committed all those atrocities, the world was broadly sympathetic with Israel. And most agreed that the destruction of Hamas was a just goal. Hamas declared war, and Israel responded accordingly. A military response was legitimate and people understood.

However, the Netanyahu government and the fringe right wing orthodox settler parties have been a disaster for Israel. Their cruelty and utter disregard for innocent civilians in Gaza has been noted by everyone. I am generally pro-Israel, but I am absolutely disgusted with Netanyahu, Likud, and Israelis generally. We are more than 18 months in. Gaza is destroyed. And the IDF is still killing people seeking food. It is appalling what Israel is doing now.

Palestinians need to get rid of Hamas. And Israelis need to get rid of Netanyahu and Likud. Obviously, the US should stop all military aid and support for Israel. Those planes and those bombs are all American planes and American bombs. That needs to end. The world needs to get it together and isolate Israel completely until they choose a different path. The right wing in Israel is genuinely evil - like Hamas.

Israel didnt even treat Yemeni Jews humanely. They stole their children and gave them to Askhenazi families to raise. That's the dirty secret as to why Israel bans DNA tests.

Iraq? That was also their brainchild.

Another disaster for us. Our economy never recovered from that recession which was linked to the Iraq war and 2008 global oil crisis.

Iran has even more power over oil prices than Iraq. It would be a huge disaster if Trump listens to Israel and goes to war.

Anonymous wrote:I am not Jewish. I have a strong support for Israel as an independent, democratic nation. I'm not a fan of religious states, but understand the need here.

But I loathe Netanyahu. Just like I support the US and loathe Trump. I don't think polls pick up that type of nuance. For example, in this poll, if people were asked their opinion on Israel first, before understanding they could also provide opinion on political leadership, it might skew people toward more unfavorable ratings, simply because Netanyahu is a mess.

Democratic like apartheid South Africa. Democratic like pre-1964 United States. Democracy Basically in name only when every citizen is not allowed to vote because of their race, ethnicity, or gender.

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Anonymous wrote:Murder of innocent people is never justified.

Except on October 7th, right?

It makes you look pretty evil to use October 7th to justify genocide.

this started way earlier than that. try 1948 and Israel terror, but ZIonists are pros at historical revisionism.

Mohammad Zarqa trembled with fear as he watched panicked crowds of people, screaming and covered in blood, rush into his small village on the outskirts of Jerusalem.

“You have to run,” he remembers a woman crying out, shocking Zarqa out of a daze and sending him racing home to warn his family. He was only 12 years old at the time, unaware of the looming war that would soon upend his life.

It was April 9, 1948, and Jewish militias had just attacked Deir Yassin, a village about a mile northeast of Zarqa’s home in Ein Karem in what was then the British Mandate of Palestine. At least 100 people, including women and children, were killed – many stripped, lined up and shot with automatic fire, according to reports from the time archived by the United Nations (https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-211346/)

The massacre is among the events that led to al-Nakba, or “the catastrophe,” when roughly 700,000 Palestinians fled or were expelled from their homes by armed Jewish groups seeking to establish the state of Israel.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/15/us/nakba-day-anniversary-palestinians/index.html

Only three years after Germany’s Holocaust. It didn’t take Jews long to become the animals that tortured their people. Sad.

One of the reasons with the sudden shift in how Israel is viewed is that we have so extensively studied the Holocaust and recognize it as evil. Now because we are all able to live-stream what is happening in Gaza, it is only natural that we can see the parallels especially with the weaponization of food and the forced starvation. Hitler's hunger plan is being repeated:

"In the Jewish ghettos, food was weaponised. Access to meat or bread was controlled. Shops were empty. Hunger was not a failure - it was policy.

'That we sentence 1.2 million Jews to die of hunger should be noted only marginally,' Hans Frank, the Nazi governor of occupied Poland, wrote in a diary entry.

Today, more than two million Palestinians in Gaza - the territory’s entire population - are being forced, by design, into famine. Not one million. Not most. All of them. Women and men, infants and the elderly. No one is spared."

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/war-gaza-how-israel-replicating-nazi-starvation-tactics

Iran, by comparison, is not a third world country.

Israel has brought us such bad luck in the region

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Anonymous wrote:Right, because the Arab armies didn’t try to push Israel into the sea. I understand why the Arabs did what they did, but they lost and the Nakba was the consequence. War is war is war. Bad things happen when people insist on using violence to solve problems. You just don’t like that your side lost.

Israel might be going too far right now, but it’s still tame compared to most everything from history. It’s still tame compared to other things going on right now. You want starvation? Go weep over Yemen. That’s a real famine.

But you won’t because you don’t care about Yemen. Just like most people don’t care about this conflict beyond a surface level. Blah blah blah spare me. Opinions are bad right now while Israel is in the news, but that’s temporary. Eventually it will go away and most people without a stake in it will move onto something else.

Are American taxpayers funding the animals committing genocide and starvation in Yemen. No, not equivalent

The Yemeni genocide and starvation is also linked to Israel. Israel is too scared to fight Iran so they are fighting the weakest and poorest link (Yemen) in the region indirectly along with the richest links/US Israeli GCC proxies and even hungry, they still beat down our planes and 500 billion dollars spent in war. How embarrassing. Trump gave the Houthis props and surrendered. Very very embarrassing for the US, Israel, and friends.

How can they face up in Iran when impoverished famine torn places Yemen, Somalia, Afghanistan, Gaza are unable to be successfully won?

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Anonymous wrote:Murder of innocent people is never justified.

Except on October 7th, right?

It makes you look pretty evil to use October 7th to justify genocide.

this started way earlier than that. try 1948 and Israel terror, but ZIonists are pros at historical revisionism.

Mohammad Zarqa trembled with fear as he watched panicked crowds of people, screaming and covered in blood, rush into his small village on the outskirts of Jerusalem.

“You have to run,” he remembers a woman crying out, shocking Zarqa out of a daze and sending him racing home to warn his family. He was only 12 years old at the time, unaware of the looming war that would soon upend his life.

It was April 9, 1948, and Jewish militias had just attacked Deir Yassin, a village about a mile northeast of Zarqa’s home in Ein Karem in what was then the British Mandate of Palestine. At least 100 people, including women and children, were killed – many stripped, lined up and shot with automatic fire, according to reports from the time archived by the United Nations (https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-211346/)

The massacre is among the events that led to al-Nakba, or “the catastrophe,” when roughly 700,000 Palestinians fled or were expelled from their homes by armed Jewish groups seeking to establish the state of Israel.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/15/us/nakba-day-anniversary-palestinians/index.html

Only three years after Germany’s Holocaust. It didn’t take Jews long to become the animals that tortured their people. Sad.

They didnt kill one nazi. Nazis are still alive. Still rich

Anonymous wrote:Right, because the Arab armies didn’t try to push Israel into the sea. I understand why the Arabs did what they did, but they lost and the Nakba was the consequence. War is war is war. Bad things happen when people insist on using violence to solve problems. You just don’t like that your side lost.

Israel might be going too far right now, but it’s still tame compared to most everything from history. It’s still tame compared to other things going on right now. You want starvation? Go weep over Yemen. That’s a real famine.

But you won’t because you don’t care about Yemen. Just like most people don’t care about this conflict beyond a surface level. Blah blah blah spare me. Opinions are bad right now while Israel is in the news, but that’s temporary. Eventually it will go away and most people without a stake in it will move onto something else.

Are American taxpayers funding the animals committing genocide and starvation in Yemen. No, not equivalent

Even Women in the IDF sexually assault Palestinian male prisoners.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not Jewish. I have a strong support for Israel as an independent, democratic nation. I'm not a fan of religious states, but understand the need here.

But I loathe Netanyahu. Just like I support the US and loathe Trump. I don't think polls pick up that type of nuance. For example, in this poll, if people were asked their opinion on Israel first, before understanding they could also provide opinion on political leadership, it might skew people toward more unfavorable ratings, simply because Netanyahu is a mess.

Israel being a democracy is one of the biggest hoaxes that is often repeated. Apartheid isn't democracy. And Arab citizens are discriminated against by more than 50 laws.

If you loathe Netanyahu, then you loathe the Israelis people who overwhelmingly support ethnic cleansing and genocide.

Agree, but Muslims horrifically protect child rape and treating women as property. Both sides are EVIL.

Is that different from Jews? Israel is doing that and worst. Jews blindly Supoort Israel’s genocide and rape as a weapon of terror.

The longer a conflict goes on, the uglier it gets, and the more willing people are to support things that they wouldn’t have before. By the end of WW2, the Allies were “terror bombing” entire cities, killing tens of thousands of civilians per night.