Well my “middling” student is going to one of these schools with merit and I can assure you that this child is much more likely to have a successful path than my other child who is at a school DCUM approves of. The insecurity on this board is pathetic. Glad at least one of my kids won’t be surrounded by a bunch of strivers with parents like you.

Anonymous wrote:OOS have a tougher time getting into these schools because they have caps on how many they can take.

I am shocked this isn't the primary discussion of this thread. For students from these states, these schools all remain solid safeties for good students and reasonable reaches for middling students. Which, frankly, is what a state flagship is for.

The reason people freak out about this is that it used to be the opposite -- it used to be almost easier to get into state flagships as an OOS student, especially if a well-resourced kid from the DMV with good grades/scores (not stellar, just solid) because these schools welcomed people willing to pay OOS rates. It helped subsidize programs. But as the overall number of college apps has exploded, schools have had to cap OOS admissions, which means the experience is the opposite -- instead of being easier to get into a state flagship from OOS because you pay full freight, it's now harder because you are competing against so many other OOS students and there are only so many spots.

It's frustrating to families from states like VA and MD where their own state flagships have become very competitive due to that same boost in applications, and are therefore hoping to grab that old OOS edge in another state. But it doesn't exist anymore. There are just too many kids with great stats applying to college, and applying more widely, and to many UMC and wealthy families willing to pay extra and to fund travel to far flung flagships in the hopes of getting a school with some kind of name brand.

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Anonymous wrote:No. It’s not. These are safeties for middling students. UM UVA are safeties for top students.

Middling students don’t take 11 AP classes.

Yes, they do. You sound like the kind of person who says a 1300 is impressive because it's "96th percentile" or whatever it is.

UGA is 1500+

It says here a quarter of the class is coming in with below a ~1200. And the 75th percentile is 1410, which is the 25th percentile at UVA and W&M.

https://oir.uga.edu/_resources/files/cds/UGA_CDS_2023-2024.pdf

Put down the pipe.

Look up this year’s stats, idiot.

Still 1300-1470. 1470 being the median at UVA and W&M.

https://news.uga.edu/uga-admits-class-of-2029/amp/

Again I implore you to put down the crack.

NP. I don’t have any dog in this fight, but you need to stop with the “put down the pipe/crack.” It wasn’t funny the first time; it is juvenile and does a disservice to your argument. Saying it a third time is pathetic. Not only that, who is referencing crack, grandma? There is a way to make your argument and not sound like a fifth grade boy from the eighties.

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Anonymous wrote:No. It’s not. These are safeties for middling students. UM UVA are safeties for top students.

Middling students don’t take 11 AP classes.

Yes, they do. You sound like the kind of person who says a 1300 is impressive because it's "96th percentile" or whatever it is.

UGA is 1500+

It says here a quarter of the class is coming in with below a ~1200. And the 75th percentile is 1410, which is the 25th percentile at UVA and W&M.

https://oir.uga.edu/_resources/files/cds/UGA_CDS_2023-2024.pdf

Put down the pipe.

Look up this year’s stats, idiot.

Still 1300-1470. 1470 being the median at UVA and W&M.

https://news.uga.edu/uga-admits-class-of-2029/amp/

Again I implore you to put down the crack.

UVA and W&M have been test optional for half a decade, it’s impossible to know what their true bottom 25th percentile actually is at this point.

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So glad you pointed this out. There is a poster who continually brays about the test scores at UVA and W&M - and they're TEST OPTIONAL. Who knows what their true bottom scores actually are.

But who cares if other stats indicate it’s a strong student?
The SAT is not a barometer of a student’s ability or future success.
It is truly an optional metric.

You've missed the point entirely. At test optional schools, they're only publishing the stats of those who submit. Huge numbers of kids go TO and we'll never know what their scores were, but they were likely FAR lower than what is published. Otherwise, they would have submitted. So the PP (you?) who is constantly touting the scores of UVA and W&M is really missing the forest for the trees.

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Anonymous wrote:We’re upstate NY. Strong public school. The kids here who go to Ohio State are definitely mid. Nice kids. A handful of APs but mostly good grades in regular classes. No clue about test scores, but they’re not the NMS commended kids.

And they are now having a great time and getting a strong education at a T50 school. Good for them!

I’m the PP. Absolutely!!!

OOS have a tougher time getting into these schools because they have caps on how many they can take.

Anonymous wrote:This site is sometimes great for info but the pettiness and name calling is really out of control. I can’t believe adults act like this about COLLEGES.

Agree. People calling each other " idiots" is infantile. The very top students go to elite universities and there are universities for all levels of students.

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Anonymous wrote:No. It’s not. These are safeties for middling students. UM UVA are safeties for top students.

Middling students don’t take 11 AP classes.

Yes, they do. You sound like the kind of person who says a 1300 is impressive because it's "96th percentile" or whatever it is.

UGA is 1500+

It says here a quarter of the class is coming in with below a ~1200. And the 75th percentile is 1410, which is the 25th percentile at UVA and W&M.

https://oir.uga.edu/_resources/files/cds/UGA_CDS_2023-2024.pdf

Put down the pipe.

Look up this year’s stats, idiot.

My kid got into UGA early action with a 1360

NP. This year? In state or out? My daughter was deferred to regular decision round with much higher scores so this surprises me.

But your kid got in right?

UGA has a 67% rejection rate

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Anonymous wrote:No. It’s not. These are safeties for middling students. UM UVA are safeties for top students.

Middling students don’t take 11 AP classes.

Yes, they do. You sound like the kind of person who says a 1300 is impressive because it's "96th percentile" or whatever it is.

UGA is 1500+

It says here a quarter of the class is coming in with below a ~1200. And the 75th percentile is 1410, which is the 25th percentile at UVA and W&M.

https://oir.uga.edu/_resources/files/cds/UGA_CDS_2023-2024.pdf

Put down the pipe.

Look up this year’s stats, idiot.

My kid got into UGA early action with a 1360

NP. This year? In state or out? My daughter was deferred to regular decision round with much higher scores so this surprises me.

But your kid got in right?

Anonymous wrote:I know of a 1330 who got into UGA after being waitlisted. Yes, 1330.

88th percentile. That’s not exactly terrible.

So what’s your point?

I know of a 1330 who got into UGA after being waitlisted. Yes, 1330.

Anonymous wrote:We’re upstate NY. Strong public school. The kids here who go to Ohio State are definitely mid. Nice kids. A handful of APs but mostly good grades in regular classes. No clue about test scores, but they’re not the NMS commended kids.

And they are now having a great time and getting a strong education at a T50 school. Good for them!

We’re upstate NY. Strong public school. The kids here who go to Ohio State are definitely mid. Nice kids. A handful of APs but mostly good grades in regular classes. No clue about test scores, but they’re not the NMS commended kids.

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Anonymous wrote:No. It’s not. These are safeties for middling students. UM UVA are safeties for top students.

Middling students don’t take 11 AP classes.

Yes, they do. You sound like the kind of person who says a 1300 is impressive because it's "96th percentile" or whatever it is.

UGA is 1500+

It says here a quarter of the class is coming in with below a ~1200. And the 75th percentile is 1410, which is the 25th percentile at UVA and W&M.

https://oir.uga.edu/_resources/files/cds/UGA_CDS_2023-2024.pdf

Put down the pipe.

Look up this year’s stats, idiot.

My kid got into UGA early action with a 1360

NP. This year? In state or out? My daughter was deferred to regular decision round with much higher scores so this surprises me.

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Anonymous wrote:This site is sometimes great for info but the pettiness and name calling is really out of control. I can’t believe adults act like this about COLLEGES.

Not all adults. Most of us are just happy to support our kids and our friends’ kids and we don’t care about the prestige of the college. We know it doesn’t matter in the long run.

But I agree that there’s a percentage of posters on this particular site who think “top” schools matter.

I wouldn't even go that far. My kids only and tight lipped about everyone else.