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Anonymous wrote:Why are people so quick to dismiss this? Africa has a long history of racial tension, and intra-racial ethnic tension. South Africa is perhaps the most famous example, and it's not exactly a secret that the black and white South Africans have beef. I once worked overseas with white South Africans, and they were all working to get UK citizenship due to government persecution (and many of them were successful).

There's a long history of race-based attacks on African farmers, not just in SA but also in Zimbabwe and other countries. So this all fits the fact pattern. Add onto it that our own state department acknowledges that reports of government violence are credible. Here's a report from 2023, so it cant be accused of being "manipulated" by the Trump administration: https://www.state.gov/reports/2023-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/south-africa/

There's only one reason you're fighting this, and that's because the victims are white. Full stop. It's so transparent.

I have known a number of South Africans who are white, and most of them told me they are trying to get friends and family out of SA.

I also knew a family who escaped Zimbabwe after their family farm was attacked and confiscated; the government condoned it and the family lost everything.

Things are not OK in South Africa, as much as many in the U.S. and EU want to pretend otherwise.

South Africa is not Zimbabwe, but whites have been trying to conflate what happened in Zimbabwe with violence against white farmers in SA since apartheid ended.

And yes, SA has a very high crime rate. I lived there from '05-'07 and almost every South African had a story of being robbed, home invasions. Criminal gangs would hit a mall, clean out a jewelry store, and sometimes that would involved someone being shot and killed. I was on a safari and the front desk of the lodge was robbed right before we returned from an evening drive. There is a lot of crime there and yes, a lot of it happens to whites. Not necessarily because they are white but BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE MONEY. Crime also happens to wealthy and middle class black South Africans too. And I honestly think many of you would be amazed at the high standard of living you can attain in South Africa with a little bit of money.

But all of that is a very far cry from a government-sponsored white genocide that would necessitate refugee status for Afrikaners. That's not happening. And that's the the whole point that people are making.

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why is pointing out that he was using photos from a massacre in the DRC outrage? people are pointing out facts.

Because it wasn't just a photo of DRC, but a photo of the whole article. The article discusses South Africa and DRC(PRC in the article).
The media are taking that one photo and trying to claim Trump put up a fake picture. They aren't even mentioning the site or linking the article.

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why is pointing out that he was using photos from a massacre in the DRC outrage? people are pointing out facts.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine being SO stupid that you think a bunch of white sticks in the ground that are supposed to look like gravestones are real and are marking actual graves in some random field.

I’ll freely admit I’m not sure exactly what those tombstones are supposed to represent, but I know it’s not an actual cemetery. But apparently Orange Fatso couldn’t deduce that.

Imagine being that dumb.

And now remember that that’s our president.

Imagine being so dumb that you get confused and use clips of Malema, who's a member of the opposition, to attack Ramaphosa, who went out of his way to be inclusive, include Afrikaners in his government in key positions, to be anti-racist and so on. To Trump and his staffers I guess all blacks look alike?

This Presidency is the dumbest of our lifetimes.

It's striking how every single world leader he sits down with is leagues smarter and more knowledgeable than him. All we have is a senile old man spouting lies and conspiracy theories he found online.

Well, representatives of this country’s largest voting demographic supposedly vote for the candidates that they would most like to have a beer with, soooo…

Is that how we ended up electing the guy who doesn't drink?

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine being SO stupid that you think a bunch of white sticks in the ground that are supposed to look like gravestones are real and are marking actual graves in some random field.

I’ll freely admit I’m not sure exactly what those tombstones are supposed to represent, but I know it’s not an actual cemetery. But apparently Orange Fatso couldn’t deduce that.

Imagine being that dumb.

And now remember that that’s our president.

Imagine being so dumb that you get confused and use clips of Malema, who's a member of the opposition, to attack Ramaphosa, who went out of his way to be inclusive, include Afrikaners in his government in key positions, to be anti-racist and so on. To Trump and his staffers I guess all blacks look alike?

This Presidency is the dumbest of our lifetimes.

It's striking how every single world leader he sits down with is leagues smarter and more knowledgeable than him. All we have is a senile old man spouting lies and conspiracy theories he found online.

Well, representatives of this country’s largest voting demographic supposedly vote for the candidates that they would most like to have a beer with, soooo…

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are people so quick to dismiss this? Africa has a long history of racial tension, and intra-racial ethnic tension. South Africa is perhaps the most famous example, and it's not exactly a secret that the black and white South Africans have beef. I once worked overseas with white South Africans, and they were all working to get UK citizenship due to government persecution (and many of them were successful).

There's a long history of race-based attacks on African farmers, not just in SA but also in Zimbabwe and other countries. So this all fits the fact pattern. Add onto it that our own state department acknowledges that reports of government violence are credible. Here's a report from 2023, so it cant be accused of being "manipulated" by the Trump administration: https://www.state.gov/reports/2023-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/south-africa/

There's only one reason you're fighting this, and that's because the victims are white. Full stop. It's so transparent.

I have known a number of South Africans who are white, and most of them told me they are trying to get friends and family out of SA.

I also knew a family who escaped Zimbabwe after their family farm was attacked and confiscated; the government condoned it and the family lost everything.

Things are not OK in South Africa, as much as many in the U.S. and EU want to pretend otherwise.

South Africa is not Zimbabwe, but whites have been trying to conflate what happened in Zimbabwe with violence against white farmers in SA since apartheid ended.

And yes, SA has a very high crime rate. I lived there from '05-'07 and almost every South African had a story of being robbed, home invasions. Criminal gangs would hit a mall, clean out a jewelry store, and sometimes that would involved someone being shot and killed. I was on a safari and the front desk of the lodge was robbed right before we returned from an evening drive. There is a lot of crime there and yes, a lot of it happens to whites. Not necessarily because they are white but BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE MONEY. Crime also happens to wealthy and middle class black South Africans too. And I honestly think many of you would be amazed at the high standard of living you can attain in South Africa with a little bit of money.

But all of that is a very far cry from a government-sponsored white genocide that would necessitate refugee status for Afrikaners. That's not happening. And that's the the whole point that people are making.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are people so quick to dismiss this? Africa has a long history of racial tension, and intra-racial ethnic tension. South Africa is perhaps the most famous example, and it's not exactly a secret that the black and white South Africans have beef. I once worked overseas with white South Africans, and they were all working to get UK citizenship due to government persecution (and many of them were successful).

There's a long history of race-based attacks on African farmers, not just in SA but also in Zimbabwe and other countries. So this all fits the fact pattern. Add onto it that our own state department acknowledges that reports of government violence are credible. Here's a report from 2023, so it cant be accused of being "manipulated" by the Trump administration: https://www.state.gov/reports/2023-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/south-africa/

There's only one reason you're fighting this, and that's because the victims are white. Full stop. It's so transparent.

I have known a number of South Africans who are white, and most of them told me they are trying to get friends and family out of SA.

I also knew a family who escaped Zimbabwe after their family farm was attacked and confiscated; the government condoned it and the family lost everything.

Things are not OK in South Africa, as much as many in the U.S. and EU want to pretend otherwise.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine being SO stupid that you think a bunch of white sticks in the ground that are supposed to look like gravestones are real and are marking actual graves in some random field.

I’ll freely admit I’m not sure exactly what those tombstones are supposed to represent, but I know it’s not an actual cemetery. But apparently Orange Fatso couldn’t deduce that.

Imagine being that dumb.

And now remember that that’s our president.

Imagine being so dumb that you get confused and use clips of Malema, who's a member of the opposition, to attack Ramaphosa, who went out of his way to be inclusive, include Afrikaners in his government in key positions, to be anti-racist and so on. To Trump and his staffers I guess all blacks look alike?

This Presidency is the dumbest of our lifetimes.

It's striking how every single world leader he sits down with is leagues smarter and more knowledgeable than him. All we have is a senile old man spouting lies and conspiracy theories he found online.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine being SO stupid that you think a bunch of white sticks in the ground that are supposed to look like gravestones are real and are marking actual graves in some random field.

I’ll freely admit I’m not sure exactly what those tombstones are supposed to represent, but I know it’s not an actual cemetery. But apparently Orange Fatso couldn’t deduce that.

Imagine being that dumb.

And now remember that that’s our president.

Imagine being so dumb that you get confused and use clips of Malema, who's a member of the opposition, to attack Ramaphosa, who went out of his way to be inclusive, include Afrikaners in his government in key positions, to be anti-racist and so on. To Trump and his staffers I guess all blacks look alike?

This Presidency is the dumbest of our lifetimes.

It's striking how every single world leader he sits down with is leagues smarter and more knowledgeable than him. All we have is a senile old man spouting lies and conspiracy theories he found online.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are people so quick to dismiss this? Africa has a long history of racial tension, and intra-racial ethnic tension. South Africa is perhaps the most famous example, and it's not exactly a secret that the black and white South Africans have beef. I once worked overseas with white South Africans, and they were all working to get UK citizenship due to government persecution (and many of them were successful).

There's a long history of race-based attacks on African farmers, not just in SA but also in Zimbabwe and other countries. So this all fits the fact pattern. Add onto it that our own state department acknowledges that reports of government violence are credible. Here's a report from 2023, so it cant be accused of being "manipulated" by the Trump administration: https://www.state.gov/reports/2023-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/south-africa/

There's only one reason you're fighting this, and that's because the victims are white. Full stop. It's so transparent.

I have known a number of South Africans who are white, and most of them told me they are trying to get friends and family out of SA.

I also knew a family who escaped Zimbabwe after their family farm was attacked and confiscated; the government condoned it and the family lost everything.

Things are not OK in South Africa, as much as many in the U.S. and EU want to pretend otherwise.

Anonymous wrote:We’re keen to dismiss it because MAGA likes to scream Fake News when it doesn’t suit them, but when Trump shows fake news, MAGA twists it to their convenience to bolster their argument. For a start, in the case of the Ramaphosa meeting, he confused images of the Democratic Republic of Congo with South Africa and a protest that showed white crosses by the side of the road with some mass burial ground. When your cult leader uses an iota of intelligence, judgement and discretion to consider fact from fiction, only then might we respect his words.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are people so quick to dismiss this? Africa has a long history of racial tension, and intra-racial ethnic tension. South Africa is perhaps the most famous example, and it's not exactly a secret that the black and white South Africans have beef. I once worked overseas with white South Africans, and they were all working to get UK citizenship due to government persecution (and many of them were successful).

There's a long history of race-based attacks on African farmers, not just in SA but also in Zimbabwe and other countries. So this all fits the fact pattern. Add onto it that our own state department acknowledges that reports of government violence are credible. Here's a report from 2023, so it cant be accused of being "manipulated" by the Trump administration: https://www.state.gov/reports/2023-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/south-africa/

There's only one reason you're fighting this, and that's because the victims are white. Full stop. It's so transparent.

I have known a number of South Africans who are white, and most of them told me they are trying to get friends and family out of SA.

I also knew a family who escaped Zimbabwe after their family farm was attacked and confiscated; the government condoned it and the family lost everything.

Things are not OK in South Africa, as much as many in the U.S. and EU want to pretend otherwise.