Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 17:23     Subject: Trump wants to control prescription drug costs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For real - does it make anybody else here furious that Clinton/Obama/Biden didn’t make an announcement like this?



If they had done it the, the Rs would have lost their sh*t, bc you know, socialism and it will stymie innovation in pharma. But Trump did it so, it’s brilliant.


And Clinton/Obama/Biden didn't usually go around "announcing" stuff without at least having a plan and some support in Congress. But Trump just goes around saying shit with no plan whatsoever.


The key difference is when Clinton/Obama/Biden announced something constructive on drug pricing, the right wing propaganda machine went into all out attack mode about how it was socialism, would ruin innovation, etc.

When Trump announces he’s cutting drug prices with absolutely no plan to make it happen, the same propagandists are falling all over themselves to praise dear leader.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 17:22     Subject: Re:Trump wants to control prescription drug costs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what’s to stop drug companies from simply raising prices outside the U.S.?


Not our problem.

I don’t see the EU fighting for best pricing for the US.



And we see again why Trump won. Democrats aren't capable of being stupid enough to connect with the voters who say it's "not out problem" of a solution doesn't work at all for obviously predictable reasons.


WTF is wrong with you? Democrats have been campaigning for lower drug prices for YEARS!


What’s wrong is that she only gets her news from Fox/OAN and therefore thinks that the only thing Dems talk about are pronouns and transgenders.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 17:18     Subject: Trump wants to control prescription drug costs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For real - does it make anybody else here furious that Clinton/Obama/Biden didn’t make an announcement like this?



If they had done it the, the Rs would have lost their sh*t, bc you know, socialism and it will stymie innovation in pharma. But Trump did it so, it’s brilliant.


And Clinton/Obama/Biden didn't usually go around "announcing" stuff without at least having a plan and some support in Congress. But Trump just goes around saying shit with no plan whatsoever.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 17:17     Subject: Re:Trump wants to control prescription drug costs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what’s to stop drug companies from simply raising prices outside the U.S.?


Not our problem.

I don’t see the EU fighting for best pricing for the US.



And we see again why Trump won. Democrats aren't capable of being stupid enough to connect with the voters who say it's "not out problem" of a solution doesn't work at all for obviously predictable reasons.


WTF is wrong with you? Democrats have been campaigning for lower drug prices for YEARS!
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 16:56     Subject: Trump wants to control prescription drug costs

Anonymous wrote:For real - does it make anybody else here furious that Clinton/Obama/Biden didn’t make an announcement like this?



If they had done it the, the Rs would have lost their sh*t, bc you know, socialism and it will stymie innovation in pharma. But Trump did it so, it’s brilliant.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 16:51     Subject: Re:Trump wants to control prescription drug costs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can’t stand Trump but if taxpayer money is used for research to develop many drugs, then they payback from Big Pharma should be lower prices for American consumers. You don’t get to take money from taxpayers then basically extort them when they’re ill.


You have to be stupid. It will be like egg price. He will say it is lowered to .99 and declare victory. Or like tariff. The play is getting old but it is hard to teach an old dog new trick.


And yet the media fell for the trick again and spent the whole morning blasting out headlines about how trump is going to lower drug prices .
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 16:44     Subject: Re:Trump wants to control prescription drug costs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can’t stand Trump but if taxpayer money is used for research to develop many drugs, then they payback from Big Pharma should be lower prices for American consumers. You don’t get to take money from taxpayers then basically extort them when they’re ill.


This. The extortion is unacceptable and add insurance to the mix and only the tax payer suffers. No one should be forced to turn down medication because of the cost, particularly when their tax dollars went to fund the R&D.


I thought we were pretty much giving that up under Trunp.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 16:05     Subject: Re:Trump wants to control prescription drug costs

Anonymous wrote:I can’t stand Trump but if taxpayer money is used for research to develop many drugs, then they payback from Big Pharma should be lower prices for American consumers. You don’t get to take money from taxpayers then basically extort them when they’re ill.


This. The extortion is unacceptable and add insurance to the mix and only the tax payer suffers. No one should be forced to turn down medication because of the cost, particularly when their tax dollars went to fund the R&D.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 16:01     Subject: Trump wants to control prescription drug costs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The prices f drugs around the world will go up. So we won’t necessarily get their current prices. We will get their future prices, which should still be lower than our current prices. When their prices go up too high, treatment of certain diseases will abruptly end. Also, certain countries with defy patents and start to manufacture drugs on their own. This should end in further price reductions.


Drug prices are often set by the government overseas. Pharma cantjus unilaterally raise prices in many places. One hold out is all the MFN needs to trigger a low price. Azerbaijan, you listening?


The penguins of McDonald Island will save America's seniors and diabetics.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 15:58     Subject: Re:Trump wants to control prescription drug costs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what’s to stop drug companies from simply raising prices outside the U.S.?


Not our problem.

I don’t see the EU fighting for best pricing for the US.



And we see again why Trump won. Democrats aren't capable of being stupid enough to connect with the voters who say it's "not out problem" of a solution doesn't work at all for obviously predictable reasons.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 15:47     Subject: Re:Trump wants to control prescription drug costs

Anonymous wrote:So what’s to stop drug companies from simply raising prices outside the U.S.?


Not our problem.

I don’t see the EU fighting for best pricing for the US.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 15:14     Subject: Re:Trump wants to control prescription drug costs

Anonymous wrote:I can’t stand Trump but if taxpayer money is used for research to develop many drugs, then they payback from Big Pharma should be lower prices for American consumers. You don’t get to take money from taxpayers then basically extort them when they’re ill.


You have to be stupid. It will be like egg price. He will say it is lowered to .99 and declare victory. Or like tariff. The play is getting old but it is hard to teach an old dog new trick.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 15:10     Subject: Trump wants to control prescription drug costs

Anonymous wrote:Wrong again OP... Trump's EO will require the drug companies to charge Americans the lowest price those same companies charge foreign countries. That's a saving of 30% - 80% for the drug.

More winning and less socialism!


Isn't price control communism?
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 15:09     Subject: Trump wants to control prescription drug costs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MFN pricing for drugs is a progressive wet dream. And the principal objectors to this during Trump I was Big Pharma and Republicans. Biden didn't like it. He retracted the Trump Reg that would have forced MFN pricing in Medicare.

Why are Dems so opposed to it now? To me, it just symbolizes Democrats being opposed to every Republican utterance. And Republicans objecting to every Democratic utterance.


We’re not opposed to it. We just don’t think it’s going to happen.

+1 read the press release.. there's no bite to it. All bark.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2025 13:50     Subject: Trump wants to control prescription drug costs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://bsky.app/profile/nytimes.com/post/3loybw3er222p

President Trump signed an executive order asking pharmaceutical companies to voluntarily lower their prices, but cited no obvious legal authority to mandate changes.


It's kinda like the RFKjr food dye thing - asking companies to voluntarily promise. It's a lot of bluster and very little substance.


Pharma stocks were way down this morning when people thought this was a real thing. They have now spiked once everyone realized it was just another Trump press release.