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Post 05/19/2025 11:20     Subject: Re:MS/HS recommendations for artsy kid

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Anonymous wrote:einstein parent here, and I agree that the lack of science AP's is the weak spot. Math is great, however! We love the AP Calc teacher who is also head of the department.

it's true there is no MV calc or higher--but there aren't close to enough kids to fill a class. 30 kids have taken the BC exam in the past three years combined, and of those, only 5 students got a 4 or 5. Just one five. In three years.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/data/LAR-charts/AP-Exam-by-Subject.html

It's trending upwards, and that's good. But it's wise to ensure the existing options are serving students before considering options that would serve only a tiny minority--and I say that as the parent of one of that tiny minority.

Class offerings notwithstanding, we really like the community at Einstein. For my student, the low-key vibe and supportive, relatively low-drama, chill social environment has been as instrumental to their success as this or that course offering. That might just be us, but I'm really glad my kid is there.


There are a handful of kids to take Mv. They don’t allow kids to take BC without AB in less you fight for it. If they offered it, more smart kids might choose Einstein.


There are smart kids at Einstein. They just don't get their needs met.


I do think a lot of the bright kids at Einstein are doing the IB diploma. My non-IB kid is doing a weird mix of IB and AP classes as a junior. The school has to support the IB diploma, so if there aren’t enough kids to need both AP and IB courses in a subject, they drop the AP.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 10:37     Subject: Re:MS/HS recommendations for artsy kid

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Anonymous wrote:Aaaaaaaand back we go to smart = STEM. Believe it or not, not all intelligent kids - or adults - give a hang about STEM. A kid who "needs" more math can get it at Montgomery College any time they want, including summers.


MC is after school/evening hours. So, if your child is in any activities or sports, including school, MC makes it impossible. Kids should get enough classes in math to graduate at the appropriate level. Just because your kids don't need it, many others do.


"Many" do not need multivariable calculus.


It's not about need. Its about want, challenging yourself and being competative for college admission. And, yes, if kids take it Sophmore or Junior year, they do "need" it as its required to take four years of math for graduation.

So, if its not needed, MCPS should get rid of it at all schools.


It is offered at the schools where there is high enough demand to justify offering it. It's as simple as that.


No, you are saying its not needed, so we should get rid of it at all schools. There would be a demand if it was offered as then more kids would choose Einstein.


I did not say that. If only a few students need/want the course, a school will not be able to offer it.


Regardless of the numbers, they should offer it. MCPS preaches equity, but there is none at many of our schools. And, for equity, no kids should get MV.

Y'all just trolling or are clueless.
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Post 05/19/2025 06:48     Subject: Re:MS/HS recommendations for artsy kid

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Anonymous wrote:Aaaaaaaand back we go to smart = STEM. Believe it or not, not all intelligent kids - or adults - give a hang about STEM. A kid who "needs" more math can get it at Montgomery College any time they want, including summers.


MC is after school/evening hours. So, if your child is in any activities or sports, including school, MC makes it impossible. Kids should get enough classes in math to graduate at the appropriate level. Just because your kids don't need it, many others do.


"Many" do not need multivariable calculus.


It's not about need. Its about want, challenging yourself and being competative for college admission. And, yes, if kids take it Sophmore or Junior year, they do "need" it as its required to take four years of math for graduation.

So, if its not needed, MCPS should get rid of it at all schools.


It is offered at the schools where there is high enough demand to justify offering it. It's as simple as that.


No, you are saying its not needed, so we should get rid of it at all schools. There would be a demand if it was offered as then more kids would choose Einstein.


I did not say that. If only a few students need/want the course, a school will not be able to offer it.


Regardless of the numbers, they should offer it. MCPS preaches equity, but there is none at many of our schools. And, for equity, no kids should get MV.


That makes no sense.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 02:32     Subject: Re:MS/HS recommendations for artsy kid

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Anonymous wrote:Aaaaaaaand back we go to smart = STEM. Believe it or not, not all intelligent kids - or adults - give a hang about STEM. A kid who "needs" more math can get it at Montgomery College any time they want, including summers.


MC is after school/evening hours. So, if your child is in any activities or sports, including school, MC makes it impossible. Kids should get enough classes in math to graduate at the appropriate level. Just because your kids don't need it, many others do.


"Many" do not need multivariable calculus.


It's not about need. Its about want, challenging yourself and being competative for college admission. And, yes, if kids take it Sophmore or Junior year, they do "need" it as its required to take four years of math for graduation.

So, if its not needed, MCPS should get rid of it at all schools.


It is offered at the schools where there is high enough demand to justify offering it. It's as simple as that.


No, you are saying its not needed, so we should get rid of it at all schools. There would be a demand if it was offered as then more kids would choose Einstein.


I did not say that. If only a few students need/want the course, a school will not be able to offer it.


Regardless of the numbers, they should offer it. MCPS preaches equity, but there is none at many of our schools. And, for equity, no kids should get MV.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 01:44     Subject: Re:MS/HS recommendations for artsy kid

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Anonymous wrote:Aaaaaaaand back we go to smart = STEM. Believe it or not, not all intelligent kids - or adults - give a hang about STEM. A kid who "needs" more math can get it at Montgomery College any time they want, including summers.


MC is after school/evening hours. So, if your child is in any activities or sports, including school, MC makes it impossible. Kids should get enough classes in math to graduate at the appropriate level. Just because your kids don't need it, many others do.


"Many" do not need multivariable calculus.


It's not about need. Its about want, challenging yourself and being competative for college admission. And, yes, if kids take it Sophmore or Junior year, they do "need" it as its required to take four years of math for graduation.

So, if its not needed, MCPS should get rid of it at all schools.


It is offered at the schools where there is high enough demand to justify offering it. It's as simple as that.


No, you are saying its not needed, so we should get rid of it at all schools. There would be a demand if it was offered as then more kids would choose Einstein.


I did not say that. If only a few students need/want the course, a school will not be able to offer it.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 01:30     Subject: Re:MS/HS recommendations for artsy kid

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:einstein parent here, and I agree that the lack of science AP's is the weak spot. Math is great, however! We love the AP Calc teacher who is also head of the department.

it's true there is no MV calc or higher--but there aren't close to enough kids to fill a class. 30 kids have taken the BC exam in the past three years combined, and of those, only 5 students got a 4 or 5. Just one five. In three years.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/data/LAR-charts/AP-Exam-by-Subject.html

It's trending upwards, and that's good. But it's wise to ensure the existing options are serving students before considering options that would serve only a tiny minority--and I say that as the parent of one of that tiny minority.

Class offerings notwithstanding, we really like the community at Einstein. For my student, the low-key vibe and supportive, relatively low-drama, chill social environment has been as instrumental to their success as this or that course offering. That might just be us, but I'm really glad my kid is there.


There are a handful of kids to take Mv. They don’t allow kids to take BC without AB in less you fight for it. If they offered it, more smart kids might choose Einstein.


I wonder if that’s changing. My current 10th grader had to ask the math teacher and counselor to enroll in BC after Pre-Calc, but it was approved. I was not involved at all, and, knowing DC, I find it hard to believe they “fought” for it.


You can get an override from the BC teacher/math head, but it wasn't easy to do as they push you to do AB first. Doing AB and BC is silly as the differerence is maybe a dozen chapters.


My 10th grader was just told by his counselor that BC would be better. I thought most Einstein kids took BC.


It may be counselor specific. BC is better as its just a little more content than AB. Only about 30 kids take BC per year. They only have one class.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 01:29     Subject: Re:MS/HS recommendations for artsy kid

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Aaaaaaaand back we go to smart = STEM. Believe it or not, not all intelligent kids - or adults - give a hang about STEM. A kid who "needs" more math can get it at Montgomery College any time they want, including summers.


MC is after school/evening hours. So, if your child is in any activities or sports, including school, MC makes it impossible. Kids should get enough classes in math to graduate at the appropriate level. Just because your kids don't need it, many others do.


"Many" do not need multivariable calculus.


It's not about need. Its about want, challenging yourself and being competative for college admission. And, yes, if kids take it Sophmore or Junior year, they do "need" it as its required to take four years of math for graduation.

So, if its not needed, MCPS should get rid of it at all schools.


It is offered at the schools where there is high enough demand to justify offering it. It's as simple as that.


No, you are saying its not needed, so we should get rid of it at all schools. There would be a demand if it was offered as then more kids would choose Einstein.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 01:26     Subject: Re:MS/HS recommendations for artsy kid

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Aaaaaaaand back we go to smart = STEM. Believe it or not, not all intelligent kids - or adults - give a hang about STEM. A kid who "needs" more math can get it at Montgomery College any time they want, including summers.


MC is after school/evening hours. So, if your child is in any activities or sports, including school, MC makes it impossible. Kids should get enough classes in math to graduate at the appropriate level. Just because your kids don't need it, many others do.


"Many" do not need multivariable calculus.


It's not about need. Its about want, challenging yourself and being competative for college admission. And, yes, if kids take it Sophmore or Junior year, they do "need" it as its required to take four years of math for graduation.

So, if its not needed, MCPS should get rid of it at all schools.


It is offered at the schools where there is high enough demand to justify offering it. It's as simple as that.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 01:16     Subject: Re:MS/HS recommendations for artsy kid

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:einstein parent here, and I agree that the lack of science AP's is the weak spot. Math is great, however! We love the AP Calc teacher who is also head of the department.

it's true there is no MV calc or higher--but there aren't close to enough kids to fill a class. 30 kids have taken the BC exam in the past three years combined, and of those, only 5 students got a 4 or 5. Just one five. In three years.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/data/LAR-charts/AP-Exam-by-Subject.html

It's trending upwards, and that's good. But it's wise to ensure the existing options are serving students before considering options that would serve only a tiny minority--and I say that as the parent of one of that tiny minority.

Class offerings notwithstanding, we really like the community at Einstein. For my student, the low-key vibe and supportive, relatively low-drama, chill social environment has been as instrumental to their success as this or that course offering. That might just be us, but I'm really glad my kid is there.


There are a handful of kids to take Mv. They don’t allow kids to take BC without AB in less you fight for it. If they offered it, more smart kids might choose Einstein.


I wonder if that’s changing. My current 10th grader had to ask the math teacher and counselor to enroll in BC after Pre-Calc, but it was approved. I was not involved at all, and, knowing DC, I find it hard to believe they “fought” for it.


You can get an override from the BC teacher/math head, but it wasn't easy to do as they push you to do AB first. Doing AB and BC is silly as the differerence is maybe a dozen chapters.


My 10th grader was just told by his counselor that BC would be better. I thought most Einstein kids took BC.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 00:24     Subject: Re:MS/HS recommendations for artsy kid

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Aaaaaaaand back we go to smart = STEM. Believe it or not, not all intelligent kids - or adults - give a hang about STEM. A kid who "needs" more math can get it at Montgomery College any time they want, including summers.


MC is after school/evening hours. So, if your child is in any activities or sports, including school, MC makes it impossible. Kids should get enough classes in math to graduate at the appropriate level. Just because your kids don't need it, many others do.


"Many" do not need multivariable calculus.


It's not about need. Its about want, challenging yourself and being competative for college admission. And, yes, if kids take it Sophmore or Junior year, they do "need" it as its required to take four years of math for graduation.

So, if its not needed, MCPS should get rid of it at all schools.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2025 23:50     Subject: Re:MS/HS recommendations for artsy kid

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Anonymous wrote:Aaaaaaaand back we go to smart = STEM. Believe it or not, not all intelligent kids - or adults - give a hang about STEM. A kid who "needs" more math can get it at Montgomery College any time they want, including summers.


MC is after school/evening hours. So, if your child is in any activities or sports, including school, MC makes it impossible. Kids should get enough classes in math to graduate at the appropriate level. Just because your kids don't need it, many others do.


"Many" do not need multivariable calculus.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2025 23:45     Subject: Re:MS/HS recommendations for artsy kid

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Anonymous wrote:Aaaaaaaand back we go to smart = STEM. Believe it or not, not all intelligent kids - or adults - give a hang about STEM. A kid who "needs" more math can get it at Montgomery College any time they want, including summers.


Great. No need to offer higher level math at any of the high schools, then.


Exactly, cut out Multivariable, Linear Algebra, etc. from all schools.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2025 23:44     Subject: Re:MS/HS recommendations for artsy kid

Anonymous wrote:Aaaaaaaand back we go to smart = STEM. Believe it or not, not all intelligent kids - or adults - give a hang about STEM. A kid who "needs" more math can get it at Montgomery College any time they want, including summers.


MC is after school/evening hours. So, if your child is in any activities or sports, including school, MC makes it impossible. Kids should get enough classes in math to graduate at the appropriate level. Just because your kids don't need it, many others do.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2025 22:47     Subject: Re:MS/HS recommendations for artsy kid

Anonymous wrote:Aaaaaaaand back we go to smart = STEM. Believe it or not, not all intelligent kids - or adults - give a hang about STEM. A kid who "needs" more math can get it at Montgomery College any time they want, including summers.


Great. No need to offer higher level math at any of the high schools, then.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2025 22:43     Subject: Re:MS/HS recommendations for artsy kid

Aaaaaaaand back we go to smart = STEM. Believe it or not, not all intelligent kids - or adults - give a hang about STEM. A kid who "needs" more math can get it at Montgomery College any time they want, including summers.