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Anonymous wrote:I see no reason we shouldn’t give these programs a try in this area.

Why not?

+1.


These programs are entirely voluntary; no one is forced to use a voucher if they don’t want to.

Shouldn’t parents be offered a choice?

Of course parents should. It’s the absolute worst when parents who send their kids to private school oppose vouchers. The public schools aren’t good enough for their kids, but are good enough for the poors! Gross.

Our kids’ school in Indiana has a high percentage of voucher students and is absolutely phenomenal. The public’s are horrible.

Does your school serve students with special needs? Do any of the students using vouchers have special needs?

Yes, my own son has special needs. He has the equivalent of an IEP. Another student is in a motorized wheelchair due to a disability, she is nonverbal. There are others but I don’t know everyone’s medical history nor should I.

Those are relatively easy compared to forcing a staff member to administer insulin...

Don’t some private schools especially in this area have accommodations for iep and 504 kids?

Anonymous wrote:Vice Presidential candidate Joe Lieberman supported and endorsed school choice.

How did that work out for him?

Anonymous wrote:Would it help or ruin public education?

Absolutely not.

There is not one state where vouchers have improved education. Republicans are liars.

This is about enriching Betsey DeVos and her band of sycophants.

VA keep an eye on Youngkin he and Betts have a plan for VA to have vouchers with their company.

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Anonymous wrote:I see no reason we shouldn’t give these programs a try in this area.

Why not?

+1.


These programs are entirely voluntary; no one is forced to use a voucher if they don’t want to.

Shouldn’t parents be offered a choice?

Of course parents should. It’s the absolute worst when parents who send their kids to private school oppose vouchers. The public schools aren’t good enough for their kids, but are good enough for the poors! Gross.

Our kids’ school in Indiana has a high percentage of voucher students and is absolutely phenomenal. The public’s are horrible.

So what problems are the vouchers solving? They are not improving the public schools. You don't care about those kids - but you should. When they grow up, they will be your kids' peers.

They allow my tax funds to be used on the school of my choice that is educating my children. And our school’s tuition is pegged to the voucher program…it costs the same to attend as the voucher so anyone can attend for “free” if they wish. Many of the students are on vouchers.

I do care about those kids and want them to have options. One entire local Catholic school is Spanish speaking only because we have so many children of immigrants who are also Catholic. It’s great for those families and also ensures they aren’t lost in the bad public schools. Many of our school’s tuition families are blue collar.

Most privates here are around 8-10k a year. The objections in this thread are mostly applicable to your “progressive” east coast privates, not us red state families.

Suppose the Supreme Court authorizes Catholic (and Muslim, and Scientologist) charter schools, at it seems likely to do. Would you prefer a system of voucher-based religious schools or a system of religious charter schools? And why?

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Anonymous wrote:I see no reason we shouldn’t give these programs a try in this area.

Why not?

+1.


These programs are entirely voluntary; no one is forced to use a voucher if they don’t want to.

Shouldn’t parents be offered a choice?

Of course parents should. It’s the absolute worst when parents who send their kids to private school oppose vouchers. The public schools aren’t good enough for their kids, but are good enough for the poors! Gross.

Our kids’ school in Indiana has a high percentage of voucher students and is absolutely phenomenal. The public’s are horrible.

So what problems are the vouchers solving? They are not improving the public schools. You don't care about those kids - but you should. When they grow up, they will be your kids' peers.

They allow my tax funds to be used on the school of my choice that is educating my children. And our school’s tuition is pegged to the voucher program…it costs the same to attend as the voucher so anyone can attend for “free” if they wish. Many of the students are on vouchers.

I do care about those kids and want them to have options. One entire local Catholic school is Spanish speaking only because we have so many children of immigrants who are also Catholic. It’s great for those families and also ensures they aren’t lost in the bad public schools. Many of our school’s tuition families are blue collar.

Most privates here are around 8-10k a year. The objections in this thread are mostly applicable to your “progressive” east coast privates, not us red state families.

Anonymous wrote:No. We don’t need White Nationalist academies here.

^ this

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Anonymous wrote:I see no reason we shouldn’t give these programs a try in this area.

Why not?

+1.


These programs are entirely voluntary; no one is forced to use a voucher if they don’t want to.

Shouldn’t parents be offered a choice?

Of course parents should. It’s the absolute worst when parents who send their kids to private school oppose vouchers. The public schools aren’t good enough for their kids, but are good enough for the poors! Gross.

Our kids’ school in Indiana has a high percentage of voucher students and is absolutely phenomenal. The public’s are horrible.

Does your school serve students with special needs? Do any of the students using vouchers have special needs?

Yes, my own son has special needs. He has the equivalent of an IEP. Another student is in a motorized wheelchair due to a disability, she is nonverbal. There are others but I don’t know everyone’s medical history nor should I.

I live in North Carolina and we have vouchers. Specifically, I'm in Charlotte. So, a critical mass of wealthy and well-educated alongside incredible poverty.

The top privates in Charlotte don't accept vouchers. Even if they did, the voucher amounts would barely make a dent in tution+fees. And this is pretty typical in the other major metro areas in the state. So the schools that accept vouchers are by and larg Catholic and evangelical Christian schools that don't have great outcomes.

Vouchers here don't improve economic diversity. Rich families go to rich, non-voucher schools. Poor and even middle class families can't afford elite tuition even with vouchers (assuming they can get admitted in the first place). If anything , it's increasing economic segregation; a lot of private schools have popped up in lower-income communities to take advantage of voucher money. But these schools are very under-resourced, lack quality teachers, and have rather suspect religious-based curriculums. Money is siphoned away from public schools to low-performing privates that aren't improving student outcomes.

Anonymous wrote:Is it going to be like college for donut hole families? They won't get vouchers and tuition would be unaffordable?

Yes. So public schools get less funding to take care of their existing students, public tax money subsidizes religious institutions, and the kids whose families probably could afford private anyway benefit.

My family is one of those: we're choosing to stay public to put our money where our values are. No thank you to vouchers. Gross.

DC does have a voucher system, the Opportunity Scholarship Program.

Yes but with income restrictions that are nuanced and also you get more if you live say east of i270.

If it weakens local schools then how would that affect housing values?

Is it going to be like college for donut hole families? They won't get vouchers and tuition would be unaffordable?

Anonymous wrote:If you don’t want to access vouchers, you do not have to.

What’s wrong with giving parents a choice?

Money is going from public schools hence killing that choice.