Anonymous
05/09/2025 15:30
Subject: Terrible job market for recent grads
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS graduated early from Virginia Tech with a computer engineering degree in December 2024, and has been looking a FT position since August 2024. He did internships in his sophomore and junior year. He applied over 1100 positions, received 14 interviews, and two offers. Those two offers were rescinded due to budget cut, and feels so depressed at the moment. Many of his friends who will graduate this week are still jobless who also have multiple internships. I really feel bad for them.
Tell him to seriously consider applying to DOGE. I’m being genuine. I don’t think joining would make him a sellout. A lot of the people in their 20s joining projects like that probably aren’t doing it out of conviction—they’re doing it because they’re struggling to find a traditional job. Some may be socially awkward or neurodivergent and find it hard to thrive in conventional work environments. DOGE as an idea may not be ideal, but given his skills—especially in coding and machine learning—it could be a place where he puts them to good use. He doesn’t need to act like some 20-something with an inflated ego. If he approaches it with maturity, he could actually gain a lot from the experience.
And he can always frame it honestly down the line: the job market was brutal, he didn’t want to sit idle, and he chose to stay sharp and productive. For what it’s worth, I’m 100% not a Trumper, and if he explained that rationale in an interview and came across well, I would absolutely hire him.
That’s bad advice. At best they will have to leave the country, live in hiding, and will never work again. At worst, they will be subjected to a tribunal and imprisoned for life. Why would you want that for your child???
Anonymous
05/09/2025 15:28
Subject: Terrible job market for recent grads
Guys, the job market sucks for everyone. It’s saturated. Looks like it will get worse before it gets better. For those who can, enjoy the time and spend as little as possible.
Anonymous
05/09/2025 15:22
Subject: Terrible job market for recent grads
My nephew graduated IT and he is having problems job hunting. Issue is he is weird
Anonymous
05/09/2025 15:18
Subject: Terrible job market for recent grads
OP, sounds like you should mention DOGE to your son and see what he thinks of it. He can read the points raised by the posters on this. Kids today have a sense of whether it is real or not.
Anonymous
05/09/2025 15:16
Subject: Terrible job market for recent grads
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS graduated early from Virginia Tech with a computer engineering degree in December 2024, and has been looking a FT position since August 2024. He did internships in his sophomore and junior year. He applied over 1100 positions, received 14 interviews, and two offers. Those two offers were rescinded due to budget cut, and feels so depressed at the moment. Many of his friends who will graduate this week are still jobless who also have multiple internships. I really feel bad for them.
Tell him to seriously consider applying to DOGE. I’m being genuine. I don’t think joining would make him a sellout. A lot of the people in their 20s joining projects like that probably aren’t doing it out of conviction—they’re doing it because they’re struggling to find a traditional job. Some may be socially awkward or neurodivergent and find it hard to thrive in conventional work environments. DOGE as an idea may not be ideal, but given his skills—especially in coding and machine learning—it could be a place where he puts them to good use. He doesn’t need to act like some 20-something with an inflated ego. If he approaches it with maturity, he could actually gain a lot from the experience.
And he can always frame it honestly down the line: the job market was brutal, he didn’t want to sit idle, and he chose to stay sharp and productive. For what it’s worth, I’m 100% not a Trumper, and if he explained that rationale in an interview and came across well, I would absolutely hire him.
Horrible advice. I'd never even bring in someone with DOGE on their resume for an interview, no matter their "rationale" and I suspect I'm not alone. It's the Liberty University equivalent for education on your resume. Unless you are deeply committed to a right wing career or looking at jobs where employers have few options, it's toxic. I'm a hiring manager and get 500+ resumes for every position and I would bin this so fast. Heck, I refused leave the private sector to go back to govt in a high level non political position because I didn't like the optics of taking something under Trump, the optics of going to DOGE are just atrocious long term.
I'm sorry, but I'm pretty sure that DOGE on your resume would get you an offer at META, Google, Palantir, X, Tesla, Andreessen Horowitz (VC firm), Uber, Pershing Square Capital (Bill Ackman's hedge fund), tons of VCs in Silicon Valley, Salesforce, Mark Cuban companies, Amazon Web Services ... sigh, you want me to continue, or can I stop now please? Those just rolled off of the top of my head.
But yes, if your goal is to work for IRS ... perhaps you don't want a DOGE job on your resume. It depends on what OP's son is aiming for in life.
I mean, maybe you're right? I've only been a hiring manager for Meta, Google, and AWS so I can't speak to the rest, but yeah for me, straight to the trash.
Sure you have ...
Don't know what to tell you. You go one level down from C suite and all of these places are pretty liberal. And have tons of options before turning to DOGE boys.
You don't need to tell me anything but here is what I can tell you: just one level below the C-suite, hiring decisions are driven by performance metrics, technical execution, and real-world profit impact. No one in those roles cares about a DOGE name on a resume if the candidate can demonstrate they delivered on large-scale data modeling or LLM manipulation that can be utilized. Especially in tech divisions, it's about whether you built something that scaled, worked under pressure, and added measurable value. A compsci or compeng grad isn’t trying to join the Comms team—they’re aiming to build systems that power platforms, not write press releases about them.
Anonymous
05/09/2025 15:12
Subject: Terrible job market for recent grads
I would think DOGE would make you look incompetent. I would avoid on the basis that their reputation is doing things badly and not actually saving money.
Anonymous
05/09/2025 15:05
Subject: Terrible job market for recent grads
If he spelled out the DOGE acronym on his resume, the average person would not make the association. Or, list employer as US Federal Government, position as temporary staff or contractor.
Anonymous
05/09/2025 15:03
Subject: Terrible job market for recent grads
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS graduated early from Virginia Tech with a computer engineering degree in December 2024, and has been looking a FT position since August 2024. He did internships in his sophomore and junior year. He applied over 1100 positions, received 14 interviews, and two offers. Those two offers were rescinded due to budget cut, and feels so depressed at the moment. Many of his friends who will graduate this week are still jobless who also have multiple internships. I really feel bad for them.
Tell him to seriously consider applying to DOGE. I’m being genuine. I don’t think joining would make him a sellout. A lot of the people in their 20s joining projects like that probably aren’t doing it out of conviction—they’re doing it because they’re struggling to find a traditional job. Some may be socially awkward or neurodivergent and find it hard to thrive in conventional work environments. DOGE as an idea may not be ideal, but given his skills—especially in coding and machine learning—it could be a place where he puts them to good use. He doesn’t need to act like some 20-something with an inflated ego. If he approaches it with maturity, he could actually gain a lot from the experience.
And he can always frame it honestly down the line: the job market was brutal, he didn’t want to sit idle, and he chose to stay sharp and productive. For what it’s worth, I’m 100% not a Trumper, and if he explained that rationale in an interview and came across well, I would absolutely hire him.
Horrible advice. I'd never even bring in someone with DOGE on their resume for an interview, no matter their "rationale" and I suspect I'm not alone. It's the Liberty University equivalent for education on your resume. Unless you are deeply committed to a right wing career or looking at jobs where employers have few options, it's toxic. I'm a hiring manager and get 500+ resumes for every position and I would bin this so fast. Heck, I refused leave the private sector to go back to govt in a high level non political position because I didn't like the optics of taking something under Trump, the optics of going to DOGE are just atrocious long term.
I'm sorry, but I'm pretty sure that DOGE on your resume would get you an offer at META, Google, Palantir, X, Tesla, Andreessen Horowitz (VC firm), Uber, Pershing Square Capital (Bill Ackman's hedge fund), tons of VCs in Silicon Valley, Salesforce, Mark Cuban companies, Amazon Web Services ... sigh, you want me to continue, or can I stop now please? Those just rolled off of the top of my head.
But yes, if your goal is to work for IRS ... perhaps you don't want a DOGE job on your resume. It depends on what OP's son is aiming for in life.
I mean, maybe you're right? I've only been a hiring manager for Meta, Google, and AWS so I can't speak to the rest, but yeah for me, straight to the trash.
Sure you have ...
Don't know what to tell you. You go one level down from C suite and all of these places are pretty liberal. And have tons of options before turning to DOGE boys.
Anonymous
05/09/2025 14:59
Subject: Terrible job market for recent grads
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS graduated early from Virginia Tech with a computer engineering degree in December 2024, and has been looking a FT position since August 2024. He did internships in his sophomore and junior year. He applied over 1100 positions, received 14 interviews, and two offers. Those two offers were rescinded due to budget cut, and feels so depressed at the moment. Many of his friends who will graduate this week are still jobless who also have multiple internships. I really feel bad for them.
Tell him to seriously consider applying to DOGE. I’m being genuine. I don’t think joining would make him a sellout. A lot of the people in their 20s joining projects like that probably aren’t doing it out of conviction—they’re doing it because they’re struggling to find a traditional job. Some may be socially awkward or neurodivergent and find it hard to thrive in conventional work environments. DOGE as an idea may not be ideal, but given his skills—especially in coding and machine learning—it could be a place where he puts them to good use. He doesn’t need to act like some 20-something with an inflated ego. If he approaches it with maturity, he could actually gain a lot from the experience.
And he can always frame it honestly down the line: the job market was brutal, he didn’t want to sit idle, and he chose to stay sharp and productive. For what it’s worth, I’m 100% not a Trumper, and if he explained that rationale in an interview and came across well, I would absolutely hire him.
Horrible advice. I'd never even bring in someone with DOGE on their resume for an interview, no matter their "rationale" and I suspect I'm not alone. It's the Liberty University equivalent for education on your resume. Unless you are deeply committed to a right wing career or looking at jobs where employers have few options, it's toxic. I'm a hiring manager and get 500+ resumes for every position and I would bin this so fast. Heck, I refused leave the private sector to go back to govt in a high level non political position because I didn't like the optics of taking something under Trump, the optics of going to DOGE are just atrocious long term.
I'm sorry, but I'm pretty sure that DOGE on your resume would get you an offer at META, Google, Palantir, X, Tesla, Andreessen Horowitz (VC firm), Uber, Pershing Square Capital (Bill Ackman's hedge fund), tons of VCs in Silicon Valley, Salesforce, Mark Cuban companies, Amazon Web Services ... sigh, you want me to continue, or can I stop now please? Those just rolled off of the top of my head.
But yes, if your goal is to work for IRS ... perhaps you don't want a DOGE job on your resume. It depends on what OP's son is aiming for in life.
I mean, maybe you're right? I've only been a hiring manager for Meta, Google, and AWS so I can't speak to the rest, but yeah for me, straight to the trash.
Sure you have ...
Anonymous
05/09/2025 14:58
Subject: Terrible job market for recent grads
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS graduated early from Virginia Tech with a computer engineering degree in December 2024, and has been looking a FT position since August 2024. He did internships in his sophomore and junior year. He applied over 1100 positions, received 14 interviews, and two offers. Those two offers were rescinded due to budget cut, and feels so depressed at the moment. Many of his friends who will graduate this week are still jobless who also have multiple internships. I really feel bad for them.
Tell him to seriously consider applying to DOGE. I’m being genuine. I don’t think joining would make him a sellout. A lot of the people in their 20s joining projects like that probably aren’t doing it out of conviction—they’re doing it because they’re struggling to find a traditional job. Some may be socially awkward or neurodivergent and find it hard to thrive in conventional work environments. DOGE as an idea may not be ideal, but given his skills—especially in coding and machine learning—it could be a place where he puts them to good use. He doesn’t need to act like some 20-something with an inflated ego. If he approaches it with maturity, he could actually gain a lot from the experience.
And he can always frame it honestly down the line: the job market was brutal, he didn’t want to sit idle, and he chose to stay sharp and productive. For what it’s worth, I’m 100% not a Trumper, and if he explained that rationale in an interview and came across well, I would absolutely hire him.
Horrible advice. I'd never even bring in someone with DOGE on their resume for an interview, no matter their "rationale" and I suspect I'm not alone. It's the Liberty University equivalent for education on your resume. Unless you are deeply committed to a right wing career or looking at jobs where employers have few options, it's toxic. I'm a hiring manager and get 500+ resumes for every position and I would bin this so fast. Heck, I refused leave the private sector to go back to govt in a high level non political position because I didn't like the optics of taking something under Trump, the optics of going to DOGE are just atrocious long term.
I'm sorry, but I'm pretty sure that DOGE on your resume would get you an offer at META, Google, Palantir, X, Tesla, Andreessen Horowitz (VC firm), Uber, Pershing Square Capital (Bill Ackman's hedge fund), tons of VCs in Silicon Valley, Salesforce, Mark Cuban companies, Amazon Web Services ... sigh, you want me to continue, or can I stop now please? Those just rolled off of the top of my head.
But yes, if your goal is to work for IRS ... perhaps you don't want a DOGE job on your resume. It depends on what OP's son is aiming for in life.
I mean, maybe you're right? I've only been a hiring manager for Meta, Google, and AWS so I can't speak to the rest, but yeah for me, straight to the trash.
Anonymous
05/09/2025 14:55
Subject: Terrible job market for recent grads
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS graduated early from Virginia Tech with a computer engineering degree in December 2024, and has been looking a FT position since August 2024. He did internships in his sophomore and junior year. He applied over 1100 positions, received 14 interviews, and two offers. Those two offers were rescinded due to budget cut, and feels so depressed at the moment. Many of his friends who will graduate this week are still jobless who also have multiple internships. I really feel bad for them.
Tell him to seriously consider applying to DOGE. I’m being genuine. I don’t think joining would make him a sellout. A lot of the people in their 20s joining projects like that probably aren’t doing it out of conviction—they’re doing it because they’re struggling to find a traditional job. Some may be socially awkward or neurodivergent and find it hard to thrive in conventional work environments. DOGE as an idea may not be ideal, but given his skills—especially in coding and machine learning—it could be a place where he puts them to good use. He doesn’t need to act like some 20-something with an inflated ego. If he approaches it with maturity, he could actually gain a lot from the experience.
And he can always frame it honestly down the line: the job market was brutal, he didn’t want to sit idle, and he chose to stay sharp and productive. For what it’s worth, I’m 100% not a Trumper, and if he explained that rationale in an interview and came across well, I would absolutely hire him.
Horrible advice. I'd never even bring in someone with DOGE on their resume for an interview, no matter their "rationale" and I suspect I'm not alone. It's the Liberty University equivalent for education on your resume. Unless you are deeply committed to a right wing career or looking at jobs where employers have few options, it's toxic. I'm a hiring manager and get 500+ resumes for every position and I would bin this so fast. Heck, I refused leave the private sector to go back to govt in a high level non political position because I didn't like the optics of taking something under Trump, the optics of going to DOGE are just atrocious long term.
I'm sorry, but I'm pretty sure that DOGE on your resume would get you an offer at META, Google, Palantir, X, Tesla, Andreessen Horowitz (VC firm), Uber, Pershing Square Capital (Bill Ackman's hedge fund), tons of VCs in Silicon Valley, Salesforce, Mark Cuban companies, Amazon Web Services ... sigh, you want me to continue, or can I stop now please? Those just rolled off of the top of my head.
But yes, if your goal is to work for IRS ... perhaps you don't want a DOGE job on your resume. It depends on what OP's son is aiming for in life.
Totally agree with the poster who recommended DOGE. There may be a lot of chaos the media reflects but in terms of data analysis and use of AI to work with massive scale data models, there isn't a better job for a compsci or compeng major. And I'll add a few more to the list (from my industry): McKinsey, Deloitte (the non-government side), Bain, BCG ... just to name a few. Every company needs technologists, even strategy firms.
Anonymous
05/09/2025 14:49
Subject: Terrible job market for recent grads
Getting a job at doge would allow you to pay your student loans, allow you to make your car payment and allow you to pay for an apartment. There is nothing wrong with honest work.
Anonymous
05/09/2025 14:47
Subject: Terrible job market for recent grads
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS graduated early from Virginia Tech with a computer engineering degree in December 2024, and has been looking a FT position since August 2024. He did internships in his sophomore and junior year. He applied over 1100 positions, received 14 interviews, and two offers. Those two offers were rescinded due to budget cut, and feels so depressed at the moment. Many of his friends who will graduate this week are still jobless who also have multiple internships. I really feel bad for them.
Tell him to seriously consider applying to DOGE. I’m being genuine. I don’t think joining would make him a sellout. A lot of the people in their 20s joining projects like that probably aren’t doing it out of conviction—they’re doing it because they’re struggling to find a traditional job. Some may be socially awkward or neurodivergent and find it hard to thrive in conventional work environments. DOGE as an idea may not be ideal, but given his skills—especially in coding and machine learning—it could be a place where he puts them to good use. He doesn’t need to act like some 20-something with an inflated ego. If he approaches it with maturity, he could actually gain a lot from the experience.
And he can always frame it honestly down the line: the job market was brutal, he didn’t want to sit idle, and he chose to stay sharp and productive. For what it’s worth, I’m 100% not a Trumper, and if he explained that rationale in an interview and came across well, I would absolutely hire him.
Horrible advice. I'd never even bring in someone with DOGE on their resume for an interview, no matter their "rationale" and I suspect I'm not alone. It's the Liberty University equivalent for education on your resume. Unless you are deeply committed to a right wing career or looking at jobs where employers have few options, it's toxic. I'm a hiring manager and get 500+ resumes for every position and I would bin this so fast. Heck, I refused leave the private sector to go back to govt in a high level non political position because I didn't like the optics of taking something under Trump, the optics of going to DOGE are just atrocious long term.
I'm sorry, but I'm pretty sure that DOGE on your resume would get you an offer at META, Google, Palantir, X, Tesla, Andreessen Horowitz (VC firm), Uber, Pershing Square Capital (Bill Ackman's hedge fund), tons of VCs in Silicon Valley, Salesforce, Mark Cuban companies, Amazon Web Services ... sigh, you want me to continue, or can I stop now please? Those just rolled off of the top of my head.
But yes, if your goal is to work for IRS ... perhaps you don't want a DOGE job on your resume. It depends on what OP's son is aiming for in life.
Anonymous
05/09/2025 14:46
Subject: Terrible job market for recent grads
I wouldn’t hire someone who worked for DOGE. I have a new colleague who has on her LinkedIn that she was part of the ‘college republicans’, I ignore her.
Anonymous
05/09/2025 14:40
Subject: Terrible job market for recent grads
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DS graduated early from Virginia Tech with a computer engineering degree in December 2024, and has been looking a FT position since August 2024. He did internships in his sophomore and junior year. He applied over 1100 positions, received 14 interviews, and two offers. Those two offers were rescinded due to budget cut, and feels so depressed at the moment. Many of his friends who will graduate this week are still jobless who also have multiple internships. I really feel bad for them.
Tell him to seriously consider applying to DOGE. I’m being genuine. I don’t think joining would make him a sellout. A lot of the people in their 20s joining projects like that probably aren’t doing it out of conviction—they’re doing it because they’re struggling to find a traditional job. Some may be socially awkward or neurodivergent and find it hard to thrive in conventional work environments. DOGE as an idea may not be ideal, but given his skills—especially in coding and machine learning—it could be a place where he puts them to good use. He doesn’t need to act like some 20-something with an inflated ego. If he approaches it with maturity, he could actually gain a lot from the experience.
And he can always frame it honestly down the line: the job market was brutal, he didn’t want to sit idle, and he chose to stay sharp and productive. For what it’s worth, I’m 100% not a Trumper, and if he explained that rationale in an interview and came across well, I would absolutely hire him.
Horrible advice. I'd never even bring in someone with DOGE on their resume for an interview, no matter their "rationale" and I suspect I'm not alone. It's the Liberty University equivalent for education on your resume. Unless you are deeply committed to a right wing career or looking at jobs where employers have few options, it's toxic. I'm a hiring manager and get 500+ resumes for every position and I would bin this so fast. Heck, I refused leave the private sector to go back to govt in a high level non political position because I didn't like the optics of taking something under Trump, the optics of going to DOGE are just atrocious long term.
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