Anonymous wrote:Was talking about this whole thread. Not just one comment. It either doesn’t happen, or the posters on this thread should expose it where it does. Otherwise this thread whole thread is just trolling. Or you all know it is trolling and you you get off on that, which is sad.

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Anonymous wrote:I say it's BS. Never seen anyone pay coaches separately for extras (excluding 1 on 1 training). Name the local club or not true.

You aren't supposed to see it. Duh. I've never seen anyone rob a bank. It doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

On our team the team manager passes a basket around during the second half of each game, then hands the basket to the coach after the postgame huddle. Not sure how pp doesn't notice.

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Anonymous wrote:400-1000 per month for mins in games is common at top clubs on west coast.

It’s F in gross.

I was pretty shocked when chatting with a west coast parent and they asked what I pay in 'coach fees' per month... I was stumped (as parent and longtime coach), and told him I had never heard of the concept. He said it is how all of the coaches/clubs in his areas operate, you pay the club a standard fee (for the year) and then pay monthly fees to a coach... Pretty wild if you ask me.

Typing this from Socal...

At the younger ages the way it goes is most top coaches from top clubs run private training sessions which happen outside of regular practices. The cost is $100 to $200 per hour and can be 1-3 players. This is how players from other clubs get on the teams. To directly pay what you do is schedule a private training session + pay for it, then they day before say you can't attend but tell the coach to keep the money. Before and after the private sessions parents buddy up with the coach.

I've also seen parents give coaches rounds of golf at private clubs + they go with them and chat the entire time. This puts the coach in a position where they feel obligated to play money bags kid.

Another common way parents control the team is 4-5 of them group up on decisions then call for a vote. These groups also try to go to other clubs as a package deal. If they can get enough top players in the group any coach will take them.

I'm sure there's more ways to pay coaches but I don't care anymore. Once you get to u14 top players will make themselves known independent of all the parent and coach nonsense.

Don’t forget the mediocre kid on an academy level team has a parent as the team manager.

Yes, but that is 100% opposite of paying the coaches. I am a TM, I work my but off for the parents, kids and club for free, that is not the same as paying money to the coach. Hell, on top of that, I have to cover for the parents who don't pay for their tournament fees on time or some times at all. And as far as my kid goes, being TM had zero influence of the coach on my kid...infact, I kinds think the coach doesn't like my kid. Parents, for some reason, seem to get jealous of the TM because they think we have some kind of insider take on coaching decisions... news flash, we are kept in the dark just like everyone else. If I want my kid to move up, looks like I'll have to standing in line with everyone else and pay for private training too!

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Anonymous wrote:…for top team selection and/or preferential treatment? It seems to be the only thing that makes sense with some of the u9-u12 teams my DC has played for over the years. It’s obvious to all the other parents that a kid should not be on a team or get reasonable minutes, so one conclusion could be that parents are paying on the side? Is this a thing?

Absolutely not! This would never happen! But if someone were to offer a coach money, who much should they offer? Asking for a friend.

Parents who buy their lame kids on to the top teams. AIM high!

But in the end, it shows. And trust me, everyone else on the team knows.

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Anonymous wrote:400-1000 per month for mins in games is common at top clubs on west coast.

It’s F in gross.

I was pretty shocked when chatting with a west coast parent and they asked what I pay in 'coach fees' per month... I was stumped (as parent and longtime coach), and told him I had never heard of the concept. He said it is how all of the coaches/clubs in his areas operate, you pay the club a standard fee (for the year) and then pay monthly fees to a coach... Pretty wild if you ask me.

Typing this from Socal...

At the younger ages the way it goes is most top coaches from top clubs run private training sessions which happen outside of regular practices. The cost is $100 to $200 per hour and can be 1-3 players. This is how players from other clubs get on the teams. To directly pay what you do is schedule a private training session + pay for it, then they day before say you can't attend but tell the coach to keep the money. Before and after the private sessions parents buddy up with the coach.

I've also seen parents give coaches rounds of golf at private clubs + they go with them and chat the entire time. This puts the coach in a position where they feel obligated to play money bags kid.

Another common way parents control the team is 4-5 of them group up on decisions then call for a vote. These groups also try to go to other clubs as a package deal. If they can get enough top players in the group any coach will take them.

I'm sure there's more ways to pay coaches but I don't care anymore. Once you get to u14 top players will make themselves known independent of all the parent and coach nonsense.

Don’t forget the mediocre kid on an academy level team has a parent as the team manager.

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Anonymous wrote:400-1000 per month for mins in games is common at top clubs on west coast.

It’s F in gross.

I was pretty shocked when chatting with a west coast parent and they asked what I pay in 'coach fees' per month... I was stumped (as parent and longtime coach), and told him I had never heard of the concept. He said it is how all of the coaches/clubs in his areas operate, you pay the club a standard fee (for the year) and then pay monthly fees to a coach... Pretty wild if you ask me.

Typing this from Socal...

At the younger ages the way it goes is most top coaches from top clubs run private training sessions which happen outside of regular practices. The cost is $100 to $200 per hour and can be 1-3 players. This is how players from other clubs get on the teams. To directly pay what you do is schedule a private training session + pay for it, then they day before say you can't attend but tell the coach to keep the money. Before and after the private sessions parents buddy up with the coach.

I've also seen parents give coaches rounds of golf at private clubs + they go with them and chat the entire time. This puts the coach in a position where they feel obligated to play money bags kid.

Another common way parents control the team is 4-5 of them group up on decisions then call for a vote. These groups also try to go to other clubs as a package deal. If they can get enough top players in the group any coach will take them.

I'm sure there's more ways to pay coaches but I don't care anymore. Once you get to u14 top players will make themselves known independent of all the parent and coach nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:…for top team selection and/or preferential treatment? It seems to be the only thing that makes sense with some of the u9-u12 teams my DC has played for over the years. Its obvious to all the other parents that a kid should not be on a team or get reasonable minutes, so one conclusion could be that parents are paying on the side? Is this a thing?

Absolutely not! This would never happen! But if someone were to offer a coach money, who much should they offer? Asking for a friend.

Anonymous wrote:…for top team selection and/or preferential treatment? It seems to be the only thing that makes sense with some of the u9-u12 teams my DC has played for over the years. Its obvious to all the other parents that a kid should not be on a team or get reasonable minutes, so one conclusion could be that parents are paying on the side? Is this a thing?

Anonymous wrote:Was talking about this whole thread. Not just one comment. It either doesn’t happen, or the posters on this thread should expose it where it does. Otherwise this thread whole thread is just trolling. Or you all know it is trolling and you you get off on that, which is sad.

Anonymous wrote:You are at the wrong clubs. My child has played ECNL for 3 local clubs and this has just not happened. If it is happening at your club, this is the outlier, NOT the norm, and you should run as fast as you can.This is simply not a thing that happens on the girls side for any of the N VA ECNL clubs that we have been associated with.

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Anonymous wrote:I say it's BS. Never seen anyone pay coaches separately for extras (excluding 1 on 1 training). Name the local club or not true.

You aren't supposed to see it. Duh. I've never seen anyone rob a bank. It doesn't mean it doesn't happen.