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Anonymous wrote:I think GLP-1 is so widely accepted in my circle that if someone were gossipy or judgmental about it, it would only reflect poorly on them.

+1

UMC highly educated

lol, it’s about your wealth not your education.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they took the lazy way out.

Why do you think losing weight should be hard? Serious question.

+1

Sure Larla's cancer is in remission -- but she just had surgery and it worked. She didn't have to have chemo or radiation. She did it the easy way.

Comparing weightloss to cancer?

Are you trying to look like a joke?

+1. The title of the thread tells you what it’s about. Yet people open it so they can offended by the responses. Imagine comparing losing vanity pounds to fighting cancer. So bankrupt.

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It's fine if a GLP1 helped you lose weight. But it is the easy way. If it bothers you to hear that, then that's on you. We all need help sometimes, but there's also nothing wrong with admitting you needed assistance. If you're going to enjoy someone commenting on your weightloss or how thin you look, then you also need to accept that people are going to wonder how you did it. These 2 things go together. If you feel shame about how you lost the weight, then that's your issue to reconcile.

Would you ever say:
"It's fine if an antidepressant helped you feel better. But it is the easy way. If it bothers you to hear that, then that's on you."

Why is it ok to take an antidepressant to help you if your brain chemistry works differently than other people's, but not OK to take a GLP1 if your hormones work differently than other people's. Same/same in my mind.

Genuine question - do you not realize plenty of people said that for years after the release SSRIS? Do you not realize people still say it?

Anonymous wrote:My friend is excessively skinny because of the drugs and all the subsequent plastic surgeries to rid herself of the excess skin, lifts, tucks, and what not. She also now makes fun of "fat" people, when none of us -- or anyone else I know of and I've known her my whole life -- ever made fun of her. We liked her for her, not for her body. That is why we talk about her now; she has changed in more ways than size and it is hard to deal with.

I am not fat. I am not skinny. I am in shape and right in the middle of where I am comfortable (5'8" and 145 lbs), but to her I am "borderline overweight" and should be watching what I eat. Her mind is now warped from all she's done in the past 18 - 24 months. She sits and stares seemingly disgustedly while we eat; it is disturbing.

Ooh I love the excess skin photos, both before and afters. I wonder if she's one of the ladies I follow.

My friend is excessively skinny because of the drugs and all the subsequent plastic surgeries to rid herself of the excess skin, lifts, tucks, and what not. She also now makes fun of "fat" people, when none of us -- or anyone else I know of and I've known her my whole life -- ever made fun of her. We liked her for her, not for her body. That is why we talk about her now; she has changed in more ways than size and it is hard to deal with.

I am not fat. I am not skinny. I am in shape and right in the middle of where I am comfortable (5'8" and 145 lbs), but to her I am "borderline overweight" and should be watching what I eat. Her mind is now warped from all she's done in the past 18 - 24 months. She sits and stares seemingly disgustedly while we eat; it is disturbing.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they took the lazy way out.

Why do you think losing weight should be hard? Serious question.

+1

Sure Larla's cancer is in remission -- but she just had surgery and it worked. She didn't have to have chemo or radiation. She did it the easy way.

Comparing weightloss to cancer?

Are you trying to look like a joke?

OK, so you did not like PPs analogy, fine. You still have not responded to the clearly worded question: why do you want weight loss to be hard for other people?

Look, there is benefit in doing hard things.

As someone who has ben obese as a child and much of my adult life, most of us overeat for deep emotional reasons. It's not just because we love bread so much. Cool, a GLP1 will reduce your appetite and thus help you lose weight. But it never helps the person get to the deep reason why they coped with food in the first place. It's the reason why most regain when they go off the drug, and also the reaosn why most people re-gain in general.

Doing the deep emotional work is challenging and hard, but that's the only way one can untangle the bad habits in the first place to relaly fix them. Sorry that you feel butt hurt over that.

I want everyone to be healthy, but you can't fix the mind just by losing some pounds. Them's them hard apple facts.

I 100% reject the idea that weight loss requires therapy. It did for you, and you got it, and that's great. But do NOT come at me with your therapy-speak as if your issues are universal.

I love bread (and cheese and salami and wine and many other things). I am a 50 year old woman who works at a desk. I have genetically shitty knees. I live in a country that puts empty delicious calories within reach everywhere I go. None of this points to therapy. Maybe I would need therapy had I chosen to damage my body through starvation and my soul through futile exercise classes. Luckily, all I needed was a few months of injections. I get that it's not so easy for you, and I do not fault you for your position. Please don't attack mine.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they took the lazy way out.

Why do you think losing weight should be hard? Serious question.

+1

Sure Larla's cancer is in remission -- but she just had surgery and it worked. She didn't have to have chemo or radiation. She did it the easy way.

Comparing weightloss to cancer?

Are you trying to look like a joke?

OK, so you did not like PPs analogy, fine. You still have not responded to the clearly worded question: why do you want weight loss to be hard for other people?

Look, there is benefit in doing hard things.

As someone who has ben obese as a child and much of my adult life, most of us overeat for deep emotional reasons. It's not just because we love bread so much. Cool, a GLP1 will reduce your appetite and thus help you lose weight. But it never helps the person get to the deep reason why they coped with food in the first place. It's the reason why most regain when they go off the drug, and also the reaosn why most people re-gain in general.

Doing the deep emotional work is challenging and hard, but that's the only way one can untangle the bad habits in the first place to relaly fix them. Sorry that you feel butt hurt over that.

I want everyone to be healthy, but you can't fix the mind just by losing some pounds. Them's them hard apple facts.

We get it, you think you're better than everyone else because you worked for it.

For the lady who says "it's the easy way out" and the lady who says "these people still aren't healthy" -- I was on Wegovy a few years ago before the side effects became too much for me, and in addition to making me eat less and somehow making me want to eat healthier, it also gave me more energy so that I COULD exercise every single day. It changed my lifestyle. And yes, I have maintained the 25 lbs loss, although I have had a very hard time losing more since then.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they took the lazy way out.

Why do you think losing weight should be hard? Serious question.

+1

Sure Larla's cancer is in remission -- but she just had surgery and it worked. She didn't have to have chemo or radiation. She did it the easy way.

Comparing weightloss to cancer?

Are you trying to look like a joke?

OK, so you did not like PPs analogy, fine. You still have not responded to the clearly worded question: why do you want weight loss to be hard for other people?

Look, there is benefit in doing hard things.

As someone who has ben obese as a child and much of my adult life, most of us overeat for deep emotional reasons. It's not just because we love bread so much. Cool, a GLP1 will reduce your appetite and thus help you lose weight. But it never helps the person get to the deep reason why they coped with food in the first place. It's the reason why most regain when they go off the drug, and also the reaosn why most people re-gain in general.

Doing the deep emotional work is challenging and hard, but that's the only way one can untangle the bad habits in the first place to relaly fix them. Sorry that you feel butt hurt over that.

I want everyone to be healthy, but you can't fix the mind just by losing some pounds. Them's them hard apple facts.

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Anonymous wrote:

It's fine if a GLP1 helped you lose weight. But it is the easy way. If it bothers you to hear that, then that's on you. We all need help sometimes, but there's also nothing wrong with admitting you needed assistance. If you're going to enjoy someone commenting on your weightloss or how thin you look, then you also need to accept that people are going to wonder how you did it. These 2 things go together. If you feel shame about how you lost the weight, then that's your issue to reconcile.

Would you ever say:
"It's fine if an antidepressant helped you feel better. But it is the easy way. If it bothers you to hear that, then that's on you."

Why is it ok to take an antidepressant to help you if your brain chemistry works differently than other people's, but not OK to take a GLP1 if your hormones work differently than other people's. Same/same in my mind.

I would, and I have been both depressed and obese (not necessarily at the same times in my life).

Like I said, there's nothing wrong with taking things that help, but they ARE the easy way without trying other things first.

I'm sorry you and others are so triggered. Clearly I hit a nerve with the sensitivity.

We can tell that you are the type of person who just likes to blame other people for...everything. Not "I'm sorry I was insensitive" but "I'm sorry you're triggered" because of course you could never do anything wrong, it's always other people doing something wrong.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I now think it’s weird that anyone who can’t afford it doesn’t try to get this miracle drug. The compounded version isn’t too expensive and works great. How in the world are there still fat or chubby politicians, for example? Get with it, people! [/quote]

I wonder this too now when I see very overweight people who can clearly probably get insurance to cover the cost.

I know a bunch of people on it and they are all open about it. I am grateful because I'm interested in hearing about it.[/quote]

Me too-- when I see people who are morbidly obese I wonder why their doctor hasn't put them on it, fully covered by insurance. It could be a profound improvement in quality (and quantity) of life.

I used the compounded version and it cost less than a gym membership and worked better. Now my knees don't hurt anymore! Joint pain was one of the things keeping me from exercising more, and the joint pain was exacerbated by the extra weight. I lost 20 pounds effortlessly in six months, I feel better, and my clothes fit better. (The real trigger to start the drug was that I was on the verge of needing to buy all new stuff and I hate shopping). I went off it and have kept the weight off for six months, because now I can exercise, and very importantly, it recalibrated my understanding of hunger and what I need. My urge to snack is way down. I am more easily satiated.

I was extremely lucky in the side effects, too. My bestie had significant nausea and constipation. I had only the mildest of queasiness the day I took it, and then nothing.

I'm an evangelist. I'll tell anyone. If someone accuses me of being lazy or taking the easy way out, I'll ask them if they wash all their clothes by hand in the river. [/quote]

You are in fact taking the lazy way out. You just don't want to admit it. [/quote]

NP - you don’t get it. Everyone has things in life they find easier/harder. Weight is just one of them. In reality finding an efficient and manageable way to achieve goals is just smart, and that applies to weight loss as well. It bugs you because you can’t hate that person as fat anymore and you lose the upper snug skinny hand.

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Anonymous wrote:And the reason I mentioned upper middle class is because many did use it for somewhat cosmetic reasons- going from a 12/14 to a size 4.

I have never seen more than 1 or 2 UMC 12/14s. Is this in the South?

You are nasty.

Anonymous wrote:It's fine if a GLP1 helped you lose weight. But it is the easy way. If it bothers you to hear that, then that's on you. We all need help sometimes, but there's also nothing wrong with admitting you needed assistance. If you're going to enjoy someone commenting on your weightloss or how thin you look, then you also need to accept that people are going to wonder how you did it. These 2 things go together. If you feel shame about how you lost the weight, then that's your issue to reconcile.

Here's what it is OP. It's because like this poster like to feel superior to others and convince themselves that their friends on GLP-1 are lazy, so don't worry, even if they're more attractive now PP is still better because at least she's not lazy.

Anonymous wrote:I think GLP-1 is so widely accepted in my circle that if someone were gossipy or judgmental about it, it would only reflect poorly on them.

+1

UMC highly educated

Anonymous wrote:The people that gossip about it are probably the ones whose self-worth is tied up in being hot. They feel threatened by other women that they previously felt superior to becoming more attractive.

This.