Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know autism is at least in part genetic because various cousins have kids with autism.
So don't get me wrong. But it does seem like autism has exploded in numbers.

Why don't we keep an open mind and look at all the variables, not just the "accepted" causes?

Remember, Galileo proclaimed the earth was round and almost got burned at the stake for that heresy. He had the temerity to question the accepted flat earth belief of his time.

Not saying RFK Jr. is a Galileo, but at least let's explore potential environmental factors that might be causing susceptible individuals to develop autism.

Once again - if you can string together that set of words into sentences, you can also figure out that what RFK is saying is NOT a question founded in any sort of understanding of the current knowledge of autism. I don’t think anyone objects to research on how pollution affects fetuses for example. But Doge has gutted all of the capacity to do such research. RFK is not a doctor, not a scientist, and is making zero effort to foster legitimate inquiry.

+1

He has zero literally zero education in this matter. Who let's this crap come near their kid's medical decisions? No parent that is a good parent would allow someone with zero education have a say in vaccines.

HHS Secretaries don't issue vaccine recommendations. He is also not DOGE.

He’s doge’s stooge. They picked him because they knew he is an addled fool and they could gut HHS on his watch.

A more interesting question is how far in the mud Makary and Bhattacharya will go. They are contrarions but also actual medical doctors and scientists.

Anonymous wrote:Granted. Not trying to deny in any manner the research that is needed.

Just making the point that all the possible causes should be explored.

If you're the scientist PP, then you know small research companies are working on formulating vaccines on one or two forms of cancer. I am not a scientist by any means, but have glanced at information on their work. A few decades ago nobody would have said that maybe a vaccine can help prevent cancer. It's fair to say most of us welcome the possibility a vaccine might be able to prevent these cancers.

Causes that have been pretty thoroughly debunked should not “be explored” unless there is a solid new hypothesis. You are completely (willfully?) distorting what RFK is doing. He’s not acting in support of cutting edge science. He’s digging up researchers who were literally committing fraud. And on the other hand, gutting NIH and crippling the kind of innovative researchers who ask those kinds of questions.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't like him or the administration. However, if he can take a different look at this, I am willing to listen to what they come up with. If it's garbage, we're no worse than we're now. If they find something, then it can be discussed on its own merits.

We know that there have been studies of individual vaccine safety, yes. They are properly done and well documented. However, nobody studied the effect of 20+ vaccinations before the age of 18 months. That's a really big question. Those born in 70s, 80s and 90s didn't have as many vaccination at this early an age.

The number of vaccinations in early childhood is a likely suspect. What's wrong with studying that?

Sure, maybe. But we have a lot of other things going on too. Microplastics, forever chemicals, food preservatives, and who knows what else. Are we looking at all the things or just vaccines?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to link the gift article and not say too much about it, because I just read it and, as a biomedical research scientist, my blood pressure went through the roof:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/16/us/politics/rfk-jr-autism.html?unlocked_article_code=1.AE8.fmp1.8xeoN7g_LKh0&smid=url-share

Why is he speaking on a subject for which he has no expertise? Typical of the Trump administration, I guess.

Rfk Jr is our nation’s chief health officer so he has the pulpit to say whatever he wants. Too bad he’s a colossal idiot but elections have consequences.

Anonymous wrote:I don't like him or the administration. However, if he can take a different look at this, I am willing to listen to what they come up with. If it's garbage, we're no worse than we're now. If they find something, then it can be discussed on its own merits.

We know that there have been studies of individual vaccine safety, yes. They are properly done and well documented. However, nobody studied the effect of 20+ vaccinations before the age of 18 months. That's a really big question. Those born in 70s, 80s and 90s didn't have as many vaccination at this early an age.

The number of vaccinations in early childhood is a likely suspect. What's wrong with studying that?

Anonymous wrote:I found the relatively recent studies that linked gestational diabetes and ADHD (and ASD to a lesser extent) to be interesting. I had gestational diabetes with one pregnancy and that’s the kid with ADHD. Don’t know if there is a relationship there but it’s interesting.

There appears to be an increase in a number of diseases and other health problems in our population. You can pry vaccines out of my cold dead hands but I wouldn’t mind a look at what is going on as a whole.

I don’t think that vaccines cause autism. But if a vaccine can supposedly lessen the occurrence of dementia, there could be other effects we’re not aware of.

You won't get that out of this administration. Actual science is not somthey value.

Anonymous wrote:Childhood vaccine rates in the USA have been dropping since 2020.

If vaccines caused autism shouldn’t we also see a drop in autism?


Cult of stupidy

In children who had already been vaccinated. These are the kids who during/after Covid stopped getting routine care.

I found the relatively recent studies that linked gestational diabetes and ADHD (and ASD to a lesser extent) to be interesting. I had gestational diabetes with one pregnancy and that’s the kid with ADHD. Don’t know if there is a relationship there but it’s interesting.

There appears to be an increase in a number of diseases and other health problems in our population. You can pry vaccines out of my cold dead hands but I wouldn’t mind a look at what is going on as a whole.

I don’t think that vaccines cause autism. But if a vaccine can supposedly lessen the occurrence of dementia, there could be other effects we’re not aware of.

Anonymous wrote:Childhood vaccine rates in the USA have been dropping since 2020.

If vaccines caused autism shouldn’t we also see a drop in autism?


Cult of stupidy

It’d be too soon.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know autism is at least in part genetic because various cousins have kids with autism.
So don't get me wrong. But it does seem like autism has exploded in numbers.

Why don't we keep an open mind and look at all the variables, not just the "accepted" causes?

Remember, Galileo proclaimed the earth was round and almost got burned at the stake for that heresy. He had the temerity to question the accepted flat earth belief of his time.

Not saying RFK Jr. is a Galileo, but at least let's explore potential environmental factors that might be causing susceptible individuals to develop autism.

Once again - if you can string together that set of words into sentences, you can also figure out that what RFK is saying is NOT a question founded in any sort of understanding of the current knowledge of autism. I don’t think anyone objects to research on how pollution affects fetuses for example. But Doge has gutted all of the capacity to do such research. RFK is not a doctor, not a scientist, and is making zero effort to foster legitimate inquiry.

+1

He has zero literally zero education in this matter. Who let's this crap come near their kid's medical decisions? No parent that is a good parent would allow someone with zero education have a say in vaccines.

HHS Secretaries don't issue vaccine recommendations. He is also not DOGE.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know autism is at least in part genetic because various cousins have kids with autism.
So don't get me wrong. But it does seem like autism has exploded in numbers.

Why don't we keep an open mind and look at all the variables, not just the "accepted" causes?

Remember, Galileo proclaimed the earth was round and almost got burned at the stake for that heresy. He had the temerity to question the accepted flat earth belief of his time.

Not saying RFK Jr. is a Galileo, but at least let's explore potential environmental factors that might be causing susceptible individuals to develop autism.

Once again - if you can string together that set of words into sentences, you can also figure out that what RFK is saying is NOT a question founded in any sort of understanding of the current knowledge of autism. I don’t think anyone objects to research on how pollution affects fetuses for example. But Doge has gutted all of the capacity to do such research. RFK is not a doctor, not a scientist, and is making zero effort to foster legitimate inquiry.

+1

He has zero literally zero education in this matter. Who let's this crap come near their kid's medical decisions? No parent that is a good parent would allow someone with zero education have a say in vaccines.

Childhood vaccine rates in the USA have been dropping since 2020.

If vaccines caused autism shouldn’t we also see a drop in autism?


Cult of stupidy

Granted. Not trying to deny in any manner the research that is needed.

Just making the point that all the possible causes should be explored.

If you're the scientist PP, then you know small research companies are working on formulating vaccines on one or two forms of cancer. I am not a scientist by any means, but have glanced at information on their work. A few decades ago nobody would have said that maybe a vaccine can help prevent cancer. It's fair to say most of us welcome the possibility a vaccine might be able to prevent these cancers.

Anonymous wrote:I know autism is at least in part genetic because various cousins have kids with autism.
So don't get me wrong. But it does seem like autism has exploded in numbers.

Why don't we keep an open mind and look at all the variables, not just the "accepted" causes?

Remember, Galileo proclaimed the earth was round and almost got burned at the stake for that heresy. He had the temerity to question the accepted flat earth belief of his time.

Not saying RFK Jr. is a Galileo, but at least let's explore potential environmental factors that might be causing susceptible individuals to develop autism.

Once again - if you can string together that set of words into sentences, you can also figure out that what RFK is saying is NOT a question founded in any sort of understanding of the current knowledge of autism. I don’t think anyone objects to research on how pollution affects fetuses for example. But Doge has gutted all of the capacity to do such research. RFK is not a doctor, not a scientist, and is making zero effort to foster legitimate inquiry.

I know autism is at least in part genetic because various cousins have kids with autism.
So don't get me wrong. But it does seem like autism has exploded in numbers.

Why don't we keep an open mind and look at all the variables, not just the "accepted" causes?

Remember, Galileo proclaimed the earth was round and almost got burned at the stake for that heresy. He had the temerity to question the accepted flat earth belief of his time.

Not saying RFK Jr. is a Galileo, but at least let's explore potential environmental factors that might be causing susceptible individuals to develop autism.