Anonymous wrote:Never forget the few ignorant parents who think their kids homework counts as a grade, just because the teacher put a smiley face on it.

It taught my kids some useful time management skills to get that smiley face, and for that I'm grateful. It was useful for them to have to learn before middle school that if you have practice on a given night, you should do all the work in your homework packet on the other nights. Prepared them to learn to look ahead and time manage when extracurriculars became more intense while homework simultaneously picked up later in life.

But the "homework doesn't help!" crowd will never see that stepping into something in bits and pieces is valuable.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine being someone strenuously arguing for more homework to own the libs.

It’s hilarious coming from the ignorant rubes.

Sigh. You guys must be at an ES that does actually HW or else at the HS level now. Our ES allowed HW when DS first started. Then the principal shifted to a no NW policy except for telling kids one year to do a certain number of minutes on that useless math website for non-English-speakers and read. But the reading requirement has zero accountability back to the teacher. They did not need to even keep a list of books read to turn in let alone write up any book reports on them. Upshot beimg DS went into MS having had no real HW for years and even now has minimal amts - almost always finishes it in study hall.

Anonymous wrote:Imagine being someone strenuously arguing for more homework to own the libs.

It’s hilarious coming from the ignorant rubes.

Anonymous wrote:I don't have a child in FFX but my coworker just claimed that kids are "not allowed to be given homework in FFX county as a matter of district policy because it negatively disadvantages minority kids." I find that highly improbable, but I would love to know. He gets on my nerves for a host of other reasons, so I'd really like to prove him wrong.

Surprise OP:

He was mostly right. I understand you were desperate “prove him wrong.”

But it does appear to be an FCPS policy to discourage (though not strictly a uniform ban) homework, while simultaneously making homework no longer graded or part of the grade.

It also appears to have been driven by FCPS’ commitment to racial equity.

Our elementary school had a no homework policy, it was lovely

Anonymous wrote:Imagine being someone strenuously arguing for more homework to own the libs.

I know, right!!

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think that’s an official thing but most schools have stopped giving homework in the last several years. Although I’ve read that central office is going to be pushing for it again county wide.

“Most schools…” There are 200 schools in FCPS. 140 of them are elementary schools. Let’s saying you’re opining about those elementary schools only. What position do you have that would be qualified to speak about over 70 (seventy!) elementary schools?

Exactly.

Some posters are pushing an agenda here.

OP here. My coworker definitely had an agenda with that statement. He is very proudly MAGA and takes every opportunity to spew his nonsense. I just want him to start backing up some of the ridiculous stuff he says.

The problem is it’s not nonsense. He’s absolutely right.

Read his original statement and tell me how he was right. Schools still give homework and there is no district wide policy that they are not allowed to give homework. So yes, it was total nonsense.

Our school has an unofficial policy against homework for the sake of homework. The teachers do occasionally send home additional work for students who need more practice with a concept and they are also expected to finish any work not completed in class at home.

Anonymous wrote:We have a “no homework” elementary school in FCPS. It is an official school policy. Our principal says studies show that homework at those ages doesn’t improve outcomes. They are asked to read nightly, but other than that, no homework.

That’s not official, it’s unofficial.

Anonymous wrote:We have a “no homework” elementary school in FCPS. It is an official school policy. Our principal says studies show that homework at those ages doesn’t improve outcomes. They are asked to read nightly, but other than that, no homework.

So there is problem with inconsistency from school to school in FCPS. Site based management and now possible boundary changes ...It's still a mess. ie a junk principal retired and the AP got promoted. Elementary academics improved. That included class books rather than 2-3 pages handed out and copied.

Same time period people were doing whatever it took to get their kids out into a center. At least 2 other center feeders had lower sending rates of qualified students. Students need to learn the process of being a student. A great teacher omce said 1st grade is solidifying learning to read and 2nd grade is reading to learn.

Floris on homework- note the time limits and reading plus longer term projects are extra. Total common sense. Is it the reality? https://florises.fcps.edu/node/2488
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/15/1245896.page
3rd grader gets math, language arts, and science/health/social studies (depending on the rotation) homework every week. We also get tons of completed/graded work back every week. So. Much. Paper.

This is a center school and the experience is wildly different than our base school (which we also liked, but its a no homework school and minimal work came home).

We have a “no homework” elementary school in FCPS. It is an official school policy. Our principal says studies show that homework at those ages doesn’t improve outcomes. They are asked to read nightly, but other than that, no homework.

Anonymous wrote:Can you point to the area on the elementary school report card that is for “homework?” Didn’t think so.

You kids 1-2-3-4 on their report card is closely tied to how they do on tests or performance based assessments.

If your kid gets a 59 on the math test but they did all their homework, they might get a 3 instead of the 2 that they deserve, but that’s up to the teacher. Saying homework counts is stretching.

Thanks. This was my impression of how ES has become in our pyramid.

First no homework, next no schoolwork, everyone gets As, equity achieved. Everybody wins, colleges will just add more remedial courses. Will need the money to cover grant losses.

As the character Hannibal Smith from the A Team used to say, love it when a plan comes together.

Imagine being someone strenuously arguing for more homework to own the libs.

Ah yes- we arrive at the point when this forum is entirely useless because it’s all people trying to scare everyone to go mama bear and vote their way in the governor’s race. I’m out of here until Mid November