Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 21:03     Subject: The question no one is asking: SHOULD there be manufacturing in the US?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We don’t have enough of a underclass to man all these factories you are dreaming of. Plus why do we want to ruin our land with factories everywhere? There is a reason most goods are made in third world countries.


Bruh, we literally have tent cities under every overpass and you're saying we don't have a underclass?


I hate to break it to you but Junkie Bob and Crackhead Carl and friends are not suited for employment anywhere. Not at the hypothetical light bulb factory, not at the Amazon warehouse, or at Dunkin or Chipotle or anywhere.


So more mental health resources are needed for sure but drug abuse proliferates due to the despair of being in a chronically depressed economic neighborhood or town.


The person who maybe abuses prescription pain pills, or is an alcoholic, but is living in a house in a town somewhere is MILES ahead of the tent city crackheads. Much higher functioning. They could be rehabbed. But if you’re at a point where you’ve already alienated everyone you knew and are sleeping on the street or in an encampment in the woods, you’re too far gone.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 21:02     Subject: Re:The question no one is asking: SHOULD there be manufacturing in the US?
Anonymous wrote:


Just 1 more. https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/fast-fashion-ghana-clothes-waste-b2132399.html


Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 20:59     Subject: The question no one is asking: SHOULD there be manufacturing in the US?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We don’t have enough of a underclass to man all these factories you are dreaming of. Plus why do we want to ruin our land with factories everywhere? There is a reason most goods are made in third world countries.


Bruh, we literally have tent cities under every overpass and you're saying we don't have a underclass?


I hate to break it to you but Junkie Bob and Crackhead Carl and friends are not suited for employment anywhere. Not at the hypothetical light bulb factory, not at the Amazon warehouse, or at Dunkin or Chipotle or anywhere.


So more mental health resources are needed for sure but drug abuse proliferates due to the despair of being in a chronically depressed economic neighborhood or town.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 20:57     Subject: Re:The question no one is asking: SHOULD there be manufacturing in the US?
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 20:56     Subject: The question no one is asking: SHOULD there be manufacturing in the US?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We don’t have enough of a underclass to man all these factories you are dreaming of. Plus why do we want to ruin our land with factories everywhere? There is a reason most goods are made in third world countries.


Bruh, we literally have tent cities under every overpass and you're saying we don't have a underclass?


I hate to break it to you but Junkie Bob and Crackhead Carl and friends are not suited for employment anywhere. Not at the hypothetical light bulb factory, not at the Amazon warehouse, or at Dunkin or Chipotle or anywhere.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 20:55     Subject: The question no one is asking: SHOULD there be manufacturing in the US?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:self sufficency
quality control
better polution standards in US than overseas
Strengthening the US
Price

Is this question that stupid? Its like you're 18 and have never been in the real world. Producing our goods overseas isnt better than producing goods in the US.

I question the education of people here


Okay, so, you might think this, but in some industries, you'd be astoundingly wrong. I work in textiles. We simply cannot produce cloth here for the cost most people are accustomed to paying for cloth and finished clothing. We have very few textile mills at all, the knowledge pool of how to operate them is dwindling to near-extinction levels, and the cost to scale up to provide for a nation's needs would be astronomical. To meet the standards for acceptable pollution we'd likely accept here (even with an EPA-antagonistic administration trying to roll current regulations back), we'd face incredibly slow production times and limited output that would make providing "fast fashion" like we're accustomed to a non-starter. And the price to do all of this, while paying US citizens a livable(ish) wage, would be ridiculous. The $10 tees you're used to having (which will be $15+ after tariffs, btw) would be something like $300 each, and you'd value them properly because the wait to get a new one would be years.

The end result might be a good thing, overall, but the process of getting there would catastrophically upend the way we do things here, and this is just my somewhat niche industry's perspective. Trump 1.0 tariffs killed a lot of the smaller producers. Those who are left are barely alive. At least where I am, this simply doesn't work the way you want it to or think it should.


But maybe this shouldn't exist. https://www.wired.com/story/fashion-disposal-environment/

Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 20:45     Subject: The question no one is asking: SHOULD there be manufacturing in the US?
Factories already struggle to find people who can pass a drug test, show up on time and put a phone away for 8 hours.

Brining factories back is a pipe dream.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 20:35     Subject: The question no one is asking: SHOULD there be manufacturing in the US?
Anonymous wrote:Not a dumb question. The WSJ reported that is IPhones were made in America, they would cost $30k each. No American wants to work for subpar wages nor wants to pay high prices.


That's an obviously fake number.

American's would prefer to be lottery winners and social media influencers, but work other jobs...
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 20:29     Subject: The question no one is asking: SHOULD there be manufacturing in the US?
our unemployment rate is very low...who will do the work?
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 20:28     Subject: The question no one is asking: SHOULD there be manufacturing in the US?
Anonymous wrote:19:43 is an evil elitist.



Well feel free to sign up for minimum wage in the textile factory…bring your kid.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 20:00     Subject: The question no one is asking: SHOULD there be manufacturing in the US?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We don’t have enough of a underclass to man all these factories you are dreaming of. Plus why do we want to ruin our land with factories everywhere? There is a reason most goods are made in third world countries.


Bruh, we literally have tent cities under every overpass and you're saying we don't have a underclass?


Those people are mentally ill, they will not fill even low skill factory jobs. Employers are not hiring tent city residents.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 19:58     Subject: The question no one is asking: SHOULD there be manufacturing in the US?
Plenty of good reasons to onshore some manufacturing.

But jobs is not a good reason since they are not desirable. If there is a retail job that pays $20/hr and a factory job at the same rate, your factory will get no workers. Factory jobs need to pay at least a 50% premium to attract the same level of worker. Even for skilled jobs, they require premium pay to work in a factory.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 19:58     Subject: The question no one is asking: SHOULD there be manufacturing in the US?
^" if"
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 19:56     Subject: The question no one is asking: SHOULD there be manufacturing in the US?
Not a dumb question. The WSJ reported that is IPhones were made in America, they would cost $30k each. No American wants to work for subpar wages nor wants to pay high prices.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2025 19:54     Subject: The question no one is asking: SHOULD there be manufacturing in the US?
Anonymous wrote:We don’t have enough of a underclass to man all these factories you are dreaming of. Plus why do we want to ruin our land with factories everywhere? There is a reason most goods are made in third world countries.


Bruh, we literally have tent cities under every overpass and you're saying we don't have an underclass?