Anonymous wrote:I’m happy to see Pitt starting to get more recognition. I don’t have a kid there but know so many really bright kids there now.
Anonymous wrote:My DH was accepted to both West Point and Annapolis. Smartest humN being i have ever met. My traditional ivy fronds cant compare.
Anonymous wrote:I agree the name "new ivy" irks. Wish it were called Top 20 schools producing sought after students or similar. But Ivy gets the clicks.
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the methodology here?
I think you're overthinking it, the point they're making is that the ivies were traditionally the most sought over by employers but this is becoming less true and instead here are 20 schools whose graduates are super highly sought overAnonymous wrote:So I guess they are defining 'Ivy'...how?
Ivies (other than Cornell) are SMALL. They are liberal arts oriented--with emphasis on knowledge exploration and well-roundedness. Most are undergrad focused with very small class sizes. The campus is old and ivy-covered---in New England.
I get a place like W&M, etc being labeled Ivy-like-it fits the bill--but some of these others are just absolutely nuts---Hopkins (about the least like an Ivy in environment)--a military academy (huh?), huge schools (not)...
How about they just call the list 'very good schools'---but using the 'Ivy' moniker just doesn't fit.
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the methodology here?
To identify which public and private schools are eclipsing the Ivy League, we started with a list of all degree-granting, four-year public and private, not-for-profit colleges in the United States using the most recent data available from the National Center for Education Statistics. We removed the traditional Ivy schools—Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Penn, Princeton and Yale—as well as the four “Ivy plus” colleges, Stanford, MIT, Duke and the University of Chicago. To be considered for the New Ivies list, colleges had to meet three criteria. First, size: the private schools must enroll at least 3,500 students, and the public colleges 4,000 students. Second, selectivity: private colleges must admit fewer than 20% of their applicants, and public colleges must admit fewer than 50%. And third, high test scores. The private Forbes New Ivies admit students with a median SAT of 1530 and a median ACT of 34. The public schools admit students with a median SAT of 1410 and a median ACT of 32. The schools that met all three criteria were put in front of employers in a survey to subscribers to Forbes’ C-suite newsletters.
Anonymous wrote:Could someone post the full list of schools?