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Anonymous wrote:Reputation of major is what matters.

I am paying for GW's Elliott School of International Affairs because it's ranked in the top 10 worldwide. Kid was accepted at UMD Honors (it was his safety), but there's just no comparison for that specific major.

Isn’t GW private? I’m confused

It is. I pay 65K for it (merit aid) instead of 30K instate, which is why I thought it merited inclusion in this discussion. The broader question isn’t OOS vs in state. It’s what are parents prepared to pay for if not the instate option, and why?

I say, major quality is an important factor.

Hmmm, I think that’s a different topic. The in-state v OOS public is more hotly debated because you’re paying $70k-$80k for a public university with large classes, potential underfunding, lots of red tape and bureaucracy, facilities that may need TLC, and so on.

Anonymous wrote:We only have UMD, good school but not great so not much of a choice.

Subjective. Many would say this is selling it short.

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Anonymous wrote:To answer this question, you need to know the OOS school and the in-state option.

A friend is sending his daughter to UVA OOS. No way would she have considered Penn State. Form our high school, Penn State doesn't really attract high stat kids. So, the comparison isn't UVA to Penn State but UVA to UM, Vanderbilt, etc.

DP. That’s so interesting to me. In my state, Penn State is viewed very favorably and does attract good students. My dc would likely choose it over our in state options (NY).

Vanderbilt is not a state school.

I know Vandy is not a state school. I was using it as an example. Smart kids, at our high school, are not picking in-state options. They are going OOS to a state school (UVA, UM or Wisconsin, etc.) or to a private.

The question is not about what they are picking, but rather if anyone later had second thoughts

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Anonymous wrote:I would but DD did not get accepted so sending to a nearby state and they’re offering merit that comes in at instate rate. Don’t forget instates are very competitive and not everyone gets in.

But did your DD only apply to one? MD has many state schools and it’s hard to imagine getting rejected at all of them and still being accepted at an OOS.

We’re new to this but our DD is going to an in state over the pricier OOS options. Even with merit aid the price over four years was about $35k more for OOS. We visited and then made a list of pros and cons for all of them and couldn’t figure out a good reason to spend that extra $35k. So she chose one of her in state options.

Everyone’s financial situation is different and I’m not here to comment on yours. But for a lot of people an extra $35k in total spread across four years isn’t a dealbreaker.

Lol I love how someone always has to come in sniffing, letting everyone know they have money.

But I think for some of us it’s not just the question of whether we have the money, but why it would make sense to spend it on another states schools.

To be fair, that comes out to $730/mo over the four years which is a car payment for some people. Some families would be willing to drive an older car for those four years and put that money into their kids education.

Yes, it’s money, but it’s not out of reach for everyone.

Yeah but this isn’t a conversation about
Putting money into your Kid’s education. The conversation is about unnecessary spending for that education. I mean I were not talking about sending your MIT admitted student to Frostburg.

Because for many people it isn’t unnecessary. You are paying for a different experience, better program, better career outcomes, etc.

My niece from Indiana ended up at South Carolina. She pays more though not that much after merit. I don’t think the school is better but she loves it and wanted to get away for school and into a different environment. Her parents can easily afford the difference so they don’t mind.

But didn’t the OP reference spending ‘$$$’ prices for a OOS state school? So I don’t think anyone is discussing situations where the financials are fairly similar, or where dc has a full ride.

Sure, but it depends on how much of a difference you consider $$$. I pointed out in this back and forth that $35k across four years (someone else’s point) wasn’t that big of a deal to some people and got a pretty hostile reaction to that idea, as well as people claiming it was an unnecessary expense. Which is why I gave this example.

Obviously the bigger the gap in costs, the harder it is to justify. Still not impossible, though, depending on the schools in question, the kid’s goals, and the financial situation of the family.

Anonymous wrote:We are making this decision right now. In-state or a marginally better OOS program at a total cost of 100K. Thankfully, DC understands the value of 100K and is leaning toward the in-state option. I will support my child's decision regardless but truthfully I breathed a sigh of relief when DC said she'd rather save the money.

So did my kid. I was happily surprised. Even these young adults are realizing the costs of college are a bit much.

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Anonymous wrote:To answer this question, you need to know the OOS school and the in-state option.

A friend is sending his daughter to UVA OOS. No way would she have considered Penn State. Form our high school, Penn State doesn't really attract high stat kids. So, the comparison isn't UVA to Penn State but UVA to UM, Vanderbilt, etc.

DP. That’s so interesting to me. In my state, Penn State is viewed very favorably and does attract good students. My dc would likely choose it over our in state options (NY).

Vanderbilt is not a state school.

I know Vandy is not a state school. I was using it as an example. Smart kids, at our high school, are not picking in-state options. They are going OOS to a state school (UVA, UM or Wisconsin, etc.) or to a private.

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Anonymous wrote:Reputation of major is what matters.

I am paying for GW's Elliott School of International Affairs because it's ranked in the top 10 worldwide. Kid was accepted at UMD Honors (it was his safety), but there's just no comparison for that specific major.

Isn’t GW private? I’m confused

It is. I pay 65K for it (merit aid) instead of 30K instate, which is why I thought it merited inclusion in this discussion. The broader question isn’t OOS vs in state. It’s what are parents prepared to pay for if not the instate option, and why?

I say, major quality is an important factor.

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Anonymous wrote:No regrets. DS chose UMD OOS w some merit ($46k COA) v WM ($42k) for CS. Likely would have selected UVA but was WL. No interest in VT.

Why no interest in VT? Seems like a decent school for CS. What do you and your DS like about the UMD experience? Thanks

From what I have learned the biggest dealbreaker for going to VT is the rural/remote location. Some kids prefer more of a city-vibe. That is really it when I ask them. Nothing about the academics or amazing school spirit, they just want a city-vibe in the surrounding area. Good or bad, that is usually the reason.

My dc chose a school largely based on location (city) although I’m not sure he’d do it again. He doesn’t want to work in that city after graduation and although it’s a nice city, he’s so involved in school activities that the backdrop isn’t nearly as important as he thought it would be

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Anonymous wrote:I would but DD did not get accepted so sending to a nearby state and they’re offering merit that comes in at instate rate. Don’t forget instates are very competitive and not everyone gets in.

But did your DD only apply to one? MD has many state schools and it’s hard to imagine getting rejected at all of them and still being accepted at an OOS.

We’re new to this but our DD is going to an in state over the pricier OOS options. Even with merit aid the price over four years was about $35k more for OOS. We visited and then made a list of pros and cons for all of them and couldn’t figure out a good reason to spend that extra $35k. So she chose one of her in state options.

Same for my son when he was deciding last year. He’s doing well in state and is at a well regarded university, but I feel a bit badly because I think he would have loved nicer weather and the school spirit at some of the OOS universities. Greek life was not too appealing to him, so who knows how things would have turned out. The job market is strange indeed, so maybe he’ll end up somewhere “fun” for internships or work.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of states where going OOS is a big upgrade over the in-state schools. It just depends what your options are.

Is that perception or reality?

Reality. You seriously think UDC can compete with an R1? And that’s the standard. If your position is that NO person could EVER rationally go OOS, you’re saying UDC over UMich, every time, for every student, even if the student gets a full ride to the OOS school.

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But didn’t the OP reference spending ‘$$$’ prices for a OOS state school? So I don’t think anyone is discussing situations where the financials are fairly similar, or where dc has a full ride.

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Anonymous wrote:I would but DD did not get accepted so sending to a nearby state and they’re offering merit that comes in at instate rate. Don’t forget instates are very competitive and not everyone gets in.

But did your DD only apply to one? MD has many state schools and it’s hard to imagine getting rejected at all of them and still being accepted at an OOS.

We’re new to this but our DD is going to an in state over the pricier OOS options. Even with merit aid the price over four years was about $35k more for OOS. We visited and then made a list of pros and cons for all of them and couldn’t figure out a good reason to spend that extra $35k. So she chose one of her in state options.

Everyone’s financial situation is different and I’m not here to comment on yours. But for a lot of people an extra $35k in total spread across four years isn’t a dealbreaker.

Lol I love how someone always has to come in sniffing, letting everyone know they have money.

But I think for some of us it’s not just the question of whether we have the money, but why it would make sense to spend it on another states schools.

To be fair, that comes out to $730/mo over the four years which is a car payment for some people. Some families would be willing to drive an older car for those four years and put that money into their kids education.

Yes, it’s money, but it’s not out of reach for everyone.

Yeah but this isn’t a conversation about
Putting money into your Kid’s education. The conversation is about unnecessary spending for that education. I mean I were not talking about sending your MIT admitted student to Frostburg.

Because for many people it isn’t unnecessary. You are paying for a different experience, better program, better career outcomes, etc.

My niece from Indiana ended up at South Carolina. She pays more though not that much after merit. I don’t think the school is better but she loves it and wanted to get away for school and into a different environment. Her parents can easily afford the difference so they don’t mind.

But didn’t the OP reference spending ‘$$$’ prices for a OOS state school? So I don’t think anyone is discussing situations where the financials are fairly similar, or where dc has a full ride.

Anonymous wrote:To answer this question, you need to know the OOS school and the in-state option.

A friend is sending his daughter to UVA OOS. No way would she have considered Penn State. Form our high school, Penn State doesn't really attract high stat kids. So, the comparison isn't UVA to Penn State but UVA to UM, Vanderbilt, etc.

DP. That’s so interesting to me. In my state, Penn State is viewed very favorably and does attract good students. My dc would likely choose it over our in state options (NY).

Vanderbilt is not a state school.

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Anonymous wrote:No regrets. DS chose UMD OOS w some merit ($46k COA) v WM ($42k) for CS. Likely would have selected UVA but was WL. No interest in VT.

Why no interest in VT? Seems like a decent school for CS. What do you and your DS like about the UMD experience? Thanks

From what I have learned the biggest dealbreaker for going to VT is the rural/remote location. Some kids prefer more of a city-vibe. That is really it when I ask them. Nothing about the academics or amazing school spirit, they just want a city-vibe in the surrounding area. Good or bad, that is usually the reason.

To answer this question, you need to know the OOS school and the in-state option.

A friend is sending his daughter to UVA OOS. No way would she have considered Penn State. Form our high school, Penn State doesn't really attract high stat kids. So, the comparison isn't UVA to Penn State but UVA to UM, Vanderbilt, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:No regrets. DS chose UMD OOS w some merit ($46k COA) v WM ($42k) for CS. Likely would have selected UVA but was WL. No interest in VT.

Why no interest in VT? Seems like a decent school for CS. What do you and your DS like about the UMD experience? Thanks

Still trying to figure that out two years later...responses typically "didn't like it", "didn't want to" and "i don't know".
Not much of a partier, but having a blast socially. Really likes the other students. Developed multiple friend groups. Not knowing anyone, think the honors college he was in did a great job with introductions. Club sports. CS related club. Attends multiple athletic events.

Seems to like the program. Was able to get a UMD/NOAA internship last summer after freshman year. Lined up an internship with defense contractor in Arlington for this summer. He's definitely a TERP!