Anonymous
03/20/2025 14:52
Subject: Re:Georgetown Fellow taken outside his home in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, this is fascism. He is being punished for social media posts critical of Israel and India. That is all he did.
but if a conservative dares to say the N word out loud, even as a joke or quoting somebody else, you probably believe that they should be canceled or worse. the left always accuses others of exactly what they are doing themselves.
Huh? Let's bring the receipts. Who has been deported for saying that? I think I'm going to be waiting a looooong time.
Anonymous
03/20/2025 14:41
Subject: Re:Georgetown Fellow taken outside his home in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, this is fascism. He is being punished for social media posts critical of Israel and India. That is all he did.
but if a conservative dares to say the N word out loud, even as a joke or quoting somebody else, you probably believe that they should be canceled or worse. the left always accuses others of exactly what they are doing themselves.
What conservative got arrested and deported for saying the N word?
Anonymous
03/20/2025 14:39
Subject: Re:Georgetown Fellow taken outside his home in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Read the artcile. There was more than just that.
He is a Hamas sympathizer. No need for more of those in this country.
NP. I read the article and if this is the evidence against him there is nothing here. I see a writer making all sorts of interpretations and stating them as facts. The journalist interprets the guy's post about how Hamas "dealt" with children, which at worst is ambiguous and more likely sounds critical to me, as support for Hamas?? How?! And just because because a random article calls it a defense/justification of Hamas, we accept it?
Here is another passage:
In another post, he stated that Palestine’s elected government must sustain its resistance, legitimizing Hamas’s violent actions. Years ago, he expressed support for Hamas founder Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, posting a video saying, “This is what Hamas argues. Sheikh Yaseen giving the reasons why his group is fighting for their land which was stolen,” legitimizing Hamas’s violent actions.
Again... what? The quote in no way "legitimizes Hamas's violent actions" or even "expresses support." It reports what Hamas has said.
I have no clue whether this man is a Hamas sympathizer or not but one poorly written article, full of assumptions and illogical leaps, only proves that people didn't like him.
Insane that anyone could use that article as evidence. What is wrong with people's critical thinking skills?
Why are people with sketchy associations and ambiguous social media presence being allowed to remain in the country? Out of 8 billion people on the planet how hard could it possibly be to find grad students, doctors and teaching fellows who are not sympathetic to Hamas and/or its tactics and/or directly related/connected to Hamas?
We do not need to be nuanced about this or get it perfectly right.
Anonymous
03/20/2025 14:29
Subject: Georgetown Fellow taken outside his home in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From various articles:
A DHS spokesperson claimed the Georgetown student had “close connections” to a senior adviser to Hamas, which Secretary of State Marco Rubio determined “rendered him deportable” under the Immigration and Nationality Act on March 15.
Yet to be confirmed. But regardless, guilt by association is not a thing in America.
Certainly is. You ever hear of RICO?
Moreover, we informally judge people based on associations all the time. Trump and the Proud Boys, for example.
Devil is in the details.
You cannot be prosecuted under RICO because your father in law is in the mob. Are you actually this dumb?
Obviously. But if you engage in predicate acts, you can be charged with racketeering if those acts are connected to an enterprise.
It’s a form of guilt by association.
Likewise, (in many states) a person can be held responsible for the acts of a co-conspirator even if s/he did not plan, agree to, or even directly participate in those acts.
In other words, yes, guilt by association is a “thing” in multiple areas of the law.
So what predicate acts did he engage in?
DP is just trying to gaslight us and defend the orange man
Anonymous
03/20/2025 14:23
Subject: Georgetown Fellow taken outside his home in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where’s the poster who freaks out that any kind of internet moderation is “totalitarian “? She should read this. This is fascism, people.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/19/trump-deportation-georgetown-graduate-student-00239754
Why are agents wearing masks?
How long are people going to keep acting like this is all ok and normal?
Anonymous
03/20/2025 14:22
Subject: Re:Georgetown Fellow taken outside his home in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:
Read the artcile. There was more than just that.
He is a Hamas sympathizer. No need for more of those in this country.
NP. I read the article and if this is the evidence against him there is nothing here. I see a writer making all sorts of interpretations and stating them as facts. The journalist interprets the guy's post about how Hamas "dealt" with children, which at worst is ambiguous and more likely sounds critical to me, as support for Hamas?? How?! And just because because a random article calls it a defense/justification of Hamas, we accept it?
Here is another passage:
In another post, he stated that Palestine’s elected government must sustain its resistance, legitimizing Hamas’s violent actions. Years ago, he expressed support for Hamas founder Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, posting a video saying, “This is what Hamas argues. Sheikh Yaseen giving the reasons why his group is fighting for their land which was stolen,” legitimizing Hamas’s violent actions.
Again... what? The quote in no way "legitimizes Hamas's violent actions" or even "expresses support." It reports what Hamas has said.
I have no clue whether this man is a Hamas sympathizer or not but one poorly written article, full of assumptions and illogical leaps, only proves that people didn't like him.
Insane that anyone could use that article as evidence. What is wrong with people's critical thinking skills?
Anonymous
03/20/2025 14:08
Subject: Georgetown Fellow taken outside his home in Arlington
The US is not at war with Hamas. When will we be free of Israeli oppression in the US?
Anonymous
03/20/2025 14:05
Subject: Georgetown Fellow taken outside his home in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:so now we have professors, researcher, people who are foriegn (like the white german person and the white french person) and a variety of people of hispanic origin all being harassed, detained and deported without cause or warrant.
MAGAs, you want to explain this?
They are all criminals and terrorists. Deport e every single one them - all 5 million out of 22 million illegals.
Anonymous
03/20/2025 14:05
Subject: Re:Georgetown Fellow taken outside his home in Arlington
2 people on the entire planet taken at random are connected by at most 6.6 degrees of separation. Seems to me that guilt by association could convict just about anybody in the country.
Let's see, iI know a Canadian couple with green cards, they've lived in the US for 30 years(he runs a US branch of a Canadian company). When our kids were young we were part of a family support group for families of kids with mental health/neuro atypical stuff--depression, autism, ADHD, what have you. We were all close and had group events weekly for parents and kids. One of the kids from the group is married to a a Palestinian born in the US whose family was displaced to Lebanon in 1948. She has family in the US, Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan. She supports the people of Gaza. So do our Canadian friends (who have European ancestry, mostly French), and the wife posts on social media about the death and destruction in Gaza. Should she be deported?
Let's see, iI know a Canadian couple with green cards, they've lived in the US for 30 years(he runs a US branch of a Canadian company). When our kids were young we were part of a family support group for families of kids with mental health/neuro atypical stuff--depression, autism, ADHD, what have you. We were all close and had group events weekly for parents and kids. One of the kids from the group is married to a a Palestinian born in the US whose family was displaced to Lebanon in 1948. She has family in the US, Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan. She supports the people of Gaza. So do our Canadian friends (who have European ancestry, mostly French), and the wife posts on social media about the death and destruction in Gaza. Should she be deported?
Anonymous
03/20/2025 14:04
Subject: Georgetown Fellow taken outside his home in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From various articles:
A DHS spokesperson claimed the Georgetown student had “close connections” to a senior adviser to Hamas, which Secretary of State Marco Rubio determined “rendered him deportable” under the Immigration and Nationality Act on March 15.
Yet to be confirmed. But regardless, guilt by association is not a thing in America.
Let the facts play out. The public does not know what those close connections are and/or whether he took any steps to support Hamas.
Tell it to the professional soccer player who is currently slave labor in an El Salvador gulag right now because Trump and ICE are sloppy AF.
!!! Can you share info?
Anonymous
03/20/2025 14:04
Subject: Re:Georgetown Fellow taken outside his home in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:Yes, this is fascism. He is being punished for social media posts critical of Israel and India. That is all he did.
I’ve been skeptical about the fascism label but there’s no denying what this is.
Anonymous
03/20/2025 14:00
Subject: Georgetown Fellow taken outside his home in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:If you know anyone traveling to the US from abroad, make sure they scrub their text messages before they arrive. Or, better yet, have them travel with a phone bought just for travel. Apparently, the Thought Police (authorities at US ports of entry) can ask to see your cell phone and can check your text messages. Don't speak ill of Dear Leader--or else! Wonder how long before they start censoring citizens...
French scientist denied US entry after phone messages critical of Trump found
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/trump-musk-french-scientist-detained
Better still travel advisories to the US should be issued by all countries citing High Security risk and imprisonment by the thought police,!
Anonymous
03/20/2025 13:57
Subject: Georgetown Fellow taken outside his home in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From various articles:
A DHS spokesperson claimed the Georgetown student had “close connections” to a senior adviser to Hamas, which Secretary of State Marco Rubio determined “rendered him deportable” under the Immigration and Nationality Act on March 15.
Yet to be confirmed. But regardless, guilt by association is not a thing in America.
Certainly is. You ever hear of RICO?
Moreover, we informally judge people based on associations all the time. Trump and the Proud Boys, for example.
Devil is in the details.
You cannot be prosecuted under RICO because your father in law is in the mob. Are you actually this dumb?
Obviously. But if you engage in predicate acts, you can be charged with racketeering if those acts are connected to an enterprise.
It’s a form of guilt by association.
Likewise, (in many states) a person can be held responsible for the acts of a co-conspirator even if s/he did not plan, agree to, or even directly participate in those acts.
In other words, yes, guilt by association is a “thing” in multiple areas of the law.
How can you be a co-conspirator without being involved in some degree in planning or agreeing to such acts? It's kinda the definition:
This is from the website of a law firm that does white collar federal defense:
The agreement by two or more persons is the essence of the crime. If there is no agreement, there can be no conspiracy.
The co-conspirators must agree to commit a federal crime or to defraud the United States or any federal agency in any manner and for any purpose.
At least one co-conspirator must take an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy.
By your reasoning the owner of a gas station where someone involved in a crime fills their tank could be a co-conspirator if the vehicle was being used in furtherance of a conspiracy.
Anonymous
03/20/2025 13:56
Subject: Georgetown Fellow taken outside his home in Arlington
Again, you're missing the forest for the trees. Trump is attempting to thwart the rule of law and establish himself as the sole judge and jury. As bad as it is, this is just another test balloon.
Anonymous
03/20/2025 13:54
Subject: Georgetown Fellow taken outside his home in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:Where’s the poster who freaks out that any kind of internet moderation is “totalitarian “? She should read this. This is fascism, people.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/19/trump-deportation-georgetown-graduate-student-00239754
I could not read the entire article because my disgust for Trump and his entire administration makes me vomit!