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Anonymous wrote:No decent woman would have married vance or trump.
Usha definitely profited from DEI so why is she still around?

Actually, Vance definitely benefitted from DEI.

DEI (TM) wasn’t invented until 2020, years after Vance got into Yale.

Not all programs that expand access to underrepresented groups are DEI (TM) and DEI (TM) did not reach all underrepresented groups. In particular, DEI (TM) favored a worldview where privilege was measured by skin color, gender, and status as a sexual minority and almost completely ignored the actual current driver of inequality in our society which is money, class, and what kind of family you were born into.

(I put the TMs to mean Trademark, because so many people on this board do not understand the difference between the program invented in 2020 vs. actual diversity, equity, and inclusion. Sorry if it’s lame.)

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Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, from what we know of them in the past and from what people say about them, they both used to be decent people. They are both extremely smart and ambitious, let's stop with any insinuations.

JD Vance sold his soul and Usha is along for the ride. She looks miserable (she has a conscience or some sense of perspective).

The only thing I feel slightly sorry for is that in this ultra prejudiced country, they will receive more hate than the bigger villains because they are nerds, she is non-white and a woman, he has a resting smarmy face, etc. IMO they should be far down on the list of most hated, but still. They are complicit. They are part of the problem. They violated their principles to gain power. No sympathy for either.

The truth is..... they are both decent people who are smart and ambitious.
They simply vote differently than you and are on the opposite of the aisle.
Your hate overrides your reasoning.

The truth is …. Just a few years back JD said he couldn’t stand Trump, he said he was a fraud , exploiting people he doesn’t care about. That’s JD opinion. Trump hasn’t changed. In fact Trump confirmed he’s a fraud when he was convicted of it along with many other charges.

JD said he was afraid of Trump because of his treatment of immigrants, he found Trump reprehensible. In fact Trump has gotten bolder and nastier with immigrants.

So he swallowed any of that decency he might have had and paired with a fraud, a guy who exploits people and doesn’t care about the MAGAs, he paired up with a known piece of shit just to further his career.

Anonymous wrote:They will go down for their part in this, but what about the children? Do they have a caregiver who can whisk them away?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No decent woman would have married vance or trump.
Usha definitely profited from DEI so why is she still around?

Actually, Vance definitely benefitted from DEI.

DEI (TM) wasn’t invented until 2020, years after Vance got into Yale.

Not all programs that expand access to underrepresented groups are DEI (TM) and DEI (TM) did not reach all underrepresented groups. In particular, DEI (TM) favored a worldview where privilege was measured by skin color, gender, and status as a sexual minority and almost completely ignored the actual current driver of inequality in our society which is money, class, and what kind of family you were born into.

(I put the TMs to mean Trademark, because so many people on this board do not understand the difference between the program invented in 2020 vs. actual diversity, equity, and inclusion. Sorry if it’s lame.)

LOL, you're lame. These programs were not invented in 2020, there was simply a deepening of the commitment by institutions to these values in the wake of George Floyd's death. There isn't some "before" time and "after" time in this work.

blather blather blather.

We’re in the after times now. Future Dem candidates won’t be able to campaign on continuing the status quo of affirmative action. They’ll have to either let it go, or campaign on reinstating it. It’s an uphill battle. It’s unpopular.

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Anonymous wrote:No decent woman would have married vance or trump.
Usha definitely profited from DEI so why is she still around?

Usha Vance profited from parents who raised her well, working hard throughout her academic life and creating a strong career. It is weak white women who couldn’t compete with her who profited from DEI. How else could they have gotten into law school so that they could snag a high earner and become a SAHM.

Sure. But she's the one who laid down with the dogs and now is upset at having all the fleas.

+1 She said to "listen to him" when he made the comment about Haitians eating pets. No, I don't think she's decent.

Nobody decent would stand by that "man".

A man is a male person. There are good ones and bad ones. There’s no need to use quotations.

You need to have a spine to be a man.

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Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, from what we know of them in the past and from what people say about them, they both used to be decent people. They are both extremely smart and ambitious, let's stop with any insinuations.

JD Vance sold his soul and Usha is along for the ride. She looks miserable (she has a conscience or some sense of perspective).

The only thing I feel slightly sorry for is that in this ultra prejudiced country, they will receive more hate than the bigger villains because they are nerds, she is non-white and a woman, he has a resting smarmy face, etc. IMO they should be far down on the list of most hated, but still. They are complicit. They are part of the problem. They violated their principles to gain power. No sympathy for either.

The truth is..... they are both decent people who are smart and ambitious.
They simply vote differently than you and are on the opposite of the aisle.
Your hate overrides your reasoning.

But he said he will make up stories to tell people to get what he wants.
“ If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do.”

No. I don’t see how you can say that is okay. Lying to anyone to get what you want is just wrong. Ask any embezzler or criminal.

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Anonymous wrote:No decent woman would have married vance or trump.
Usha definitely profited from DEI so why is she still around?

Usha Vance profited from parents who raised her well, working hard throughout her academic life and creating a strong career. It is weak white women who couldn’t compete with her who profited from DEI. How else could they have gotten into law school so that they could snag a high earner and become a SAHM.

Sure. But she's the one who laid down with the dogs and now is upset at having all the fleas.

+1 She said to "listen to him" when he made the comment about Haitians eating pets. No, I don't think she's decent.

Nobody decent would stand by that "man".

A man is a male person. There are good ones and bad ones. There’s no need to use quotations.

You need to have a spine to be a man.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No decent woman would have married vance or trump.
Usha definitely profited from DEI so why is she still around?

Usha Vance profited from parents who raised her well, working hard throughout her academic life and creating a strong career. It is weak white women who couldn’t compete with her who profited from DEI. How else could they have gotten into law school so that they could snag a high earner and become a SAHM.

Sure. But she's the one who laid down with the dogs and now is upset at having all the fleas.

+1 She said to "listen to him" when he made the comment about Haitians eating pets. No, I don't think she's decent.

Nobody decent would stand by that "man".

A man is a male person. There are good ones and bad ones. There’s no need to use quotations.

Yes, per an executive order from so-called "man" Donald Trump, there are now only men and women, so anyone male is a "man". But I refuse to pollute the meaning of the word that way. A man holds his own, does what's right, wouldn't throw away his integrity for some mess...

JD Vance is a "man" but not a man.

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Anonymous wrote:No decent woman would have married vance or trump.
Usha definitely profited from DEI so why is she still around?

Usha Vance profited from parents who raised her well, working hard throughout her academic life and creating a strong career. It is weak white women who couldn’t compete with her who profited from DEI. How else could they have gotten into law school so that they could snag a high earner and become a SAHM.

Sure. But she's the one who laid down with the dogs and now is upset at having all the fleas.

+1 She said to "listen to him" when he made the comment about Haitians eating pets. No, I don't think she's decent.

Nobody decent would stand by that "man".

A man is a male person. There are good ones and bad ones. There’s no need to use quotations.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No decent woman would have married vance or trump.
Usha definitely profited from DEI so why is she still around?

Usha Vance profited from parents who raised her well, working hard throughout her academic life and creating a strong career. It is weak white women who couldn’t compete with her who profited from DEI. How else could they have gotten into law school so that they could snag a high earner and become a SAHM.

Sure. But she's the one who laid down with the dogs and now is upset at having all the fleas.

+1 She said to "listen to him" when he made the comment about Haitians eating pets. No, I don't think she's decent.

Nobody decent would stand by that "man".

A man is a male person. There are good ones and bad ones. There’s no need to use quotations.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No decent woman would have married vance or trump.
Usha definitely profited from DEI so why is she still around?

Actually, Vance definitely benefitted from DEI.

DEI (TM) wasn’t invented until 2020, years after Vance got into Yale.

Not all programs that expand access to underrepresented groups are DEI (TM) and DEI (TM) did not reach all underrepresented groups. In particular, DEI (TM) favored a worldview where privilege was measured by skin color, gender, and status as a sexual minority and almost completely ignored the actual current driver of inequality in our society which is money, class, and what kind of family you were born into.

(I put the TMs to mean Trademark, because so many people on this board do not understand the difference between the program invented in 2020 vs. actual diversity, equity, and inclusion. Sorry if it’s lame.)

LOL, you're lame. These programs were not invented in 2020, there was simply a deepening of the commitment by institutions to these values in the wake of George Floyd's death. There isn't some "before" time and "after" time in this work.

blather blather blather.

Then why are you peeps so up in arms about DEI getting canceled?

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Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, from what we know of them in the past and from what people say about them, they both used to be decent people. They are both extremely smart and ambitious, let's stop with any insinuations.

JD Vance sold his soul and Usha is along for the ride. She looks miserable (she has a conscience or some sense of perspective).

The only thing I feel slightly sorry for is that in this ultra prejudiced country, they will receive more hate than the bigger villains because they are nerds, she is non-white and a woman, he has a resting smarmy face, etc. IMO they should be far down on the list of most hated, but still. They are complicit. They are part of the problem. They violated their principles to gain power. No sympathy for either.

The truth is..... they are both decent people who are smart and ambitious.
They simply vote differently than you and are on the opposite of the aisle.
Your hate overrides your reasoning.

Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read much about Usha Vance so I found some articles. she was a Democrat until 2014 when she changed to Independent. She switched to Republican in time to vote for her husband. . She appears to be a decent kind person.

JD on the other hand is a d-bag with zero principles or allegiance to any causes. He saw through Trump and knew he would be bad for the country.

During Trump’s first election Vance said these things and many more:

“I cannot stand Trump because I think he’s a fraud…I think he’s a total fraud that is exploiting these people…. I don’t think he actually cares about folks.”

: “Trump makes people I care about afraid. Immigrants, Muslims, etc. Because of this I find him reprehensible. God wants better of us.”

These comments are spot on. 100% accurate based on Trump’s over 60 years of being in the public eye.

Trump didn’t find God and change into someone who cares about folks, he didn’t stop exploiting people, people are even more afraid now that he’s ignoring the courts.

Do people think Vance has a chance at the presidency?

Anonymous wrote:Vance will easily beat any Democratic challenger. So would any of ten possible Trump successors. Democrats, especially upper middle class ones who think we are “good people” merely due to our party affiliation, still don’t understand what has happened. Our party has imploded. Corporate America changed sides. The donor class changed sides. Now Trump is cutting off our ability to use taxpayer funds for ANY kind of political activism. We aren’t going to win again for decades.