Anonymous
Post 03/12/2025 07:51     Subject: And why are my Dem reps not standing up to Trump?

Anonymous wrote:So far the Democrats in Congress have acted as a unit. They've fought against everything Trump is trying to do. They've fought against audits and transparency, they've fought against cost-savings in government, they've fought against fraud reduction in government, and they've fought against border control. And they've fought FOR men in girls' sports.

Polls show that voter approval of the Democratic Party is dropping fast. Democrats are in a worse position than they were in back in November.

Four years of unpopular obstructionism will put Democratic re-election candidates in a terrible position. They need some actual achievements to point to, not just obstructionism. And the only achievements available will be bipartisan ones.

Whichever Democrats defect first and start working with Trump to pass popular parts of his agenda will be best positioned to hold onto their seats.


Exactly what are the popular parts of his agenda for Democrats?
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2025 07:50     Subject: And why are my Dem reps not standing up to Trump?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At this point it's political suicide to stand up to Trump. The only Democrats who survive in elected office will be the ones who cooperate and help him with his agenda. Sad but true.


Absolutely wrong and tone deaf.


+1. Any democrat that votes with Trump is at high risk of losing next time.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2025 07:44     Subject: And why are my Dem reps not standing up to Trump?

So far the Democrats in Congress have acted as a unit. They've fought against everything Trump is trying to do. They've fought against audits and transparency, they've fought against cost-savings in government, they've fought against fraud reduction in government, and they've fought against border control. And they've fought FOR men in girls' sports.

Polls show that voter approval of the Democratic Party is dropping fast. Democrats are in a worse position than they were in back in November.

Four years of unpopular obstructionism will put Democratic re-election candidates in a terrible position. They need some actual achievements to point to, not just obstructionism. And the only achievements available will be bipartisan ones.

Whichever Democrats defect first and start working with Trump to pass popular parts of his agenda will be best positioned to hold onto their seats.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2025 07:39     Subject: And why are my Dem reps not standing up to Trump?

Anonymous wrote:At this point it's political suicide to stand up to Trump. The only Democrats who survive in elected office will be the ones who cooperate and help him with his agenda. Sad but true.


Absolutely wrong and tone deaf.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2025 07:33     Subject: Re:And why are my Dem reps not standing up to Trump?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:We need to keep pressuring them. But instead of saying FU when they don’t do what we want, say Thank you when they take the tiniest step.

A PP is correct that most lawmakers think they are there to pass legislation. They are there to stop a coup. They aren’t mentally equipped for that.


That is their job. They are leaving illegalities up to the courts - and the courts are doing their job, too.

I would argue at this point it’s not about policy, it’s about stopping the coups. And Democrats are expecting the courts to save them when everything will only end up at the corrupt Roberts court.


I have no issue leaving it up to the courts. And I wouldn't call it "corrupt" - just because you don't agree with many of the SCOTUS decisions doesn't make it corrupt.


At least 3-4 of them LIED during confirmation. And 1 of them has SIGNIFICANT conflicts of interest. This is the very definition of corrupt and you know it.


+1

SCOTUS is corrupt AF
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2025 07:29     Subject: And why are my Dem reps not standing up to Trump?

At this point it's political suicide to stand up to Trump. The only Democrats who survive in elected office will be the ones who cooperate and help him with his agenda. Sad but true.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2025 22:23     Subject: And why are my Dem reps not standing up to Trump?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think every sitting member of the House and Senate should be voted out of office for this enabling or inaction.


I agree with this.


Totally.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2025 22:21     Subject: Re:And why are my Dem reps not standing up to Trump?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is Connelly in office ?

Who votes for an idiot like him. He is almost 80 part of the democrat generation that abandoned US workers.


His town hall last night was great. You don't think so?


No. He brought us Trump by constantly pushing for more and more immigration. Refused to mandate e-verify. Refused to limit H1B or OPT. Did NOTHING about southern border.

Just a worthless democrat.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2025 21:38     Subject: Re:And why are my Dem reps not standing up to Trump?

Anonymous wrote:Why is Connelly in office ?

Who votes for an idiot like him. He is almost 80 part of the democrat generation that abandoned US workers.


His town hall last night was great. You don't think so?
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2025 21:29     Subject: Re:And why are my Dem reps not standing up to Trump?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because they know Trump is doing what the majority of the American people want. I know you lefties here in your echo chamber can't see it but in the real world you guys are considered unhinged.

We won the electoral and popular vote. You didn't. Deal with it

It always cracks me up when you guys talk about the leftie echo chamber. Go outside of the MAGA echo chamber and everyone agrees Trump et al are unhinged. Unless everyone—and I mean everyone including our allies-are part of the Deep state. Go read a non-American newspaper. You really are part of a cult.


NP. The fundamental disconnect here is that the American people, by and large, don't care what people outside of America think of them. Concern for non-American's opinions is mostly limited to a certain subsection of the Democratic base.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2025 21:23     Subject: Re:And why are my Dem reps not standing up to Trump?

Why is Connelly in office ?

Who votes for an idiot like him. He is almost 80 part of the democrat generation that abandoned US workers.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2025 21:20     Subject: And why are my Dem reps not standing up to Trump?

Anonymous wrote:"The Senate voted 67-32 this evening to confirm Lori Chavez-DeRemer as Secretary of Labor. GOP Sens. Mitch McConnell, Rand Paul and Ted Budd voted against confirming her nomination while 17 Democrats voted with the rest of the Republican conference to confirm Chavez-DeRemer."

Do they not realize we are not fighting on issue/policy alignment but on perception?

I am so frustrated with the D party.

I know Ezra Klein's column this week and his book has some buzz going: https://slate.com/culture/2025/03/abundance-ezra-klein-democrats-book-derek-thompson.html) and I appreciate him and listen to his podcast but what has stuck out to me recently is David Brooks's remarks (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/06/opinion/david-brooks-trump-power.html) that perhaps the Dem issue is they at they don't lean into their base which is not working class Americans, but actually highlight educated and intellectual Americans.


Remember when the admin on this board claimed that illegal immigration is not an issue for democrats. What a doufus.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2025 20:11     Subject: Re:And why are my Dem reps not standing up to Trump?

I hope Jared Golden (D-ME) loses his seat next election. Maine is already in a world of hurt.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2025 20:08     Subject: Re:And why are my Dem reps not standing up to Trump?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:We need to keep pressuring them. But instead of saying FU when they don’t do what we want, say Thank you when they take the tiniest step.

A PP is correct that most lawmakers think they are there to pass legislation. They are there to stop a coup. They aren’t mentally equipped for that.


That is their job. They are leaving illegalities up to the courts - and the courts are doing their job, too.


And how will the courts enforce their rulings? They can't with out Congress. An ineffective Congress is a definite danger


This country has a culture of obeying court orders. We all know that when you get to the point of disobeying a court order, you are in the wrong. This is who we are.

There are two prominent people in our government today that do not believe in following court orders, and admittedly they are powerful people, but they are a tiny minority compared to the numbers of department heads, leaders, and the rank and file of the civil service. Court orders will be followed.


Uh if you say so


If you are a true American, you should hope so.


Oh I hope. alright. Boy, do I hope.

But I'm also thinking the recent actions by Trump are outside the pale. I don't want to just use wishful thinking.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2025 20:03     Subject: And why are my Dem reps not standing up to Trump?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think every sitting member of the House and Senate should be voted out of office for this enabling or inaction.


I agree with this.


I agree. They are parasites.