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Anonymous wrote:How about Colgate or Holy Cross. Bowdoin and Midd are smaller. HC has powerhouse alumni network and only 1 hour into Boston.

what's wrong with the list the kid has?

No non-athletes apply ED to Williams anymore; it's too crowded.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Known private/feeder in NYC. But classes are small so naviance data isn't robust.

Dartmouth is the one school that hasn't really taken any kids with a 3.8 (except a couple w 3.6ish - I assume athletes). So they don't seem willing to look past a 3.8. Which is fine.

We'll have our first 1-1 college counselor meeting in a month . Just want to start thinking.

The "one over the others" is Williams, but I think that's tough. He doesn't want to do Midd febs entry, and I don't think he'll have to. So in my mind that's the range: reach (Williams) and safety( Midd Febs) . But I could be wrong

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Anonymous wrote:High school is Gonzaga. Does that change the advice?

Let me ask my previous question in a different way: is your son’s GPA in the top 10 percent in Gonzaga? Top 20 percent?

At our school, the kids who are accepted to Dartmouth ED have GPAs around 93-95. They are not athletes or legacies. They are not in the top 10 percent but in the top 20-30 percent.

A 95% is only at the top 20-30% at your school? What school is this? Super high grading!

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get it. If he's so smart, hasn't he read all the professors' web pages and looked at what courses and clubs and research programs and summer programs, etc, are offered at each college, and figured out which is his first and second choice? He should know what he would write in his essay that would convey what he would contribute to the school's scholarship and community. DCUM cannot answer this for you.

I am genuinely puzzled by all these brilliant, rich, private schoool kids who don't bother to do their own research and figure out which colleges appeal to them and why.

Kindly, I don't expect that would you understand. Successful private school students that come from highly rigorous schools obviously have ideas about where they'd like to go to schools, but most of them are also working insane hours each day with school, sports, extracurricular, job, internship, etc. commitments. The parents that send their kids to these schools generally are more involved, or place a higher value on academics, therefore they will do their own research, too. A person who's child is lower energy and from a less demanding school would likely not understand these things. DP

NP. This doesn’t make any sense. What’s low energy about a kid actually doing their own research?

It does make me laugh, though, because two recent college tour guides wrapped up their tours by telling the group they chose the school because their mom told them to. Very impressive!

I don't understand the point of anything you just said. Low energy means if you go to school at 9:45 am in your pajama pants then come home and bed rot while looking on your phone for five hours you have more time to do a deep dive into colleges. If you have kids that are gone from the house 12 hours a day going from school, to activity/job, to hours of homework you understand why it's beneficial to have a parent also researching college. Honestly, the more people that are vested in a child's success, including that child, the better. Obviously, there are lots of public school kids that work this hard, too. My guess is that they also have involved parents. As you can see from your college tour guides (usually successful students), kids that have involved parents tend to be more successful and healthy young adults. Like I said, if you're not living that life, you won't understand. Peace.

DP: The difference here isn't energy, it's self-direction. Kids at top privates have less of it -- often because they've been strongly (and well) directed. Self-direction is not encouraged or supported. Your kid is interested in a sport? Parent finds them the best private coaches and the most competitive travel teams from an early age. Has a good mind for math? Parent steers the 6th grader to Russian Math school or the Art of Problem Solving.

Rich kids with connected parents have an entire support system to present them with curated options, which saves them time (how much time do parents spend on this site?) and also emotional energy.

So if you have a kid at a private school who is unusually self-directed and motivated with an unusual background or interest, is that memorable? What's the point of your post?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get it. If he's so smart, hasn't he read all the professors' web pages and looked at what courses and clubs and research programs and summer programs, etc, are offered at each college, and figured out which is his first and second choice? He should know what he would write in his essay that would convey what he would contribute to the school's scholarship and community. DCUM cannot answer this for you.

I am genuinely puzzled by all these brilliant, rich, private schoool kids who don't bother to do their own research and figure out which colleges appeal to them and why.

Kindly, I don't expect that would you understand. Successful private school students that come from highly rigorous schools obviously have ideas about where they'd like to go to schools, but most of them are also working insane hours each day with school, sports, extracurricular, job, internship, etc. commitments. The parents that send their kids to these schools generally are more involved, or place a higher value on academics, therefore they will do their own research, too. A person who's child is lower energy and from a less demanding school would likely not understand these things. DP

NP. This doesn’t make any sense. What’s low energy about a kid actually doing their own research?

It does make me laugh, though, because two recent college tour guides wrapped up their tours by telling the group they chose the school because their mom told them to. Very impressive!

I don't understand the point of anything you just said. Low energy means if you go to school at 9:45 am in your pajama pants then come home and bed rot while looking on your phone for five hours you have more time to do a deep dive into colleges. If you have kids that are gone from the house 12 hours a day going from school, to activity/job, to hours of homework you understand why it's beneficial to have a parent also researching college. Honestly, the more people that are vested in a child's success, including that child, the better. Obviously, there are lots of public school kids that work this hard, too. My guess is that they also have involved parents. As you can see from your college tour guides (usually successful students), kids that have involved parents tend to be more successful and healthy young adults. Like I said, if you're not living that life, you won't understand. Peace.

DP: The difference here isn't energy, it's self-direction. Kids at top privates have less of it -- often because they've been strongly (and well) directed. Self-direction is not encouraged or supported. Your kid is interested in a sport? Parent finds them the best private coaches and the most competitive travel teams from an early age. Has a good mind for math? Parent steers the 6th grader to Russian Math school or the Art of Problem Solving.

Rich kids with connected parents have an entire support system to present them with curated options, which saves them time (how much time do parents spend on this site?) and also emotional energy.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get it. If he's so smart, hasn't he read all the professors' web pages and looked at what courses and clubs and research programs and summer programs, etc, are offered at each college, and figured out which is his first and second choice? He should know what he would write in his essay that would convey what he would contribute to the school's scholarship and community. DCUM cannot answer this for you.

I am genuinely puzzled by all these brilliant, rich, private schoool kids who don't bother to do their own research and figure out which colleges appeal to them and why.

Kindly, I don't expect that would you understand. Successful private school students that come from highly rigorous schools obviously have ideas about where they'd like to go to schools, but most of them are also working insane hours each day with school, sports, extracurricular, job, internship, etc. commitments. The parents that send their kids to these schools generally are more involved, or place a higher value on academics, therefore they will do their own research, too. A person who's child is lower energy and from a less demanding school would likely not understand these things. DP

NP. This doesn’t make any sense. What’s low energy about a kid actually doing their own research?

It does make me laugh, though, because two recent college tour guides wrapped up their tours by telling the group they chose the school because their mom told them to. Very impressive!

I don't understand the point of anything you just said. Low energy means if you go to school at 9:45 am in your pajama pants then come home and bed rot while looking on your phone for five hours you have more time to do a deep dive into colleges. If you have kids that are gone from the house 12 hours a day going from school, to activity/job, to hours of homework you understand why it's beneficial to have a parent also researching college. Honestly, the more people that are vested in a child's success, including that child, the better. Obviously, there are lots of public school kids that work this hard, too. My guess is that they also have involved parents. As you can see from your college tour guides (usually successful students), kids that have involved parents tend to be more successful and healthy young adults. Like I said, if you're not living that life, you won't understand. Peace.

DP: The difference here isn't energy, it's self-direction. Kids at top privates have less of it -- often because they've been strongly (and well) directed. Self-direction is not encouraged or supported. Your kid is interested in a sport? Parent finds them the best private coaches and the most competitive travel teams from an early age. Has a good mind for math? Parent steers the 6th grader to Russian Math school or the Art of Problem Solving.

Rich kids with connected parents have an entire support system to present them with curated options, which saves them time (how much time do parents spend on this site?) and also emotional energy.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get it. If he's so smart, hasn't he read all the professors' web pages and looked at what courses and clubs and research programs and summer programs, etc, are offered at each college, and figured out which is his first and second choice? He should know what he would write in his essay that would convey what he would contribute to the school's scholarship and community. DCUM cannot answer this for you.

I am genuinely puzzled by all these brilliant, rich, private schoool kids who don't bother to do their own research and figure out which colleges appeal to them and why.

Kindly, I don't expect that would you understand. Successful private school students that come from highly rigorous schools obviously have ideas about where they'd like to go to schools, but most of them are also working insane hours each day with school, sports, extracurricular, job, internship, etc. commitments. The parents that send their kids to these schools generally are more involved, or place a higher value on academics, therefore they will do their own research, too. A person who's child is lower energy and from a less demanding school would likely not understand these things. DP

NP. This doesn’t make any sense. What’s low energy about a kid actually doing their own research?

It does make me laugh, though, because two recent college tour guides wrapped up their tours by telling the group they chose the school because their mom told them to. Very impressive!

I don't understand the point of anything you just said. Low energy means if you go to school at 9:45 am in your pajama pants then come home and bed rot while looking on your phone for five hours you have more time to do a deep dive into colleges. If you have kids that are gone from the house 12 hours a day going from school, to activity/job, to hours of homework you understand why it's beneficial to have a parent also researching college. Honestly, the more people that are vested in a child's success, including that child, the better. Obviously, there are lots of public school kids that work this hard, too. My guess is that they also have involved parents. As you can see from your college tour guides (usually successful students), kids that have involved parents tend to be more successful and healthy young adults. Like I said, if you're not living that life, you won't understand. Peace.

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Anonymous wrote:High school is Gonzaga. Does that change the advice?

At our school, the kids who are accepted to Dartmouth ED have GPAs around 93-95. They are not athletes or legacies. They are not in the top 10 percent but in the top 20-30 percent.

Grade inflation in action. 93-95 in top 20-30 percentile. Wow. Must be a public school.

In our school, 3.5 makes that range. 3.3 is the 50 percentile.

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Anonymous wrote:High school is Gonzaga. Does that change the advice?

At our school, the kids who are accepted to Dartmouth ED have GPAs around 93-95. They are not athletes or legacies. They are not in the top 10 percent but in the top 20-30 percent.

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Anonymous wrote:High school is Gonzaga. Does that change the advice?

Let me ask my previous question in a different way: is your son’s GPA in the top 10 percent in Gonzaga? Top 20 percent?

At our school, the kids who are accepted to Dartmouth ED have GPAs around 93-95. They are not athletes or legacies. They are not in the top 10 percent but in the top 20-30 percent.

Anonymous wrote:High school is Gonzaga. Does that change the advice?