Anonymous
03/07/2025 08:08
Subject: Trump is going after Big Law
This is incredibly scary to use the powers of the Presidency to retaliate against lawyers acting legally. I feel like I'm watching the beginning of a movie about America's sudden jolt towards an authoritarian regime and the country is still complacently munching its popcorn.
Anonymous
03/07/2025 08:07
Subject: Trump is going after Big Law
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hard to feel bad for big law.
It’s not about feeling “bad” for big law. It’s the deterioration of our fundamental rules of law. If our president is going after law firms based on who they represent we are not far off from full dictatorship.
They are hardcore Trump voters. Who cares?
This is not true. I don’t know a single associate or law firm partner at my V10 firm who has admitted to voting for Trump. If they are, they are silent because they know better. However, many of us have also been outspokenly anti-Trump since he arrived onto the political scene.
At the same time, I don’t feel bad for law firms either. They are plenty capable of defending themselves and hopefully they do something useful against Trump and his cronies.
Yeah, any conservative leaning law partner I know is a Romney Republican at best and wants nothing to do with this administration.
Many, many of big firms turned down representing Trump during his legal troubles of the past few years. I think largely because he's a terrible client who lies to his lawyers (getting them sanctioned) and doesn't follow basic instructions (e.g., do what the judge orders). Most firms believe everyone is entitled to a defense attorney, but won't sign up if the client is going actively work to damage their reputation.
Even for those who aren't a fan of BigLaw, I think folks would agree that these are qualified attorneys who should be able to continue to represent their clients (especially against the current administration's actions). Any political retribution that disrupts that representation or makes it more expensive for the clients is very, very wrong.
of all the places that have the resources and expertise to fight something like this, I'd think it would be BigLaw.
And yet, nothing
yes, I don't imagine that BigLaw will fight something they feel is "very very wrong."
Anonymous
03/07/2025 08:06
Subject: Trump is going after Big Law
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hard to feel bad for big law.
It’s not about feeling “bad” for big law. It’s the deterioration of our fundamental rules of law. If our president is going after law firms based on who they represent we are not far off from full dictatorship.
They are hardcore Trump voters. Who cares?
You obviously don’t know many in big law.
DP. Do you? Several, not all, voted Trump, even if they suggested otherwise during water cooler conversations.
Anonymous
03/07/2025 07:59
Subject: Trump is going after Big Law
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hard to feel bad for big law.
It’s not about feeling “bad” for big law. It’s the deterioration of our fundamental rules of law. If our president is going after law firms based on who they represent we are not far off from full dictatorship.
They are hardcore Trump voters. Who cares?
This is not true. I don’t know a single associate or law firm partner at my V10 firm who has admitted to voting for Trump. If they are, they are silent because they know better. However, many of us have also been outspokenly anti-Trump since he arrived onto the political scene.
At the same time, I don’t feel bad for law firms either. They are plenty capable of defending themselves and hopefully they do something useful against Trump and his cronies.
Yeah, any conservative leaning law partner I know is a Romney Republican at best and wants nothing to do with this administration.
Many, many of big firms turned down representing Trump during his legal troubles of the past few years. I think largely because he's a terrible client who lies to his lawyers (getting them sanctioned) and doesn't follow basic instructions (e.g., do what the judge orders). Most firms believe everyone is entitled to a defense attorney, but won't sign up if the client is going actively work to damage their reputation.
Even for those who aren't a fan of BigLaw, I think folks would agree that these are qualified attorneys who should be able to continue to represent their clients (especially against the current administration's actions). Any political retribution that disrupts that representation or makes it more expensive for the clients is very, very wrong.
of all the places that have the resources and expertise to fight something like this, I'd think it would be BigLaw.
And yet, nothing
Anonymous
03/07/2025 07:48
Subject: Trump is going after Big Law
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hard to feel bad for big law.
It’s not about feeling “bad” for big law. It’s the deterioration of our fundamental rules of law. If our president is going after law firms based on who they represent we are not far off from full dictatorship.
They are hardcore Trump voters. Who cares?
This is not true. I don’t know a single associate or law firm partner at my V10 firm who has admitted to voting for Trump. If they are, they are silent because they know better. However, many of us have also been outspokenly anti-Trump since he arrived onto the political scene.
At the same time, I don’t feel bad for law firms either. They are plenty capable of defending themselves and hopefully they do something useful against Trump and his cronies.
Yeah, any conservative leaning law partner I know is a Romney Republican at best and wants nothing to do with this administration.
Many, many of big firms turned down representing Trump during his legal troubles of the past few years. I think largely because he's a terrible client who lies to his lawyers (getting them sanctioned) and doesn't follow basic instructions (e.g., do what the judge orders). Most firms believe everyone is entitled to a defense attorney, but won't sign up if the client is going actively work to damage their reputation.
Even for those who aren't a fan of BigLaw, I think folks would agree that these are qualified attorneys who should be able to continue to represent their clients (especially against the current administration's actions). Any political retribution that disrupts that representation or makes it more expensive for the clients is very, very wrong.
of all the places that have the resources and expertise to fight something like this, I'd think it would be BigLaw.
Anonymous
03/07/2025 07:45
Subject: Trump is going after Big Law
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Perkins and Covington as of right now but he has ordered that the federal government suspend security clearances of at least some people working at Perkins and Covington. It also banned federal agencies from hiring Perkin employees unless they receive special permission and declared that the government would not pay for contractors represented by the law firm.
He is using the backdrop of these firms using unlawful DEI hiring practices to target law firms that represent his political adversaries. What country are we living in?!?
The eventual payback is gonna be lit tho
But what would that look like? We have 3.95 years of an incredibly vindictive and petty administration to get through. The entire Republican establishment stands behind Trump. I do not see Big Law offering meaningful resistance or doing anything that hurts billable hours. In fact, I suspect some firms will now be hiring Liberty grads if it helps protect them.
Anonymous
03/07/2025 07:38
Subject: Trump is going after Big Law
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hard to feel bad for big law.
It’s not about feeling “bad” for big law. It’s the deterioration of our fundamental rules of law. If our president is going after law firms based on who they represent we are not far off from full dictatorship.
They are hardcore Trump voters. Who cares?
This is not true. I don’t know a single associate or law firm partner at my V10 firm who has admitted to voting for Trump. If they are, they are silent because they know better. However, many of us have also been outspokenly anti-Trump since he arrived onto the political scene.
At the same time, I don’t feel bad for law firms either. They are plenty capable of defending themselves and hopefully they do something useful against Trump and his cronies.
Preventing Perkins lawyers from accessing government buildings is a big deal. There are likely arguments scheduled for other clients, including pro bono. How does a board full of people who claim to have practiced law not understand all the people who will be harmed in the interim?
Anonymous
03/07/2025 07:33
Subject: Trump is going after Big Law
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hard to feel bad for big law.
It’s not about feeling “bad” for big law. It’s the deterioration of our fundamental rules of law. If our president is going after law firms based on who they represent we are not far off from full dictatorship.
They are hardcore Trump voters. Who cares?
You obviously don’t know many in big law.
Anonymous
03/07/2025 07:29
Subject: Trump is going after Big Law
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hard to feel bad for big law.
It’s not about feeling “bad” for big law. It’s the deterioration of our fundamental rules of law. If our president is going after law firms based on who they represent we are not far off from full dictatorship.
They are hardcore Trump voters. Who cares?
This is not true. I don’t know a single associate or law firm partner at my V10 firm who has admitted to voting for Trump. If they are, they are silent because they know better. However, many of us have also been outspokenly anti-Trump since he arrived onto the political scene.
At the same time, I don’t feel bad for law firms either. They are plenty capable of defending themselves and hopefully they do something useful against Trump and his cronies.
Yeah, any conservative leaning law partner I know is a Romney Republican at best and wants nothing to do with this administration.
Many, many of big firms turned down representing Trump during his legal troubles of the past few years. I think largely because he's a terrible client who lies to his lawyers (getting them sanctioned) and doesn't follow basic instructions (e.g., do what the judge orders). Most firms believe everyone is entitled to a defense attorney, but won't sign up if the client is going actively work to damage their reputation.
Even for those who aren't a fan of BigLaw, I think folks would agree that these are qualified attorneys who should be able to continue to represent their clients (especially against the current administration's actions). Any political retribution that disrupts that representation or makes it more expensive for the clients is very, very wrong.
Anonymous
03/07/2025 07:23
Subject: Trump is going after Big Law
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hard to feel bad for big law.
It’s not about feeling “bad” for big law. It’s the deterioration of our fundamental rules of law. If our president is going after law firms based on who they represent we are not far off from full dictatorship.
They are hardcore Trump voters. Who cares?
This is not true. I don’t know a single associate or law firm partner at my V10 firm who has admitted to voting for Trump. If they are, they are silent because they know better. However, many of us have also been outspokenly anti-Trump since he arrived onto the political scene.
At the same time, I don’t feel bad for law firms either. They are plenty capable of defending themselves and hopefully they do something useful against Trump and his cronies.
This, and this includes Republican lawyers I know who used to raise money for people like Romney and McCain, vigorously defend the conservatives on the court, etc.
They are conservative but not stupid, so they aren't Trump supporters. The more educated you are, the less likely you are to vote for him. The ones I know care a lot about tradition, democratic norms, and foreign policy. They are traditional Republicans who hate Putin. They are horrified.
My Republican Big Law friends feel abandoned by the party thanks to Trump. Many of them changed their party affiliation to Independent when J6 happened, it was the final straw. I know several who donated a lot of money to Nikki Haley's campaign. I know many who voted for Harris through gritted teeth and held noses because voting for Trump was not an option and they knew abstaining altogether was a cop out.
Anonymous
03/07/2025 07:15
Subject: Trump is going after Big Law
Anonymous wrote:Perkins and Covington as of right now but he has ordered that the federal government suspend security clearances of at least some people working at Perkins and Covington. It also banned federal agencies from hiring Perkin employees unless they receive special permission and declared that the government would not pay for contractors represented by the law firm.
He is using the backdrop of these firms using unlawful DEI hiring practices to target law firms that represent his political adversaries. What country are we living in?!?
The eventual payback is gonna be lit tho
Anonymous
03/07/2025 07:15
Subject: Re:Trump is going after Big Law
Anonymous wrote:The First Thing we Do, Let’s Kill All the Lawyers
Have you ever read the full context of this?
Anonymous
03/07/2025 07:08
Subject: Trump is going after Big Law
These big firms are going to light him up in court. I’m kind of excited to watch it.
Anonymous
03/07/2025 05:53
Subject: Trump is going after Big Law
Which side of the line is Williams and Connelly on here? I’m considering a position there.
Anonymous
03/07/2025 05:53
Subject: Trump is going after Big Law
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a lawyer with no love of Big Law at all (never worked in it, never will) but this is scary. It's purely motivated by politics.
He's ordered the EEOC to investigate these firms for violations of the Civil Rights Act.
The executive order he signed today singles out Perkins and specifies it is doing so because of it's involvement with the Steele Dossier.
This is political retribution and nothing else.
I hope they sue him into oblivion. Put all the big brains in these firms that usually spend their time helping big corporations be .05% more profitable and instead do something actually useful here.
The thing is, he's getting rid of all the competent lawyers in the DOJ and replacing them with graduates of Cooley. I don't think the new "DOJ" stands a chance against the former feds, who are now joining these law firms. You're not going to win a gunfight if you're shooting blanks.
Agree. DOJ is going to be hiring lawyers from Liberty, becuase that’s who will want to be at DOJ.