Anonymous wrote:I feel a good Project 2028 needs to refocus our government to center BIPOC and LGTBQIA+ voices and lived-experiences.

This is the big debate. Do we do this, or do we "pivot to the center," "run a boring white guy," "ease up on the progressive politics," etc.?

I personally think we have to OWN our authentic selves in this party, and stop being ashamed of who were are racially, sexually, politically, whatever. I really don't thinking running as Republicans lite is going to cut it.

But doesn't it make sense for people who really WANT NWS to be the ones paying for it.

Republicans never worry about climate change, and they are so poor they don't own houses near the beach so they don't worry about hurricanes. Why should they be taxed so that smarter, richer weather junkies can get their weather reports for free?

Like, if you're a shipping company, you would pay a lot for hurricane data. If you own a beach house, you would pay a moderate amount. If you are a climate change enthusiast, you would pay a little something. And if you are the type of Republican outdoorsman who says "there's no such thing as bad weather, only bad gear," you're probably okay with the free private sector weather reports.

Isn't it a little uncool for us to force other people to fund our interests?

Also, I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of people claim to love NOAA more than they really do. It's a way of saying you're smart, saying you're not a climate denier, saying you oppose government layoffs, etc. But are these people really checking the NOAA data feeds on the reg? I'm not so sure.

Anonymous wrote:People are used to layoffs in the private sector. But layoffs in the federal sector are extremely risky. There haven't been any layoffs in the federal sector for 30 years. We are NOT ready for this. They just asked workers to come back to the office after a 5 year working from home period due to covid. Can we at least give people a chance to get settled at their desks before laying them off? A lot of federal government work is essential. Trump laying off NOAA weather guys is insane. We need to track climate change, and, even more urgently, we need to track natural disaster level weather events. Trump stopping USAID spending? That's our foreign policy he's messing with. And it has immediate effect. Medical clinics are closing and the USAID funding pause only happened a few weeks ago! What is happening? When we're dealing with essential services, we can't be cutting willy nilly with no forethought.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62zvlgqzdpo

I am going to be so so pissed if I have to start paying for NWS. It's ridiculous. All these admin costs are a drop in the bucket. It's not because they're so expensive - they want to privatize/monetize all these services and force us to pay for weather reports, Social Security checks, etc. And THAT money is not going into the government coffers - it's gonna go into Elon's pockets via Xitter.

I actually think watch it implode is the best strategy. We are long overdue for a course correction in this country, and MAGA seems dead set on bringing it on. Hell, Musk was joking with Joe Rogan about how much he can hurt people before getting himself killed.

The truth is that we’ve grown way too comfortable as a people. We’ve fooled ourselves into thinking we are self-reliant and the working man is more important and more powerful than he actually is. We’ve grown too tolerant of the nuts and the conspiracy theorists. We can educate people until we are blue in the face, but at the end of the day only starvation and deprivation and watching your kids die can cut through all the Russia propaganda and noise. They need to feel the pain of the leopards eating their face to stop letting the leopards loose.

I’m not a burn it all down type of person, but the people are demanding to FAFO so at some point we just have to let them get what they voted for. And remind them at every turn that they chose this and there are better options. Eventually they’ll hit rock bottom and want to be comfortable and naive again.

How about just less social justicy, whiny, soft on crimey stuff, but also with low taxes and poor business, but also LGBT and abortion friendly.

You know? Like a middle of the road kinda thing. But also with foreign aid and keeping our soft and hard power. Also, no estate tax and fking “stick it to the rich” bs.

Ya know?

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Anonymous wrote:What Democrats need is their own version of the Heritage Foundation to craft this. Define an entire collection of pieces of legislation for when they regain control of Congress and unleash it with a blitzkrieg legislative and communications effort. Likewise, for when they regain the White House, have all of the key executive orders written up, have all key appointees identified, judicial candidates, everything and everyone vetted and lined up ready to go in an all-out blast.

If the Democratic response to the current extreme MAGA administration is simply the opposite extreme, then I may actually decide not to vote in 2028. I'm done with the extremism of both sides.

Medicaid is extremism?

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/02/opinion/democrats-project-2029.html?unlocked_article_code=1.004.xqXd.3J4Lf15h3DS5&smid=url-share

Gift opinion article which basically says the do nothing sit watch and watch implosion approach is not the right one. Instead, progressive liberal Dems who care about people need to propose ambitious solutions bc there are real problems in our system and government.

Who (person / groups) is positioned to write such a thing? Would they?

IMO watching an implosion might be fun but it doesn’t provide a viable alternative that reacts to the real problems in the US for the midterms and next Presidential cycles.

NP. You’ll first have to convince the country that progressive liberal Dems actually care about people. I don’t believe that any more (moderate Democrat here) and I don’t know anyone who does actually believe that.

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. Why don't progressives "care about people"?

They don’t support policies that actually help most people. They are in favor of funding their rapacious NGOs, and supporting the desires of extreme left white elitists.

I actually don’t see much of a difference between MAGA and progressive leftists as far as how much they care about people (very little).

+100000

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah no.
Frankly a bunch of self satisfied in-the-bubble elite progressives sucking up money at NGO’s enabled all the right wing bullshittery we are currently enduring.
The smug aholes that got us into this, aren’t the ones to get us out.
No thank you.

+1 If a Democratic Project 2028 simply means to totally reverse ALL of Trump's EOs (they aren't all bad...perhaps just badly implemented)..then no, absolutely not in favor.

There needs to be less extremism from both sides...that's what landed us in this mess to begin with. There needs to be a clean slate - stop with the blame game. Just look forward and put forth a new "best in breed" Project 2028 -- meaning take a look at Trump's EOs without bias - the EOs that a majority of the country fundamentally favor (and voted for or even support even though they voted for Harris) and incorporate them into Project 2028 with perhaps a modified plan of execution/implementation.

I voted for Harris and can't stand Trump, but I fundamentally support the idea of many of his EOs even though I may disagree with how they are being implemented.

Which EOs do you support?

LOL

Anonymous wrote:I feel a good Project 2028 needs to refocus our government to center BIPOC and LGTBQIA+ voices and lived-experiences.

Are you trolling

I feel a good Project 2028 needs to refocus our government to center BIPOC and LGTBQIA+ voices and lived-experiences.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah no.
Frankly a bunch of self satisfied in-the-bubble elite progressives sucking up money at NGO’s enabled all the right wing bullshittery we are currently enduring.
The smug aholes that got us into this, aren’t the ones to get us out.
No thank you.

+1 If a Democratic Project 2028 simply means to totally reverse ALL of Trump's EOs (they aren't all bad...perhaps just badly implemented)..then no, absolutely not in favor.

There needs to be less extremism from both sides...that's what landed us in this mess to begin with. There needs to be a clean slate - stop with the blame game. Just look forward and put forth a new "best in breed" Project 2028 -- meaning take a look at Trump's EOs without bias - the EOs that a majority of the country fundamentally favor (and voted for or even support even though they voted for Harris) and incorporate them into Project 2028 with perhaps a modified plan of execution/implementation.

I voted for Harris and can't stand Trump, but I fundamentally support the idea of many of his EOs even though I may disagree with how they are being implemented.

So you aren’t a D.

No one cares what you think about the D platform.

I'm not a progressive liberal Dem. Believe it or not there are...or rather were conservative Democrats.

I do not vote straight R or D -- I vote for the policies that align most with what I believe in...sometimes its a Democrat and other times its a Republican.

I'm a moderate swing voter and if you don't care what I think about the D platform that speaks volumes and that's why you lost in 2024 and will likely lose again in 2028. Remember that.

Ds should not cater to bigots.

DP.
Remember the quote attributed to Napoleon: “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”

I am also a moderate swing voter. If I had been pro-Trump, I would never have vocalized opposition to Biden-Harris border, immigration, and other policies early in the Biden-Harris administration. Because it truly was an own-goal. People like me did not want Trump again, so we tried to warn people…. And we just got labeled as bigots and thrown out.

If you keep calling moderates bigots instead of actually trying to understand, have fun losing again.

People are used to layoffs in the private sector. But layoffs in the federal sector are extremely risky. There haven't been any layoffs in the federal sector for 30 years. We are NOT ready for this. They just asked workers to come back to the office after a 5 year working from home period due to covid. Can we at least give people a chance to get settled at their desks before laying them off? A lot of federal government work is essential. Trump laying off NOAA weather guys is insane. We need to track climate change, and, even more urgently, we need to track natural disaster level weather events. Trump stopping USAID spending? That's our foreign policy he's messing with. And it has immediate effect. Medical clinics are closing and the USAID funding pause only happened a few weeks ago! What is happening? When we're dealing with essential services, we can't be cutting willy nilly with no forethought.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62zvlgqzdpo

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah no.
Frankly a bunch of self satisfied in-the-bubble elite progressives sucking up money at NGO’s enabled all the right wing bullshittery we are currently enduring.
The smug aholes that got us into this, aren’t the ones to get us out.
No thank you.

+1 If a Democratic Project 2028 simply means to totally reverse ALL of Trump's EOs (they aren't all bad...perhaps just badly implemented)..then no, absolutely not in favor.

There needs to be less extremism from both sides...that's what landed us in this mess to begin with. There needs to be a clean slate - stop with the blame game. Just look forward and put forth a new "best in breed" Project 2028 -- meaning take a look at Trump's EOs without bias - the EOs that a majority of the country fundamentally favor (and voted for or even support even though they voted for Harris) and incorporate them into Project 2028 with perhaps a modified plan of execution/implementation.

I voted for Harris and can't stand Trump, but I fundamentally support the idea of many of his EOs even though I may disagree with how they are being implemented.

So you aren’t a D.

No one cares what you think about the D platform.

Voting Democrat is not enough. You have to oppose everything Trump does, no matter how necessary or how good for the country.

Tell us what has dumpy done that is good for the country? Besides getting men out of women's sports? He is supporting the thugs of the world and making Putin very happy. He is attacking our allies!

He is firing people and he doesn't even know that it might be dangerous...!

I think every fed should 'strike' and bring the country to a standstill. But call it a 'day of prayer'

Anonymous wrote:The next inauguration year is 2029, hope that helps

Sure, jan