Anonymous
Post 02/13/2025 20:18     Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
Anonymous wrote:It was 60 people. It awful but not the end of the world.


It’s in the hundreds after adding up all the agencies that did this over the last 72 hours. Perhaps more.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2025 20:18     Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
Anonymous wrote:It was 60 people. It awful but not the end of the world.


200k is being reported. The largest layoffs in history.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2025 20:14     Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
It was 60 people. It awful but not the end of the world.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2025 20:13     Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. My kid is a probationary employee of 1.5 years but has not heard anything yet. Is at a non-exempt agency. Is this happening tomorrow too?


Competitive service has one year probationary periods and executive service has two. Are you sure he’s still on probation?
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2025 20:11     Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
Anonymous wrote:DOE let go of most of their probationary staff today. It’s been a gut wrenching sort of day to tell smart STEM professionals who you recruited away from industry and who moved their families that they were being let go.


That is awful and nauseating. I’m so sorry for them.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2025 20:10     Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. My kid is a probationary employee of 1.5 years but has not heard anything yet. Is at a non-exempt agency. Is this happening tomorrow too?


Depends on agency.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2025 20:08     Subject: Re:Probationaries getting fired today
Was it every single probationary employee at DoE?
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2025 20:08     Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
I’m confused. My kid is a probationary employee of 1.5 years but has not heard anything yet. Is at a non-exempt agency. Is this happening tomorrow too?
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2025 20:01     Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
What if someone wasn't at their computer to receive the news? I'm imagining flex schedule or on leave. What a nite mare to find out the next day when you can't get in the building in the morning.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2025 19:58     Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
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Anonymous wrote:Don't do that. Don't use probationary as a noun. So dehumanizing.


They're no longer probationary. They're now unemployed. Get it right.

What’s your problem?
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2025 19:56     Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
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Anonymous wrote:Do probationaries get any kind of severance?


Not if they were fired. Severance is for RIF.


Pretty sure they do. It's an involuntary separation


Yes, but it's a firing and not a RIF, so no severence.


They’re layoffs. Only someone that hasn’t experienced a layoff wouldn’t know the difference.


There is a difference in the government. A layoff comes with severence. A firing doesn't. These were firings.

Was it fair? Absolutely not. Was it legal? Absolutely not. But they fired them to avoid having to follow the regs.


This is a layoff. They qualify for unemployment. People fired for cause do not qualify for unemployment.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2025 19:53     Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
Anonymous wrote:Don't do that. Don't use probationary as a noun. So dehumanizing.


They're no longer probationary. They're now unemployed. Get it right.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2025 19:53     Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
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Anonymous wrote:Do probationaries get any kind of severance?


Not if they were fired. Severance is for RIF.


Pretty sure they do. It's an involuntary separation


Yes, but it's a firing and not a RIF, so no severence.


They’re layoffs. Only someone that hasn’t experienced a layoff wouldn’t know the difference.


There is a difference in the government. A layoff comes with severence. A firing doesn't. These were firings.

Was it fair? Absolutely not. Was it legal? Absolutely not. But they fired them to avoid having to follow the regs.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2025 19:51     Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
Anonymous wrote:Don't do that. Don't use probationary as a noun. So dehumanizing.


You’re right. Sorry. I am not in probationary status, but really worried about my colleagues that are.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2025 19:50     Subject: Probationaries getting fired today
Don't do that. Don't use probationary as a noun. So dehumanizing.