Anonymous
Post 02/10/2025 21:29     Subject: US news states that UMD is #16 in computer science, is that true?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I used to manage a pretty good size engineering team at a FAANG. Bottom line is that we don't care where you came from as long as you can code. All of the schools being mentioned are fine, they are all very good but we really aren't paying attention to one over another except for higher level degrees and specific disciplines.

For general purpose entry level SWEs we do not care where you went. I had MIT, CalTech, SJSU, NCSU, Waterloo, SLO, Alberta, UToronto, and UCF on my team (more but that is off the top of my head) and they were all good. I don't remember a single Ivy anywhere near me but I know others who had CMU, Stony Brook, Binghamton.
Undergraduate CS isn't that complex, it is more of a smart student learning to grind and deeply understand the basics. Kids can do great from all of the top 100 schools as long as they learn the material deeply and understand how to apply it.

I can't comment on kids looking for Quant or finance types of coding but for your typical FAANG SWE job don't overthink it.


DC is CS major at Stanford. Had Google recruiters reach out to them for internship and FT positions. School does matter and is a factor at the resume screening stage.


Having been one of the people in the room for this kind of stuff it matters much less than people on here believe. Someone from NCSU and someone from GT would get the same relative look. Check coursework, grades, and projects. If they passed the screening bar it was off to the races to see if they knew what we thought that they might.

Stanford is a bit different because it is local. Top students from SJSU, Santa Clara, and UCB will get the same basic treatment as Stanford despite what some might believe or want to believe. Don't get me wrong, taking the right class at Stanford might make it easier to get noticed but school name means less that what people here want to think. If I was forced to name a school outside of the bay area that got more attention than others most people on DCUM aren't going to like the answer......because the answer is Waterloo. Waterloo kids always do very well because of their internships and the mindset around them.


So what's the internal scoop on: Pomona and the Claremont Colleges - I hear no one really knows them. Or the others on DCUM top list: Williams, Swarthmore, etc.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2025 19:40     Subject: US news states that UMD is #16 in computer science, is that true?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I used to manage a pretty good size engineering team at a FAANG. Bottom line is that we don't care where you came from as long as you can code. All of the schools being mentioned are fine, they are all very good but we really aren't paying attention to one over another except for higher level degrees and specific disciplines.

For general purpose entry level SWEs we do not care where you went. I had MIT, CalTech, SJSU, NCSU, Waterloo, SLO, Alberta, UToronto, and UCF on my team (more but that is off the top of my head) and they were all good. I don't remember a single Ivy anywhere near me but I know others who had CMU, Stony Brook, Binghamton.
Undergraduate CS isn't that complex, it is more of a smart student learning to grind and deeply understand the basics. Kids can do great from all of the top 100 schools as long as they learn the material deeply and understand how to apply it.

I can't comment on kids looking for Quant or finance types of coding but for your typical FAANG SWE job don't overthink it.


So do you think UIUC, CMU, Michigan etc just overkill? Doest this also apply to computer software generally (apps, interface design etc). Genuinely asking...because maybe it's best to save money for higher level degree. What about UT Dallas, one of the places that draws National Merit finalists with large tuition breaks? Thanks


I would say that it depends on the kid. You don't have to pay OOS for those schools as long as you have a T100 in state choice. If you are trying to work at most places in the bay the SUNY schools (Bing, Buffalo, Stony Brook) at $43K are much better values than UMich, UVA, or UNC. They might not be UIUC but you don't need UIUC. They are all great schools for CS and you will get great results if you work hard. Getting NCSU rather than UIUC won't hurt you if you really work hard because similar stuff is taught at all solid CS schools. Maybe for a few roles it matters but not getting a T20 isn't going to have a negative effect on things as long as you really dig in at a solid school. For grad school I would say be more selective because focus will matter more.


Thank you
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2025 19:20     Subject: US news states that UMD is #16 in computer science, is that true?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I used to manage a pretty good size engineering team at a FAANG. Bottom line is that we don't care where you came from as long as you can code. All of the schools being mentioned are fine, they are all very good but we really aren't paying attention to one over another except for higher level degrees and specific disciplines.

For general purpose entry level SWEs we do not care where you went. I had MIT, CalTech, SJSU, NCSU, Waterloo, SLO, Alberta, UToronto, and UCF on my team (more but that is off the top of my head) and they were all good. I don't remember a single Ivy anywhere near me but I know others who had CMU, Stony Brook, Binghamton.
Undergraduate CS isn't that complex, it is more of a smart student learning to grind and deeply understand the basics. Kids can do great from all of the top 100 schools as long as they learn the material deeply and understand how to apply it.

I can't comment on kids looking for Quant or finance types of coding but for your typical FAANG SWE job don't overthink it.


DC is CS major at Stanford. Had Google recruiters reach out to them for internship and FT positions. School does matter and is a factor at the resume screening stage.


SJSU is an 'under the RADAR' for CS except in the valley. It's a hard but not impossible admit for CS and you leave well trained.

We also reach out equally to San Jose State U, UCB, and Santa Clara U. - in other words to ALL the local colleges with CS. SJSU is probably the lowest cost local way to get to Google.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2025 19:18     Subject: US news states that UMD is #16 in computer science, is that true?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I used to manage a pretty good size engineering team at a FAANG. Bottom line is that we don't care where you came from as long as you can code. All of the schools being mentioned are fine, they are all very good but we really aren't paying attention to one over another except for higher level degrees and specific disciplines.

For general purpose entry level SWEs we do not care where you went. I had MIT, CalTech, SJSU, NCSU, Waterloo, SLO, Alberta, UToronto, and UCF on my team (more but that is off the top of my head) and they were all good. I don't remember a single Ivy anywhere near me but I know others who had CMU, Stony Brook, Binghamton.
Undergraduate CS isn't that complex, it is more of a smart student learning to grind and deeply understand the basics. Kids can do great from all of the top 100 schools as long as they learn the material deeply and understand how to apply it.

I can't comment on kids looking for Quant or finance types of coding but for your typical FAANG SWE job don't overthink it.


So do you think UIUC, CMU, Michigan etc just overkill? Doest this also apply to computer software generally (apps, interface design etc). Genuinely asking...because maybe it's best to save money for higher level degree. What about UT Dallas, one of the places that draws National Merit finalists with large tuition breaks? Thanks


I would say that it depends on the kid. You don't have to pay OOS for those schools as long as you have a T100 in state choice. If you are trying to work at most places in the bay the SUNY schools (Bing, Buffalo, Stony Brook) at $43K are much better values than UMich, UVA, or UNC. They might not be UIUC but you don't need UIUC. They are all great schools for CS and you will get great results if you work hard. Getting NCSU rather than UIUC won't hurt you if you really work hard because similar stuff is taught at all solid CS schools. Maybe for a few roles it matters but not getting a T20 isn't going to have a negative effect on things as long as you really dig in at a solid school. For grad school I would say be more selective because focus will matter more.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2025 18:38     Subject: US news states that UMD is #16 in computer science, is that true?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I used to manage a pretty good size engineering team at a FAANG. Bottom line is that we don't care where you came from as long as you can code. All of the schools being mentioned are fine, they are all very good but we really aren't paying attention to one over another except for higher level degrees and specific disciplines.

For general purpose entry level SWEs we do not care where you went. I had MIT, CalTech, SJSU, NCSU, Waterloo, SLO, Alberta, UToronto, and UCF on my team (more but that is off the top of my head) and they were all good. I don't remember a single Ivy anywhere near me but I know others who had CMU, Stony Brook, Binghamton.
Undergraduate CS isn't that complex, it is more of a smart student learning to grind and deeply understand the basics. Kids can do great from all of the top 100 schools as long as they learn the material deeply and understand how to apply it.

I can't comment on kids looking for Quant or finance types of coding but for your typical FAANG SWE job don't overthink it.


DC is CS major at Stanford. Had Google recruiters reach out to them for internship and FT positions. School does matter and is a factor at the resume screening stage.


DP. Both can be true. A typical recruiter is someone non-technical in HR trying to add value by gathering resumes that might be of interest to a hiring manager. For a starting position, not knowing any better they are more likely to be swayed by school name. The actual hiring manager is going to care less about the school and more about performance on in-house tests and responses to interview questions. My team hired over 1000 developers and school was never a deciding factor at the testing/interview stage but was a factor on where the HR team spent their time, but the resumes gathered by HR through their on-site recruiting was at most 5% of the total submitted.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2025 17:54     Subject: US news states that UMD is #16 in computer science, is that true?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I used to manage a pretty good size engineering team at a FAANG. Bottom line is that we don't care where you came from as long as you can code. All of the schools being mentioned are fine, they are all very good but we really aren't paying attention to one over another except for higher level degrees and specific disciplines.

For general purpose entry level SWEs we do not care where you went. I had MIT, CalTech, SJSU, NCSU, Waterloo, SLO, Alberta, UToronto, and UCF on my team (more but that is off the top of my head) and they were all good. I don't remember a single Ivy anywhere near me but I know others who had CMU, Stony Brook, Binghamton.
Undergraduate CS isn't that complex, it is more of a smart student learning to grind and deeply understand the basics. Kids can do great from all of the top 100 schools as long as they learn the material deeply and understand how to apply it.

I can't comment on kids looking for Quant or finance types of coding but for your typical FAANG SWE job don't overthink it.


DC is CS major at Stanford. Had Google recruiters reach out to them for internship and FT positions. School does matter and is a factor at the resume screening stage.


We also reach out equally to San Jose State U, UCB, and Santa Clara U. - in other words to ALL the local colleges with CS. SJSU is probably the lowest cost local way to get to Google.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2025 17:31     Subject: US news states that UMD is #16 in computer science, is that true?

Anonymous wrote:I used to manage a pretty good size engineering team at a FAANG. Bottom line is that we don't care where you came from as long as you can code. All of the schools being mentioned are fine, they are all very good but we really aren't paying attention to one over another except for higher level degrees and specific disciplines.

For general purpose entry level SWEs we do not care where you went. I had MIT, CalTech, SJSU, NCSU, Waterloo, SLO, Alberta, UToronto, and UCF on my team (more but that is off the top of my head) and they were all good. I don't remember a single Ivy anywhere near me but I know others who had CMU, Stony Brook, Binghamton.
Undergraduate CS isn't that complex, it is more of a smart student learning to grind and deeply understand the basics. Kids can do great from all of the top 100 schools as long as they learn the material deeply and understand how to apply it.

I can't comment on kids looking for Quant or finance types of coding but for your typical FAANG SWE job don't overthink it.


So do you think UIUC, CMU, Michigan etc just overkill? Doest this also apply to computer software generally (apps, interface design etc). Genuinely asking...because maybe it's best to save money for higher level degree. What about UT Dallas, one of the places that draws National Merit finalists with large tuition breaks? Thanks
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2025 17:03     Subject: US news states that UMD is #16 in computer science, is that true?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I used to manage a pretty good size engineering team at a FAANG. Bottom line is that we don't care where you came from as long as you can code. All of the schools being mentioned are fine, they are all very good but we really aren't paying attention to one over another except for higher level degrees and specific disciplines.

For general purpose entry level SWEs we do not care where you went. I had MIT, CalTech, SJSU, NCSU, Waterloo, SLO, Alberta, UToronto, and UCF on my team (more but that is off the top of my head) and they were all good. I don't remember a single Ivy anywhere near me but I know others who had CMU, Stony Brook, Binghamton.
Undergraduate CS isn't that complex, it is more of a smart student learning to grind and deeply understand the basics. Kids can do great from all of the top 100 schools as long as they learn the material deeply and understand how to apply it.

I can't comment on kids looking for Quant or finance types of coding but for your typical FAANG SWE job don't overthink it.


DC is CS major at Stanford. Had Google recruiters reach out to them for internship and FT positions. School does matter and is a factor at the resume screening stage.


Having been one of the people in the room for this kind of stuff it matters much less than people on here believe. Someone from NCSU and someone from GT would get the same relative look. Check coursework, grades, and projects. If they passed the screening bar it was off to the races to see if they knew what we thought that they might.

Stanford is a bit different because it is local. Top students from SJSU, Santa Clara, and UCB will get the same basic treatment as Stanford despite what some might believe or want to believe. Don't get me wrong, taking the right class at Stanford might make it easier to get noticed but school name means less that what people here want to think. If I was forced to name a school outside of the bay area that got more attention than others most people on DCUM aren't going to like the answer......because the answer is Waterloo. Waterloo kids always do very well because of their internships and the mindset around them.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2025 16:22     Subject: US news states that UMD is #16 in computer science, is that true?

Anonymous wrote:I used to manage a pretty good size engineering team at a FAANG. Bottom line is that we don't care where you came from as long as you can code. All of the schools being mentioned are fine, they are all very good but we really aren't paying attention to one over another except for higher level degrees and specific disciplines.

For general purpose entry level SWEs we do not care where you went. I had MIT, CalTech, SJSU, NCSU, Waterloo, SLO, Alberta, UToronto, and UCF on my team (more but that is off the top of my head) and they were all good. I don't remember a single Ivy anywhere near me but I know others who had CMU, Stony Brook, Binghamton.
Undergraduate CS isn't that complex, it is more of a smart student learning to grind and deeply understand the basics. Kids can do great from all of the top 100 schools as long as they learn the material deeply and understand how to apply it.

I can't comment on kids looking for Quant or finance types of coding but for your typical FAANG SWE job don't overthink it.


DC is CS major at Stanford. Had Google recruiters reach out to them for internship and FT positions. School does matter and is a factor at the resume screening stage.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2025 16:15     Subject: US news states that UMD is #16 in computer science, is that true?

I used to manage a pretty good size engineering team at a FAANG. Bottom line is that we don't care where you came from as long as you can code. All of the schools being mentioned are fine, they are all very good but we really aren't paying attention to one over another except for higher level degrees and specific disciplines.

For general purpose entry level SWEs we do not care where you went. I had MIT, CalTech, SJSU, NCSU, Waterloo, SLO, Alberta, UToronto, and UCF on my team (more but that is off the top of my head) and they were all good. I don't remember a single Ivy anywhere near me but I know others who had CMU, Stony Brook, Binghamton.
Undergraduate CS isn't that complex, it is more of a smart student learning to grind and deeply understand the basics. Kids can do great from all of the top 100 schools as long as they learn the material deeply and understand how to apply it.

I can't comment on kids looking for Quant or finance types of coding but for your typical FAANG SWE job don't overthink it.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2025 15:52     Subject: US news states that UMD is #16 in computer science, is that true?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stanford is the way to go. Top CS program in a balanced liberal arts curriculum. Best of both worlds. Only problem is getting in…..


lol on Standford is the way to go.


? What’s wrong with Stanford? #1 in undergrad CS and top liberal arts college


They didn't mention Stanford. They mentioned "Standford".
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2025 11:08     Subject: US news states that UMD is #16 in computer science, is that true?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stanford is the way to go. Top CS program in a balanced liberal arts curriculum. Best of both worlds. Only problem is getting in…..


lol on Standford is the way to go.


? What’s wrong with Stanford? #1 in undergrad CS and top liberal arts college
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2025 11:04     Subject: US news states that UMD is #16 in computer science, is that true?

good news for UMD OOS students
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2025 10:53     Subject: US news states that UMD is #16 in computer science, is that true?

Anonymous wrote:Stanford is the way to go. Top CS program in a balanced liberal arts curriculum. Best of both worlds. Only problem is getting in…..


lol on Standford is the way to go.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2025 10:46     Subject: US news states that UMD is #16 in computer science, is that true?

Students who want to graduate at HYPSM are looking at a different set of jobs than students who want to graduate from CS programs at UIUC/Ga Tech/CMU/UMD.

If a student is very clear that they are going to want to do programming/CS kind of work you cannot beat UIUC/Ga Tech/CMU/UMD for cost and admission chances.