Anonymous
Post 02/08/2025 08:07     Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
I don't really understand why this topic should not also be discussed on the political discussion threads. It was obviously a political decision to damage universities.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2025 08:00     Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:So it begins.

NIH lowers allowable indirect costs from 60% to 15%.

Seismic.

Indirect costs pay for the building maintenance, admin salaries, utilities, etc.

Johns Hopkins going to get slaughtered.


I just said it in another thread, but this will result in more direct billing. You'll have grant applications with budget lines for electricity, grant specialist support, admin support, etc.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2025 07:51     Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So can someone please explain the IMPACT this will have on T-100 colleges and universities in the short-term (2025-2030)?

Assuming a sharp and massive decrease in federal funding per Musk/Project 2025:

- What will change on the ground at these schools in the next year, in the next five years? How exactly will it affect applicants and undergraduate students?

- Which schools (or types of schools) are likely to be the relative “winners,” and who are likely to be the relative “losers”?

(Assume I have no personal experience with either federally-funded research or college/university budgets. Because I don’t. 😂 But I do have kids applying to college in 2026 and 2029 and am having trouble getting my head around the short-term implications for them.

Thanks!


There are some colleges that have private research endowments for professors, this is how they attract talent. Some department chairs at universities are partially funded privately interns if salary.
Wait and see, but some univs won’t survive and may change drastically. Penn state, for example.


Sorry Penn State but the voters of Pennsylvania do not love you.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2025 07:49     Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:So can someone please explain the IMPACT this will have on T-100 colleges and universities in the short-term (2025-2030)?

Assuming a sharp and massive decrease in federal funding per Musk/Project 2025:

- What will change on the ground at these schools in the next year, in the next five years? How exactly will it affect applicants and undergraduate students?

- Which schools (or types of schools) are likely to be the relative “winners,” and who are likely to be the relative “losers”?

(Assume I have no personal experience with either federally-funded research or college/university budgets. Because I don’t. 😂 But I do have kids applying to college in 2026 and 2029 and am having trouble getting my head around the short-term implications for them.

Thanks!


There are some colleges that have private research endowments for professors, this is how they attract talent. Some department chairs at universities are partially funded privately interns if salary.
Wait and see, but some univs won’t survive and may change drastically. Penn state, for example.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2025 06:18     Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not sure why you think STEM research will be spared. The issue isn’t social sciences research—it’s research, period. The list of “forbidden words” includes things like “female” and “inclusion,” words that are used in many contexts and types of research.

A lot of you are not seeing the forest for the trees, here. This is about destroying state capacity, and it’s about eliminating any threats to or competition for Elon Musk’s empire. They are using a sledgehammer, not a scalpel.


You sound paranoid. Harvard, MIT, Stanford, etc have huge endowments they can dip into without burdening the taxpayers, many who never attended university.


Science and science research is not valued by Trump's voters. In fact higher education is not valued by Trump voters. They want to give the tax payer money to billionaires, not to education or research.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2025 06:04     Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:Not sure why you think STEM research will be spared. The issue isn’t social sciences research—it’s research, period. The list of “forbidden words” includes things like “female” and “inclusion,” words that are used in many contexts and types of research.

A lot of you are not seeing the forest for the trees, here. This is about destroying state capacity, and it’s about eliminating any threats to or competition for Elon Musk’s empire. They are using a sledgehammer, not a scalpel.


You sound paranoid. Harvard, MIT, Stanford, etc have huge endowments they can dip into without burdening the taxpayers, many who never attended university.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2025 04:09     Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To state it simply, all universities and research institutions will be negatively impacted by this anti-science approach.

Nobody benefits from a world view that values dogma over discovery.


I absolutely agree, of course. This is 100% destructive and terrible.

Maybe because we feels so powerless at the moment, we’re trying to figure out if there’s anything we can or should “do” to reframe our DC’s college research process re 2026.

At the moment, DC is looking at a mix of public flagships and mid-sized privates. Should we be looking at the schools’ financials - endowments, dependence on federal funding etc - to try to identify those that may weather the storm better than others? Or is that like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic?


Absolutely. Forbes has a list of the financial ratings of each college. Cross reference that with NSF, NIH, and other departments. For example, NIH is here:

https://report.nih.gov/funding/categorical-spending#/

Each school will list their total federal funding through research, through all modalities. Some competitive grants, others non-competitive.

This is an earthquake followed by a Tsunami.


If we want to have a shot at a return to normalcy, we need the Senate and House out of Trump's control as soon as possible. The 2026 mid-terms will be critical to have Dems win. But Trump, Musk, Vance and Bannon will do so much damage to our children's education before then. Look how active they've been in just days/weeks.

Also, it doesn't matter if you are a lifelong GOP or Dem, if you voted for Trump or not, everyone must organize fast and work together now against Trump's crew to save this country for our kids. Otherwise, we are launching our kids into a permanent dystopia.


+1 million

1) Call all your reps in Congress now (and every day) registering your disapproval for these policies. especially critical for Republican reps
2) Register your teen to get ready to vote when they turn 18, in advance of 2026 election. And VOTE! There isn't a big gap in Senate or House.
3) Donate NOW to Dem candidates across the country for Sen, House, Gov races as much as you can comfortably afford.
4) If you have a lot of money, donate to your kids' colleges and note you want it to support faculty research.


This should have happened on Nov. 5th, but America didn't want a black woman for president.

Felon Trump is king now.

This is the result.

Anonymous
Post 02/08/2025 03:17     Subject: Re:Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
DEI funding is the reason my white, straight male son gets a livable stipend from his PhD program in physics. DEI funding is why his lab can run a very successful summer research internship for undergrads, who are mostly white students from predominately undergrad institutions, to get opportunities that arent available at their home institutions. DEI funding isn’t a boogeyman that harms us, it’s keeping much of the science academia industry afloat, and I fear the future of the field will only be for those who can afford a meager stipend for 5-6 years.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2025 00:22     Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:A lot of US research funding has been absolute garbage. The STEM research too.

I look at recent research papers at my kids R1 school and 80% of social science papers are DEI garbage. We don’t need more of this junk.

Shut the fuċk up
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2025 00:20     Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
All R1 and R2 universities will be affected by the change in indirect funding rates. It will be ugly.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2025 23:34     Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:A lot of US research funding has been absolute garbage. The STEM research too.

I look at recent research papers at my kids R1 school and 80% of social science papers are DEI garbage. We don’t need more of this junk.


Agree with this, unfortunately. So much of the psychology, sociology, and education-related "research" over the last 10-15 years have been incredibly lame. And yes the DEI hoops that STEM proposals have had to include. Garbage.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2025 23:30     Subject: Re:Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
My prediction is they will not grant funding to institutions that have policies they don’t like.

Such as:

🏳️‍🌈 and so on

Anonymous
Post 02/07/2025 23:28     Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:UChicago is so so so screwed.


OH LOL. I know a few Trumpers whose kids ED'd there.
Morons.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2025 23:25     Subject: Re:Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
Anonymous wrote:In the past it’s the public R1s that have taken the biggest hits when federal priorities change, followed by private R1s.


Examples? When did priorities change and which universities got hurt?
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2025 23:13     Subject: Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?
A lot of US research funding has been absolute garbage. The STEM research too.

I look at recent research papers at my kids R1 school and 80% of social science papers are DEI garbage. We don’t need more of this junk.