[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don’t think it’s always a simple matter of kids in the same private school being compared to each other. Kids with similar academic/extracurricular profiles are also compared against one another. You don’t know if your star lacrosse player/pianist private school kid is being compared to a similar star lacrosse player/pianist from a similar private school in another state. [/quote]
Sigh. Yes, athletic recruits are a different animal. But picture an elite school’s bucket: already 2 athletic recruit admits from that high school, plus 1 double legacy and donor type. That’s 3 admits. Now it’s time for 1 and at most 2 high academic flyer unhooked kids. (No way will there be more than 5 admits from that high school.)

So for the 1-2 remaining unhooked slots we have the jerky kid (with the parents we have already seen on this board) with an SCEA acceptance already in hand who vies for that same spot. Maybe that jerky kid gets in. Maybe that jerky kid elbowed out another kid at that same high school from being accepted. These are not de minimis chances. While not necessarily likely, they are pretty substantial.

The point is that your lacrosse and pianist argument means it is even more egregious when an unhooked kid with an acceptance already in hand is elbowing out other unhooked kids for the 1-2 slots available at other elite schools.

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Why is a kid “jerky” if they are not breaking any contracts and wish to keep 1-2 serious options open as they have every right to do? If you knew my DC in person, you would know just how un-jerky they are, which appears to be a large reason why they were admitted early to HYPSM in the first place (their AO specifically noted the positive impact they’ve had on their community). The colleges will determine whom they would like to admit - it’s not the kid’s responsibility to bow out in favor of those less competitive (in the adcom’s eyes). Your perspective, which I recognize is shared by a number of posters but certainly not all on this thread, feels very Harrison Bergeron.[/quote]

If your kid was so “positive” they would be thinking of their classmates and friends before they rack up acceptances to 4 Ivies. Look, either you get it or you don’t. Strivers gonna strive.[/quote]

Sorry but not applying to a school will not result a friend getting admitted. It's likely giving it to some random stranger.

If a student has it all figured out by the time the early admittance deadlines come around then that is great. It is also allowed to not be in that position.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don’t think it’s always a simple matter of kids in the same private school being compared to each other. Kids with similar academic/extracurricular profiles are also compared against one another. You don’t know if your star lacrosse player/pianist private school kid is being compared to a similar star lacrosse player/pianist from a similar private school in another state. [/quote]
Sigh. Yes, athletic recruits are a different animal. But picture an elite school’s bucket: already 2 athletic recruit admits from that high school, plus 1 double legacy and donor type. That’s 3 admits. Now it’s time for 1 and at most 2 high academic flyer unhooked kids. (No way will there be more than 5 admits from that high school.)

So for the 1-2 remaining unhooked slots we have the jerky kid (with the parents we have already seen on this board) with an SCEA acceptance already in hand who vies for that same spot. Maybe that jerky kid gets in. Maybe that jerky kid elbowed out another kid at that same high school from being accepted. These are not de minimis chances. While not necessarily likely, they are pretty substantial.

The point is that your lacrosse and pianist argument means it is even more egregious when an unhooked kid with an acceptance already in hand is elbowing out other unhooked kids for the 1-2 slots available at other elite schools.

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Why is a kid “jerky” if they are not breaking any contracts and wish to keep 1-2 serious options open as they have every right to do? If you knew my DC in person, you would know just how un-jerky they are, which appears to be a large reason why they were admitted early to HYPSM in the first place (their AO specifically noted the positive impact they’ve had on their community). The colleges will determine whom they would like to admit - it’s not the kid’s responsibility to bow out in favor of those less competitive (in the adcom’s eyes). Your perspective, which I recognize is shared by a number of posters but certainly not all on this thread, feels very Harrison Bergeron.[/quote]

If your kid was so “positive” they would be thinking of their classmates and friends before they rack up acceptances to 4 Ivies. Look, either you get it or you don’t. Strivers gonna strive.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don’t think it’s always a simple matter of kids in the same private school being compared to each other. Kids with similar academic/extracurricular profiles are also compared against one another. You don’t know if your star lacrosse player/pianist private school kid is being compared to a similar star lacrosse player/pianist from a similar private school in another state. [/quote]
Sigh. Yes, athletic recruits are a different animal. But picture an elite school’s bucket: already 2 athletic recruit admits from that high school, plus 1 double legacy and donor type. That’s 3 admits. Now it’s time for 1 and at most 2 high academic flyer unhooked kids. (No way will there be more than 5 admits from that high school.)

So for the 1-2 remaining unhooked slots we have the jerky kid (with the parents we have already seen on this board) with an SCEA acceptance already in hand who vies for that same spot. Maybe that jerky kid gets in. Maybe that jerky kid elbowed out another kid at that same high school from being accepted. These are not de minimis chances. While not necessarily likely, they are pretty substantial.

The point is that your lacrosse and pianist argument means it is even more egregious when an unhooked kid with an acceptance already in hand is elbowing out other unhooked kids for the 1-2 slots available at other elite schools.

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Why is a kid “jerky” if they are not breaking any contracts and wish to keep 1-2 serious options open as they have every right to do? If you knew my DC in person, you would know just how un-jerky they are, which appears to be a large reason why they were admitted early to HYPSM in the first place (their AO specifically noted the positive impact they’ve had on their community). The colleges will determine whom they would like to admit - it’s not the kid’s responsibility to bow out in favor of those less competitive (in the adcom’s eyes). Your perspective, which I recognize is shared by a number of posters but certainly not all on this thread, feels very Harrison Bergeron.[/quote]
The apple does not fall far from the tree. [/quote]

Lol, does that apply for both high achieving families and low achieving families?

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don’t think it’s always a simple matter of kids in the same private school being compared to each other. Kids with similar academic/extracurricular profiles are also compared against one another. You don’t know if your star lacrosse player/pianist private school kid is being compared to a similar star lacrosse player/pianist from a similar private school in another state. [/quote]
Sigh. Yes, athletic recruits are a different animal. But picture an elite school’s bucket: already 2 athletic recruit admits from that high school, plus 1 double legacy and donor type. That’s 3 admits. Now it’s time for 1 and at most 2 high academic flyer unhooked kids. (No way will there be more than 5 admits from that high school.)

So for the 1-2 remaining unhooked slots we have the jerky kid (with the parents we have already seen on this board) with an SCEA acceptance already in hand who vies for that same spot. Maybe that jerky kid gets in. Maybe that jerky kid elbowed out another kid at that same high school from being accepted. These are not de minimis chances. While not necessarily likely, they are pretty substantial.

The point is that your lacrosse and pianist argument means it is even more egregious when an unhooked kid with an acceptance already in hand is elbowing out other unhooked kids for the 1-2 slots available at other elite schools.

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Why is a kid “jerky” if they are not breaking any contracts and wish to keep 1-2 serious options open as they have every right to do? If you knew my DC in person, you would know just how un-jerky they are, which appears to be a large reason why they were admitted early to HYPSM in the first place (their AO specifically noted the positive impact they’ve had on their community). The colleges will determine whom they would like to admit - it’s not the kid’s responsibility to bow out in favor of those less competitive (in the adcom’s eyes). Your perspective, which I recognize is shared by a number of posters but certainly not all on this thread, feels very Harrison Bergeron.[/quote]
The apple does not fall far from the tree.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Usually when admitted to one of the T5, kids apply to the rest of HYPSM.

Weirdly one kid at our school also applied to Michigan. Don't know why - think kid wants to go to Michigan and parents want HYPSM.

Getting into one of HYPSM SCEA and then applying to the rest for sh#ts and giggles is the definition of a d#ck move. The better private schools discourage trophy hunting since it harms everyone else in the class. Not sure what private school this is, but I'd suggest keeping this move under wraps. The other families will despise you.

But what if it's not trophy hunting?

Who is applying early to both MIT and Yale except the trophy hunters?

You can’t apply early to Yale and MIT. You can apply early to one and RD to the other?

My kids top choices are Princeton and MIT. He will apply early to Princeton, because early to MIT has no advantage, and then RD to MIT.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don’t think it’s always a simple matter of kids in the same private school being compared to each other. Kids with similar academic/extracurricular profiles are also compared against one another. You don’t know if your star lacrosse player/pianist private school kid is being compared to a similar star lacrosse player/pianist from a similar private school in another state. [/quote]
Sigh. Yes, athletic recruits are a different animal. But picture an elite school’s bucket: already 2 athletic recruit admits from that high school, plus 1 double legacy and donor type. That’s 3 admits. Now it’s time for 1 and at most 2 high academic flyer unhooked kids. (No way will there be more than 5 admits from that high school.)

So for the 1-2 remaining unhooked slots we have the jerky kid (with the parents we have already seen on this board) with an SCEA acceptance already in hand who vies for that same spot. Maybe that jerky kid gets in. Maybe that jerky kid elbowed out another kid at that same high school from being accepted. These are not de minimis chances. While not necessarily likely, they are pretty substantial.

The point is that your lacrosse and pianist argument means it is even more egregious when an unhooked kid with an acceptance already in hand is elbowing out other unhooked kids for the 1-2 slots available at other elite schools.

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Why is a kid “jerky” if they are not breaking any contracts and wish to keep 1-2 serious options open as they have every right to do? If you knew my DC in person, you would know just how un-jerky they are, which appears to be a large reason why they were admitted early to HYPSM in the first place (their AO specifically noted the positive impact they’ve had on their community). The colleges will determine whom they would like to admit - it’s not the kid’s responsibility to bow out in favor of those less competitive (in the adcom’s eyes). Your perspective, which I recognize is shared by a number of posters but certainly not all on this thread, feels very Harrison Bergeron.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s always a simple matter of kids in the same private school being compared to each other. Kids with similar academic/extracurricular profiles are also compared against one another. You don’t know if your star lacrosse player/pianist private school kid is being compared to a similar star lacrosse player/pianist from a similar private school in another state.

Sigh. Yes, athletic recruits are a different animal. But picture an elite school’s bucket: already 2 athletic recruit admits from that high school, plus 1 double legacy and donor type. That’s 3 admits. Now it’s time for 1 and at most 2 high academic flyer unhooked kids. (No way will there be more than 5 admits from that high school.)

So for the 1-2 remaining unhooked slots we have the jerky kid (with the parents we have already seen on this board) with an SCEA acceptance already in hand who vies for that same spot. Maybe that jerky kid gets in. Maybe that jerky kid elbowed out another kid at that same high school from being accepted. These are not de minimis chances. While not necessarily likely, they are pretty substantial.

The point is that your lacrosse and pianist argument means it is even more egregious when an unhooked kid with an acceptance already in hand is elbowing out other unhooked kids for the 1-2 slots available at other elite schools.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This seems like another venue for people to complain abut another student taking their kid's spot...so now the top student is taking your spot?

Exactly! As if it’s the top student’s fault if your kid can’t compete with them…

It's disappointing to not get an admission where you really want one, but to think that one specific student is taking another specific student's spot is pretty ridiculous.

It’s ridiculous that you don’t know how admissions works. Hint: kids from the same high school are compared against each other.

Multiple kids from a high school get into the same elite college. It happens. It happens all the time. Even our small high level but not amazing public high School had 3 admitted to the same hypsm just a couple of years ago.

Do your thing and stay out of other people's business that you don't know anything about.

This is an anonymous message board. Your lack of self-awareness and apparent lack of irony in making that statement is, well, comical.
But just to give you a logic lesson: your multi-admit “evidence” does not support your (implied) conclusion.

I don’t think it’s always a simple matter of kids in the same private school being compared to each other. Kids with similar academic/extracurricular profiles are also compared against one another. You don’t know if your star lacrosse player/pianist private school kid is being compared to a similar star lacrosse player/pianist from a similar private school in another state.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: is

Anonymous wrote:Usually when admitted to one of the T5, kids apply to the rest of HYPSM.

Weirdly one kid at our school also applied to Michigan. Don't know why - think kid wants to go to Michigan and parents want HYPSM.

Getting into one of HYPSM SCEA and then applying to the rest for sh#ts and giggles is the definition of a d#ck move. The better private schools discourage trophy hunting since it harms everyone else in the class. Not sure what private school this is, but I'd suggest keeping this move under wraps. The other families will despise you.

But what if it's not trophy hunting?

Who is applying early to both MIT and Yale except the trophy hunters?

Kids that aren’t sure where they want to go and want to know what their options are by getting admitted.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This seems like another venue for people to complain abut another student taking their kid's spot...so now the top student is taking your spot?

Exactly! As if it’s the top student’s fault if your kid can’t compete with them…

It's disappointing to not get an admission where you really want one, but to think that one specific student is taking another specific student's spot is pretty ridiculous.

It’s ridiculous that you don’t know how admissions works. Hint: kids from the same high school are compared against each other.

Multiple kids from a high school get into the same elite college. It happens. It happens all the time. Even our small high level but not amazing public high School had 3 admitted to the same hypsm just a couple of years ago.

Do your thing and stay out of other people's business that you don't know anything about.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This seems like another venue for people to complain abut another student taking their kid's spot...so now the top student is taking your spot?

Exactly! As if it’s the top student’s fault if your kid can’t compete with them…

It's disappointing to not get an admission where you really want one, but to think that one specific student is taking another specific student's spot is pretty ridiculous.

It’s ridiculous that you don’t know how admissions works. Hint: kids from the same high school are compared against each other.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At our well-known west coast private, students admitted early to elite REA/SCEA schools are required to withdraw their applications to other schools. Students sign a contract beforehand agreeing to this condition.

I think you are confusing REA/SCEA with ED. One signs the contract for ED. I've never heard of a public or private school requiring a contract for SCEA. If OP is talking about ED, then continuing to apply to other schools is a dick move.

I am definitely not confusing REA/SCEA with ED. I just went through this process and am very familiar with it. And one of the reasons I mention the policy of our private school -- one most people on this board would know -- is to underline that in fact some schools have a policy that forbids students accepted early to HYPSM from applying elsewhere in RD.

If this is Harvard-Westlake, I believe early HYPS early admits *are* allowed to apply to more schools in RD, just not any other HYPS schools. Schools like MIT and Caltech appear to be exempt from this policy.

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Anonymous wrote:I know of 2 kids who did this. Different cities, different privates and different years. One got into Yale early and the other got into Princeton. Both picked Harvard RD. One lost friends because of this. She went to a small private in NYC and everyone was mad at her. She ended up getting into every school she applied to. Her BSF from HS also got into Harvard but they no longer talk because of this.

What was the ending to this story? Did the Yale SCEA admit and Princeton SCEA admit both end up going to Harvard instead of choosing their SCEA schools? Or were they really just trying to trophy hunt?

They are both at Harvard. Harvard was the top choice for the one who got into Yale but she thought she had a better chance early to Yale. The one who applied to Princeton was undecided. DD is at Harvard and knows both of them.

I think it's reasonable for the kids got into the one of T5 apply to the other 4. But I don't understand the mentality of applying 20 additional colleges including the top state flagships that they won't even consider going.