Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 14:03     Subject: Re:Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
It is a valid reward for their service. It comes with no guarantees of a job.

Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 13:47     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
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Anonymous wrote:Military service is not DEI. The US military is incredibly diverse. Less than 50 percent of soldiers are white males. Whatever preference federal hiring may give to former service members, it's not because of their race, gender, orientation etc. It's simply a recognition of their service to the country and to give them a small boost as they transition into the civilian world. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. If people are upset about it, they have every opportunity to serve themselves.

Well said.


Nobody is upset about it. But it is a form of DEI.


No one is upset, because Veterans are owed this. Veterans are a cut bellow, they require hiring preferences, that goes beyond DEI.


"a cut bellow," huh?
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 13:44     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Military service is not DEI. The US military is incredibly diverse. Less than 50 percent of soldiers are white males. Whatever preference federal hiring may give to former service members, it's not because of their race, gender, orientation etc. It's simply a recognition of their service to the country and to give them a small boost as they transition into the civilian world. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. If people are upset about it, they have every opportunity to serve themselves.

Well said.


Nobody is upset about it. But it is a form of DEI.


No one is upset, because Veterans are owed this. Veterans are a cut bellow, they require hiring preferences, that goes beyond DEI.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 13:44     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:DEI refers to the characteristics that are not earned or competency based.


So military status is DEI for jobs that are unrelated to military service.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 13:41     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:Let me point out I have the utmost respect for veterans and think we as a country owe them for their service. But if you use their military service as a "leg up" in the private sector or for government jobs isn't that just another DEI classification? Just want to debate the merits of it if GOP wants to do away with all DEI.


Yes. Vets first then women….
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 13:40     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
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Anonymous wrote:Let me point out I have the utmost respect for veterans and think we as a country owe them for their service. But if you use their military service as a "leg up" in the private sector or for government jobs isn't that just another DEI classification? Just want to debate the merits of it if GOP wants to do away with all DEI.


Many veterans are disabled, which is definitely DEI. Vets will be significantly hurt through these efforts.


Which is exactly why veteran's organizations resoundingly endorsed Harris. The felon made it clear yesterday that he didn't like people with missing limbs or wheelchairs and that he would blame them for killing Americans. That essentially he didn't like the FAA hiring them. I don't know how much more clear he can make it for active military and veterans. It was obvious before and crystal clear yesterday.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 13:38     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
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Anonymous wrote:Let me point out I have the utmost respect for veterans and think we as a country owe them for their service. But if you use their military service as a "leg up" in the private sector or for government jobs isn't that just another DEI classification? Just want to debate the merits of it if GOP wants to do away with all DEI.


It's earned.


It’s a preference that is earned based on military service. That does not negate that it is a preference so sounds a lot like DEI.

This looks like what hard conservatives who hate “socialist policies” and welfare queens when they are told about their medicare or SS or medicaid for the old wife in the nursing home. Ooops. Novody hates veterans and i think it is fair that they get the preference but it still a preference.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 13:37     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
If we are eliminating hiring preferences, than veteran's preferences need to be eliminated. Though, I'm not sure how relevant it will be since the felon is gutting the VA and he blamed the military for the DC crash before an investigation, so it's not like they care about active military or veterans.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 13:29     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:DEI refers to the characteristics that are not earned or competency based.

Exactly. See civil service exams that award extra points (to increase one's ranking on the list) simply for having been a veteran. This applies to jobs that have very specific educational background & professional skill sets requirements in order to be considered for hiring. Those extra points give a bump that has nothing to do with competency.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 13:29     Subject: Re:Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
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Anonymous wrote:It's how JD Vance got into Yale Law School.

Because every veteran gets into Yale Law School?


Unlike every minorities I guess *shrug*
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 13:18     Subject: Re:Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
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Anonymous wrote:It's how JD Vance got into Yale Law School.


I’ve heard that he also used “economic diversity” because he was from WV


Also geographic diversity. Easier to get into Yale from rural WV, they literally lower the qualifications based solely on geography! That is the opposite of merit.


Once again, he graduated from Ohio State summa cum laude.
That probably had something to do with his acceptance to Yale.


Do you give the same benefit of the doubt to others in perceived DEI categories?


MAGAs would NEVER give the benefit of doubt to a black woman who graduated from Ohio State summa cum laude. They would just smirk and say "DEI hire."


Every. Single. Time.


I just read an article on a female pilot who grinded for 12 years to achieve her status only to be looked at as a DEI hire by most people. She's even had passengers refuse to fly with her when they board and find out she's the Captain and question her abilities to her face and in front of other passengers.


And this is yet another reason why the rhetoric of the current administration is so detrimental to anyone that isn't a white male. Women and minorities already have to work twice as hard to prove themselves only to now be called "DEI hires"


We have to take the phrase back. We need to start teasing them and make them fools for continuing to use the phrase. I wouldn't care if you stepped off of my plane. You lost your money. It's the same with people refusing to let a doctor of color treat them or their kids. You are the one who's sick.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 13:15     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:Let me point out I have the utmost respect for veterans and think we as a country owe them for their service. But if you use their military service as a "leg up" in the private sector or for government jobs isn't that just another DEI classification? Just want to debate the merits of it if GOP wants to do away with all DEI.


Many veterans are disabled, which is definitely DEI. Vets will be significantly hurt through these efforts.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 13:00     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Military service is not DEI. The US military is incredibly diverse. Less than 50 percent of soldiers are white males. Whatever preference federal hiring may give to former service members, it's not because of their race, gender, orientation etc. It's simply a recognition of their service to the country and to give them a small boost as they transition into the civilian world. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. If people are upset about it, they have every opportunity to serve themselves.

Well said.


Nobody is upset about it. But it is a form of DEI.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 12:59     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:Military service is not DEI. The US military is incredibly diverse. Less than 50 percent of soldiers are white males. Whatever preference federal hiring may give to former service members, it's not because of their race, gender, orientation etc. It's simply a recognition of their service to the country and to give them a small boost as they transition into the civilian world. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. If people are upset about it, they have every opportunity to serve themselves.

Well said.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 12:58     Subject: Re:Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:It's how JD Vance got into Yale Law School.

Because every veteran gets into Yale Law School?