Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 22:37     Subject: Why does Trump, an atheist, appeal to so many Christians?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Often, Christians look down on atheists, thinking they’re stupid or evil.

Meanwhile, a lot of Christians voted for Trump, an obvious atheist. Why do you think that is?


Trump is not an "obvious" atheist. He has said many times that God saved him this summer from the assassin's bullet.

Frankly, OP, how dare you judge someone else's relationship with God.


I'm assuming it's because in order to really call yourself a Christian you'd have to practice Christianity on some level. He doesn't do that with his language or deeds.


This is a fallacy.
Only one thing must be true in order to “call yourself a Christian” and that is that you have professed to believe that Christ is your savior who died for YOUR sins.
Perfection is not expected or required.
A certain set of behaviors is not expected or required.
Why?
Because we are all sinners. Every one of us. We cannot possibly earn this free gift of salvation. It is not earned. It is given.
We are saved not by what we do or have done but by grace through what HE has done for us.

So while many Christians may try to live a “good life” by following the example of Christ in loving and serving our neighbor in order to honor and glorify God, this is NOT what saves ANY of us. At all. Not thise you consider to be “good Christians” nor Trump. Relying on self is a certain failure.
Relying on Jesus Christ is certain eternal life.

Christians are not people who live perfect lives. Christians are sinful people who are forgiven by Gods Grace and who accept His gift of salvation through Christ Jesus.



Like Trump?
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 22:36     Subject: Why does Trump, an atheist, appeal to so many Christians?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please stop calling him an atheist. It's such an offensive insinuation, just because you think he's immoral. He's a Christian. He identifies as a Christian. If you're a Christian and that bothers you, then challenge him when it comes to matters of your faith. But don't lump Trump in with atheists, just because you don't like him. Many of us have far, far better values and ethics.


Very well said!


Trump may be immoral, but not because he's an atheist. I'm personally acquainted with many atheists and none of hem are immoral.

Very few people are as immoral as Trump. It's unrelated to his atheism, in my opinion.


Correct. Atheism has nothing to do with immorality. Trump is simply an immoral person, unrelated to religion in any way.

Many of his followers are religious, however.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 22:34     Subject: Why does Trump, an atheist, appeal to so many Christians?
Anonymous wrote:I don't think Trump is an atheist. I think he believes in some sort of higher power, and I think the assassination attempt cemented that belief. I don't think he's a fundamentalist Christian, but I think he respects people of faith, and that he has faith in something greater than himself.


The failed assassination attempt proved to him how Special he is. Trump respects no one and thinks he is the greatest thing that ever happened.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 22:29     Subject: Why does Trump, an atheist, appeal to so many Christians?
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, stop trying to insinuate that Trump is an atheist. Atheists don't want him either.


It doesn't matter if you want him or not. He's a man too -- are you a man? He's white. He's of Geman descent, etc, etc.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 22:27     Subject: Why does Trump, an atheist, appeal to so many Christians?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please stop calling him an atheist. It's such an offensive insinuation, just because you think he's immoral. He's a Christian. He identifies as a Christian. If you're a Christian and that bothers you, then challenge him when it comes to matters of your faith. But don't lump Trump in with atheists, just because you don't like him. Many of us have far, far better values and ethics.


Very well said!


Trump may be immoral, but not because he's an atheist. I'm personally acquainted with many atheists and none of hem are immoral.

Very few people are as immoral as Trump. It's unrelated to his atheism, in my opinion.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 21:38     Subject: Why does Trump, an atheist, appeal to so many Christians?
Anonymous wrote:Christianity in America has changed. It’s not about helping those in need. Christian churches have become political. Many pastors preach unrelenting right wing messaging from the pulpit. It’s pretty crazy.


Crazy and dangerous that real Christians cannot see this!
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 21:37     Subject: Why does Trump, an atheist, appeal to so many Christians?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's like how the Pharisees saw Pontius Pilate as a useful tool to do their bidding of crucifying Jesus. They like his policies, but not necessarily him.


I know plenty of Christians who like him. They are mainly white male Christians though.


They are "cafeteria Christians" who only take the parts of Christianity they like and leave the rest. They make rules for others based on Christian principles, but believe rules don't apply to them....just like Trump.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 21:15     Subject: Why does Trump, an atheist, appeal to so many Christians?
Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of Christians have never read the Bible and don’t actually believe in the teachings of Christ. It’s just a cultural thing for them.


+1 Maybe a handful have really read deeply into the the Bible but for the vast majority it is a cultural thing, not something deeply philosophical.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 21:00     Subject: Why does Trump, an atheist, appeal to so many Christians?
Yeah, stop trying to insinuate that Trump is an atheist. Atheists don't want him either.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 20:57     Subject: Why does Trump, an atheist, appeal to so many Christians?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't think Trump is an atheist. I think he believes in some sort of higher power, and I think the assassination attempt cemented that belief. I don't think he's a fundamentalist Christian, but I think he respects people of faith, and that he has faith in something greater than himself.


If he did, the. He wouldn’t have had such a virulent reaction to Bishop Budde who was trying to impart Christian values to him. She’s a real Christian and he has no respect for her.


Bishop Budde was rude and hateful, with no respect for the office of the presidency.


LOL. She is far from rude and hateful.

But you clearly described Trump and his supporters. Rude and hateful with no respect for the office of the presidency.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 20:56     Subject: Why does Trump, an atheist, appeal to so many Christians?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please stop calling him an atheist. It's such an offensive insinuation, just because you think he's immoral. He's a Christian. He identifies as a Christian. If you're a Christian and that bothers you, then challenge him when it comes to matters of your faith. But don't lump Trump in with atheists, just because you don't like him. Many of us have far, far better values and ethics.


Link where he said this or it didn't happen and you made it up in your brain.




And don't tell me he's baptized as a baby and that makes him Christian. If that's all you got, forget it
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 20:54     Subject: Why does Trump, an atheist, appeal to so many Christians?
Anonymous wrote:Please stop calling him an atheist. It's such an offensive insinuation, just because you think he's immoral. He's a Christian. He identifies as a Christian. If you're a Christian and that bothers you, then challenge him when it comes to matters of your faith. But don't lump Trump in with atheists, just because you don't like him. Many of us have far, far better values and ethics.


Link where he said this or it didn't happen and you made it up in your brain.


Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 20:52     Subject: Why does Trump, an atheist, appeal to so many Christians?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't think Trump is an atheist. I think he believes in some sort of higher power, and I think the assassination attempt cemented that belief. I don't think he's a fundamentalist Christian, but I think he respects people of faith, and that he has faith in something greater than himself.


Hun, the assassination convinced him that he's like some Marvel superhero, unstoppable. The devil believes in God too.

He has no respect for people of faith. They are useful tools.


Lol "hun," believe whatever you need to in order to make it through this life.



Sure,sure but nothing to say about the atheist President?

Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 19:56     Subject: Why does Trump, an atheist, appeal to so many Christians?
Anonymous wrote:Please stop calling him an atheist. It's such an offensive insinuation, just because you think he's immoral. He's a Christian. He identifies as a Christian. If you're a Christian and that bothers you, then challenge him when it comes to matters of your faith. But don't lump Trump in with atheists, just because you don't like him. Many of us have far, far better values and ethics.


The party of "He's a Christian. He identifies as a Christian." can't wrap their heads around trans folx, but they can mental yoga themselves into the knot it takes to fit this twisted logic. Fascinating.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 19:55     Subject: Why does Trump, an atheist, appeal to so many Christians?
Anonymous wrote:Please stop calling him an atheist. It's such an offensive insinuation, just because you think he's immoral. He's a Christian. He identifies as a Christian. If you're a Christian and that bothers you, then challenge him when it comes to matters of your faith. But don't lump Trump in with atheists, just because you don't like him. Many of us have far, far better values and ethics.


Very well said!