Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the teachers are paid less than public teachers. It is expected that excellent private school teachers will work for less, because they are so excellent that they only care about the kids and their passion for education, yet the heads need to be attracted by these huge salaries? Make it make sense.

The heads work for the board and are terminated / replaced based on performance. Don’t be so dim.

And the teachers can't be terminated or replaced based on performance?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a HOS and I agree with a lot of the people here that say heads are overpaid. Yes, it is a brutally challenging role: you have to fundraise, know curriculum, help teachers grow, deal with difficult parents, and be innovative. However, the professional lives of our teachers are also complicated, as are division heads’ and others’.

Simply put, I think most heads should be ashamed to make the money we make while paying our teachers so little.


I am not trying to sound like a martyr, but I have gladly taken far less money than I could so that our teachers and others can get larger raises. For me, that is what leadership looks like.

lol. Bs. You are not a hos. Heads are better writers and write longer essays with more detail. I’ve been reading this for forum for years, and you would officially be the first head of school to identify themselves as such. I have to think actual heads want nothing to do with this forum and would exercise better discretion. There’s no way an actual HOS would be here resurrecting some random 10 month old thread just to cleanse their soul the night before Thanksgiving, because you feel guilty about earning so much, but so proud that you have asked for your income to be held in check.

New poster. HOS are good writers?!! You should see ours! DC and friends have fun counting the number of grammar mistakes after each long pontification that their HoS sends.

You missed the point. The poster is not an HOS.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a HOS and I agree with a lot of the people here that say heads are overpaid. Yes, it is a brutally challenging role: you have to fundraise, know curriculum, help teachers grow, deal with difficult parents, and be innovative. However, the professional lives of our teachers are also complicated, as are division heads’ and others’.

Simply put, I think most heads should be ashamed to make the money we make while paying our teachers so little.


I am not trying to sound like a martyr, but I have gladly taken far less money than I could so that our teachers and others can get larger raises. For me, that is what leadership looks like.

lol. Bs. You are not a hos. Heads are better writers and write longer essays with more detail. I’ve been reading this for forum for years, and you would officially be the first head of school to identify themselves as such. I have to think actual heads want nothing to do with this forum and would exercise better discretion. There’s no way an actual HOS would be here resurrecting some random 10 month old thread just to cleanse their soul the night before Thanksgiving, because you feel guilty about earning so much, but so proud that you have asked for your income to be held in check.

New poster. HOS are good writers?!! You should see ours! DC and friends have fun counting the number of grammar mistakes after each long pontification that their HoS sends.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think this is true. There is a massive teacher shortage nationally—people are leaving the profession in droves, and the consensus is that many veteran teachers would not recommend the profession to college graduates. The state of American education across many types of schooling is in deep crisis.

People keep saying this. I’ll believe it when salaries start to go up. But there’s still not exactly a bidding war right now.

Anonymous wrote:I am a HOS and I agree with a lot of the people here that say heads are overpaid. Yes, it is a brutally challenging role: you have to fundraise, know curriculum, help teachers grow, deal with difficult parents, and be innovative. However, the professional lives of our teachers are also complicated, as are division heads’ and others’.

Simply put, I think most heads should be ashamed to make the money we make while paying our teachers so little.


I am not trying to sound like a martyr, but I have gladly taken far less money than I could so that our teachers and others can get larger raises. For me, that is what leadership looks like.

Not hard. You can take half of your pay and give it voluntarily to the teachers in your school. Problem solved.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a HOS and I agree with a lot of the people here that say heads are overpaid. Yes, it is a brutally challenging role: you have to fundraise, know curriculum, help teachers grow, deal with difficult parents, and be innovative. However, the professional lives of our teachers are also complicated, as are division heads’ and others’.

Simply put, I think most heads should be ashamed to make the money we make while paying our teachers so little.


I am not trying to sound like a martyr, but I have gladly taken far less money than I could so that our teachers and others can get larger raises. For me, that is what leadership looks like.

lol. Bs. You are not a hos. Heads are better writers and write longer essays with more detail. I’ve been reading this for forum for years, and you would officially be the first head of school to identify themselves as such. I have to think actual heads want nothing to do with this forum and would exercise better discretion. There’s no way an actual HOS would be here resurrecting some random 10 month old thread just to cleanse their soul the night before Thanksgiving, because you feel guilty about earning so much, but so proud that you have asked for your income to be held in check.

+1000

Anonymous wrote:I always love it when wealthy people want the highest quality leaders in the government or non-profit institutions with which they engage but are horrified when those leaders are compensated in a way that matches the skill, qualifications, and contributions they expect of them. Leadership matters and it's usually worth the investment.

+1

Anonymous wrote:I am a HOS and I agree with a lot of the people here that say heads are overpaid. Yes, it is a brutally challenging role: you have to fundraise, know curriculum, help teachers grow, deal with difficult parents, and be innovative. However, the professional lives of our teachers are also complicated, as are division heads’ and others’.

Simply put, I think most heads should be ashamed to make the money we make while paying our teachers so little.


I am not trying to sound like a martyr, but I have gladly taken far less money than I could so that our teachers and others can get larger raises. For me, that is what leadership looks like.

lol. Bs. You are not a hos. Heads are better writers and write longer essays with more detail. I’ve been reading this for forum for years, and you would officially be the first head of school to identify themselves as such. I have to think actual heads want nothing to do with this forum and would exercise better discretion. There’s no way an actual HOS would be here resurrecting some random 10 month old thread just to cleanse their soul the night before Thanksgiving, because you feel guilty about earning so much, but so proud that you have asked for your income to be held in check.

HoS salaries are in line with all other major executive positions in the US economy. Ballooning while most workers stagnate.

Teachers and teaching are woefully undervalued in the US, and it will only get worse with the AI era.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think this is true. There is a massive teacher shortage nationally—people are leaving the profession in droves, and the consensus is that many veteran teachers would not recommend the profession to college graduates. The state of American education across many types of schooling is in deep crisis.

Wages are very much driven by gender composition. As more women join a field, such as medicine, wages seem to go down. Not saying it’s right.

I don’t think this is true. There is a massive teacher shortage nationally—people are leaving the profession in droves, and the consensus is that many veteran teachers would not recommend the profession to college graduates. The state of American education across many types of schooling is in deep crisis.

HOS pay — it’s not really about fairness. Try paying less and see what you get.

On the flip side, schools have no problems finding teachers at low salaries. Why?

I’m convinced a lot of this is that idealistic people who become teachers, almost by definition, don’t understand the financial tradeoffs. (On the flip side, investment bankers, again almost by definition, certainly do.) So there’s an oversupply in teaching, do-good roles that drives prices down.

Obviously private schools teach this implicitly (through social contact mostly) but I really wish public schools would help all kids better understand the financial consequences of different career paths.

It’s just like the housing debate. Housing is expensive because everyone wants to live in the city (demand) and there are too few houses. Teacher pay is cr*p because too many people go into teaching. It’s not the Man.

Anonymous wrote:I am a HOS and I agree with a lot of the people here that say heads are overpaid. Yes, it is a brutally challenging role: you have to fundraise, know curriculum, help teachers grow, deal with difficult parents, and be innovative. However, the professional lives of our teachers are also complicated, as are division heads’ and others’.

Simply put, I think most heads should be ashamed to make the money we make while paying our teachers so little.


I am not trying to sound like a martyr, but I have gladly taken far less money than I could so that our teachers and others can get larger raises. For me, that is what leadership looks like.

Laughable.

You want a "brutally challenging role?" Try being a police officer. Or an ICU nurse.

This is why I would never send my kid to a religious school, even Quaker. I think it’s very valuable being able to look at the 990 form. Field school head is overpaid by like 200k. And I see the worth in paying private school heads north of 500k but it should be for a large or well endowed school.

I am a HOS and I agree with a lot of the people here that say heads are overpaid. Yes, it is a brutally challenging role: you have to fundraise, know curriculum, help teachers grow, deal with difficult parents, and be innovative. However, the professional lives of our teachers are also complicated, as are division heads’ and others’.

Simply put, I think most heads should be ashamed to make the money we make while paying our teachers so little.


I am not trying to sound like a martyr, but I have gladly taken far less money than I could so that our teachers and others can get larger raises. For me, that is what leadership looks like.