Anonymous
01/20/2025 13:38
Subject: Dc proposes 10 cent bottle/can deposit
I favor a “pay by the pound” strategy where people who pick up trash and deliver it to acceptance facilities across the city are paid a fee for each pound of trash they submit. I would like to see all the trash off our streets and out of our parks, not just plastic bottles. I live near the Zoo and it is astonishing what people dump where they park, even with trash cans nearby. I regularly find dirty diapers, food trash, cups, bottles, cans, plastic wrapping that was ripped open. People can be pigs with no remorse.
Anonymous
01/20/2025 13:38
Subject: Dc proposes 10 cent bottle/can deposit
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Option A: Actually enforce DC littering laws.
https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/littering-enforcement-help-keep-dc-clean
Option B: Create more bureaucracy that will be ineffective but cost DC residents and retailers more.
DC progressives. “Option B!”
I lived in Idaho and they give money for recycling (at least at the time).
Not exactly a bastion of progressives.
Serious question- in Idaho, do you already have curbside recycling pickup of mixed recyclables? Like you can put your cans, cardboard, plastic and aluminum all in one bin 1x a week?
Anonymous
01/20/2025 13:32
Subject: Re:Dc proposes 10 cent bottle/can deposit
Anonymous wrote:Bottle deposits make no sense in the age of single-stream recycling. Right now us DC residents put all our recycling (bottles, cans, paper, cardboard, plastic, etc.) in the blue bin where it gets picked up each week (sometimes twice a week depending on where you live). This idea that we're going to sort our returnables separately, store them in our house for a while, and finally take them back to the grocery story to be redeemed like it's 1992 is completely nuts.
Yes, I grew up in a state with a bottle deposit.
Holy crap, so much this.
Next up: DC Council distributes AOL CDs for free internet access, imposes all-new fee on residents who get internet service via Verizon. Oh wait …
Anonymous
01/20/2025 13:18
Subject: Dc proposes 10 cent bottle/can deposit
This is a progressive tax with much higher than usual costs. But the costs are pushed onto the bottle distributers, who need to add only-in-DC barcodes, and grocery stores, which add the recycling machines, and recycling pickup, which has to add new pick-ups at grocery stores.
If it's worthwhile to pick up litter, raise income or property taxes and pay for it.
If it's worthwhile to pick up litter, raise income or property taxes and pay for it.
Anonymous
01/20/2025 10:44
Subject: Dc proposes 10 cent bottle/can deposit
Anonymous wrote:Option A: Actually enforce DC littering laws.
https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/littering-enforcement-help-keep-dc-clean
Option B: Create more bureaucracy that will be ineffective but cost DC residents and retailers more.
DC progressives. “Option B!”
I lived in Idaho and they give money for recycling (at least at the time).
Not exactly a bastion of progressives.
Anonymous
01/20/2025 09:55
Subject: Dc proposes 10 cent bottle/can deposit
Option A: Actually enforce DC littering laws.
https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/littering-enforcement-help-keep-dc-clean
Option B: Create more bureaucracy that will be ineffective but cost DC residents and retailers more.
DC progressives. “Option B!”
https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/littering-enforcement-help-keep-dc-clean
Option B: Create more bureaucracy that will be ineffective but cost DC residents and retailers more.
DC progressives. “Option B!”
Anonymous
01/20/2025 07:38
Subject: Dc proposes 10 cent bottle/can deposit
I believe part of the reason to do this is it allows the plastic of the bottles to be reused as food grade plastic, repeatedly. Single stream recycling means the plastic types are mixed so the bottles can only be used in other kinds of products that make it to dumps faster, cannot be reused as a food container.
Anonymous
01/19/2025 23:13
Subject: Dc proposes 10 cent bottle/can deposit
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is totally on brand for progressive crazies. Rather than addressing the actual problem, LITTERING, they come up with a new expensive program that won’t solve the underlying problem. I just can’t anymore with these people.
I hate progressive crazies as much as you do, but it does clean up the bottles because their other pet project (homeless people everywhere) will be incentivized to go and clean up a little. Yes the rest of the plastic trash will still be left around but at least bottles would be picked up.
Since they’re releasing violent criminals back on the streets even after multiple offenses, it will be a cold day in hell before they ever punish someone for littering.
Why not just the homeless directly to pick up trash? Skip the deposit.
Well that would be forcing people to work and contribute, and democrats are against that.
Anonymous
01/19/2025 21:59
Subject: Dc proposes 10 cent bottle/can deposit
Anonymous wrote:The Council shouldn’t be allowed to create a new program until they can show that they can effectively run the leaf collection program. Which they currently cannot.
That's DPW, but point taken.
Anonymous
01/19/2025 18:43
Subject: Dc proposes 10 cent bottle/can deposit
Gosh, I wonder if this is regressive?
Anonymous
01/19/2025 18:39
Subject: Dc proposes 10 cent bottle/can deposit
The Council shouldn’t be allowed to create a new program until they can show that they can effectively run the leaf collection program. Which they currently cannot.
Anonymous
01/19/2025 14:37
Subject: Dc proposes 10 cent bottle/can deposit
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is totally on brand for progressive crazies. Rather than addressing the actual problem, LITTERING, they come up with a new expensive program that won’t solve the underlying problem. I just can’t anymore with these people.
Well you know you could move back to whatever flyover state that come from
I’ve lived here long enough to know that DC is incapable of correctly executing this. I do know that some campaign contributor is going to get rich running the “nonprofit” that industry is being forced to attempt to run this undertaking.
Anonymous
01/19/2025 14:00
Subject: Dc proposes 10 cent bottle/can deposit
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is totally on brand for progressive crazies. Rather than addressing the actual problem, LITTERING, they come up with a new expensive program that won’t solve the underlying problem. I just can’t anymore with these people.
I hate progressive crazies as much as you do, but it does clean up the bottles because their other pet project (homeless people everywhere) will be incentivized to go and clean up a little. Yes the rest of the plastic trash will still be left around but at least bottles would be picked up.
Since they’re releasing violent criminals back on the streets even after multiple offenses, it will be a cold day in hell before they ever punish someone for littering.
Why not just the homeless directly to pick up trash? Skip the deposit.
Anonymous
01/19/2025 13:34
Subject: Dc proposes 10 cent bottle/can deposit
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Eh I am from a state that does this and have zero issues with it.
+100
Colorado (Boulder/Denver) has this no issues.
In areas that do not offer municipal curbside recycling, the bottle tax makes some sense. In cities like DC where there is an existing municipal recycling program, it makes little sense.
This 100%.
Anonymous
01/19/2025 13:33
Subject: Dc proposes 10 cent bottle/can deposit
Anonymous wrote:I just moved to a state that does this. I have seen homeless people pick up discarded cans off the street. Literally cleaning up litter.
We collect our cans in a separate container. It takes zero extra seconds.
And then what do you do with them rather than putting them in your regular curbside single-stream recycling bin?