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Post 01/21/2025 17:13     Subject: Re:Davenport St NW

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Anonymous wrote:I used to live on Davenport Street and I fully support them doing this. That street is for local use by residents. It's not designed for heavy commuter traffic. DC should stop congestion major roads like Conn Ave with stupid bike lanes and let the commuters get in and out of the city in peace.


Let’s repeat this. You do NOT own a public street. The banning of commuter traffic on certain streets happens mainly in upper northwest.
The only way to lesson traffic (bike lanes have nothing to do with it), is to reduce car dependent. Work from home goes a long way in doing this. So expect traffic to get much worse if feds start back five days a week. Much much worse.
—an urban planner


It's already much much worse on lower volume because that is what DDOT has intentionally done. When traffic lanes are narrowed and removed, traffic lights and cameras are increased, and random streets and turns are blocked off then congestion becomes worse. This is a man made problem not a function of increased population or traffic.


The “neighbors” are not complaining about congestion. They are complaining about unsafe driving. Yet the rejected the traffic calming solutions put forth by DDOT. What the really want is to close the street to traffic, which yes, is privileged and deluded.


Play whatever word games make you happy but they're complaining about too many people using the road. That's why they want to ban other people from using the street. Normal people call that congestion.


People driving unsafely down the street is not “congestion.”


But you're forgetting that according to DDOT, and the backers of this proposal, congestion increases safety. The more people that use it the safer it becomes. They should be pleased at how much safer it has become since Albemarle was blocked off and how much safer it will be when they remove two more lanes from Connecticut.


Albemarle will be reopened when the construction is done. The complaints are meaningless.


The Albemarle reopening is like Waiting for Godot. No sign of workers for months now. Just an idle excavator. The Forest Hills Connection even did a story on how residents of Albermarle have been jubilating with kids being able to roam freely, neighbors throwing block parties and getting to know each other better. This closure ain't ending any time soon.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 16:46     Subject: Re:Davenport St NW

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Anonymous wrote:I used to live on Davenport Street and I fully support them doing this. That street is for local use by residents. It's not designed for heavy commuter traffic. DC should stop congestion major roads like Conn Ave with stupid bike lanes and let the commuters get in and out of the city in peace.


Let’s repeat this. You do NOT own a public street. The banning of commuter traffic on certain streets happens mainly in upper northwest.
The only way to lesson traffic (bike lanes have nothing to do with it), is to reduce car dependent. Work from home goes a long way in doing this. So expect traffic to get much worse if feds start back five days a week. Much much worse.
—an urban planner


It's already much much worse on lower volume because that is what DDOT has intentionally done. When traffic lanes are narrowed and removed, traffic lights and cameras are increased, and random streets and turns are blocked off then congestion becomes worse. This is a man made problem not a function of increased population or traffic.


The “neighbors” are not complaining about congestion. They are complaining about unsafe driving. Yet the rejected the traffic calming solutions put forth by DDOT. What the really want is to close the street to traffic, which yes, is privileged and deluded.


Play whatever word games make you happy but they're complaining about too many people using the road. That's why they want to ban other people from using the street. Normal people call that congestion.


People driving unsafely down the street is not “congestion.”


But you're forgetting that according to DDOT, and the backers of this proposal, congestion increases safety. The more people that use it the safer it becomes. They should be pleased at how much safer it has become since Albemarle was blocked off and how much safer it will be when they remove two more lanes from Connecticut.


Albemarle will be reopened when the construction is done. The complaints are meaningless.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 16:45     Subject: Davenport St NW

Anonymous wrote:I live in Forest Hills and occasionally use Davenport to get to the park. The problem with Davenport on that block is that the road is too narrow and windy for two way traffic. It’s unsafe. The road should be one way and well. I understand that would be annoying for people who live there, it seems like the best solution.


They opposed speed humps and they would oppose this as well. Sorry, their concerns are no longer relevant. They blew that when they rejected the safety measured offered by the city.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 16:44     Subject: Re:Davenport St NW

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Anonymous wrote:I used to live on Davenport Street and I fully support them doing this. That street is for local use by residents. It's not designed for heavy commuter traffic. DC should stop congestion major roads like Conn Ave with stupid bike lanes and let the commuters get in and out of the city in peace.


Let’s repeat this. You do NOT own a public street. The banning of commuter traffic on certain streets happens mainly in upper northwest.
The only way to lesson traffic (bike lanes have nothing to do with it), is to reduce car dependent. Work from home goes a long way in doing this. So expect traffic to get much worse if feds start back five days a week. Much much worse.
—an urban planner


It's already much much worse on lower volume because that is what DDOT has intentionally done. When traffic lanes are narrowed and removed, traffic lights and cameras are increased, and random streets and turns are blocked off then congestion becomes worse. This is a man made problem not a function of increased population or traffic.


The “neighbors” are not complaining about congestion. They are complaining about unsafe driving. Yet the rejected the traffic calming solutions put forth by DDOT. What the really want is to close the street to traffic, which yes, is privileged and deluded.


Play whatever word games make you happy but they're complaining about too many people using the road. That's why they want to ban other people from using the street. Normal people call that congestion.


Then they should move to a cul de sac somewhere out in the suburbs. It is a city and they live on a city street.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 16:43     Subject: Davenport St NW

Anonymous wrote:What the neighbor calls a "shortcut" is just my normal route. Should I drive way out of my way and add 15 minutes to my commute to convenience her? I guess everything is a "shortcut" if it takes someone past your house.

Please don't make this the same mess that the people on Fessenden did, where now you have to by pass your own street and unnecessarily, stupidly drive into Tenleytown and back out again to get home just so you drive past your neighbors's hour on one block of Fessenden. Ridiculous.


A shortcut is when one might drive across private property, like a field, to get from point A to point B in an expedient manner. A public road is never a "shortcut" - it is a public road. Period.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 16:33     Subject: Re:Davenport St NW

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Anonymous wrote:I used to live on Davenport Street and I fully support them doing this. That street is for local use by residents. It's not designed for heavy commuter traffic. DC should stop congestion major roads like Conn Ave with stupid bike lanes and let the commuters get in and out of the city in peace.


Let’s repeat this. You do NOT own a public street. The banning of commuter traffic on certain streets happens mainly in upper northwest.
The only way to lesson traffic (bike lanes have nothing to do with it), is to reduce car dependent. Work from home goes a long way in doing this. So expect traffic to get much worse if feds start back five days a week. Much much worse.
—an urban planner


It's already much much worse on lower volume because that is what DDOT has intentionally done. When traffic lanes are narrowed and removed, traffic lights and cameras are increased, and random streets and turns are blocked off then congestion becomes worse. This is a man made problem not a function of increased population or traffic.


The “neighbors” are not complaining about congestion. They are complaining about unsafe driving. Yet the rejected the traffic calming solutions put forth by DDOT. What the really want is to close the street to traffic, which yes, is privileged and deluded.


Play whatever word games make you happy but they're complaining about too many people using the road. That's why they want to ban other people from using the street. Normal people call that congestion.


People driving unsafely down the street is not “congestion.”


But you're forgetting that according to DDOT, and the backers of this proposal, congestion increases safety. The more people that use it the safer it becomes. They should be pleased at how much safer it has become since Albemarle was blocked off and how much safer it will be when they remove two more lanes from Connecticut.


I don’t disagree with DDOT - narrowing the street slows cars down and makes it safer. the “neighbors” apparently want zero cars.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 14:10     Subject: Re:Davenport St NW

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Anonymous wrote:I used to live on Davenport Street and I fully support them doing this. That street is for local use by residents. It's not designed for heavy commuter traffic. DC should stop congestion major roads like Conn Ave with stupid bike lanes and let the commuters get in and out of the city in peace.


Let’s repeat this. You do NOT own a public street. The banning of commuter traffic on certain streets happens mainly in upper northwest.
The only way to lesson traffic (bike lanes have nothing to do with it), is to reduce car dependent. Work from home goes a long way in doing this. So expect traffic to get much worse if feds start back five days a week. Much much worse.
—an urban planner


It's already much much worse on lower volume because that is what DDOT has intentionally done. When traffic lanes are narrowed and removed, traffic lights and cameras are increased, and random streets and turns are blocked off then congestion becomes worse. This is a man made problem not a function of increased population or traffic.


The “neighbors” are not complaining about congestion. They are complaining about unsafe driving. Yet the rejected the traffic calming solutions put forth by DDOT. What the really want is to close the street to traffic, which yes, is privileged and deluded.


Play whatever word games make you happy but they're complaining about too many people using the road. That's why they want to ban other people from using the street. Normal people call that congestion.


People driving unsafely down the street is not “congestion.”


But you're forgetting that according to DDOT, and the backers of this proposal, congestion increases safety. The more people that use it the safer it becomes. They should be pleased at how much safer it has become since Albemarle was blocked off and how much safer it will be when they remove two more lanes from Connecticut.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 14:07     Subject: Davenport St NW

Anonymous wrote:What the neighbor calls a "shortcut" is just my normal route. Should I drive way out of my way and add 15 minutes to my commute to convenience her? I guess everything is a "shortcut" if it takes someone past your house.

Please don't make this the same mess that the people on Fessenden did, where now you have to by pass your own street and unnecessarily, stupidly drive into Tenleytown and back out again to get home just so you drive past your neighbors's hour on one block of Fessenden. Ridiculous.


Wait, what?
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 14:04     Subject: Davenport St NW

Anonymous wrote:I live in Forest Hills and occasionally use Davenport to get to the park. The problem with Davenport on that block is that the road is too narrow and windy for two way traffic. It’s unsafe. The road should be one way and well. I understand that would be annoying for people who live there, it seems like the best solution.


Are there many accidents on the street?
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 14:04     Subject: Re:Davenport St NW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I used to live on Davenport Street and I fully support them doing this. That street is for local use by residents. It's not designed for heavy commuter traffic. DC should stop congestion major roads like Conn Ave with stupid bike lanes and let the commuters get in and out of the city in peace.


Let’s repeat this. You do NOT own a public street. The banning of commuter traffic on certain streets happens mainly in upper northwest.
The only way to lesson traffic (bike lanes have nothing to do with it), is to reduce car dependent. Work from home goes a long way in doing this. So expect traffic to get much worse if feds start back five days a week. Much much worse.
—an urban planner


It's already much much worse on lower volume because that is what DDOT has intentionally done. When traffic lanes are narrowed and removed, traffic lights and cameras are increased, and random streets and turns are blocked off then congestion becomes worse. This is a man made problem not a function of increased population or traffic.


The “neighbors” are not complaining about congestion. They are complaining about unsafe driving. Yet the rejected the traffic calming solutions put forth by DDOT. What the really want is to close the street to traffic, which yes, is privileged and deluded.


Play whatever word games make you happy but they're complaining about too many people using the road. That's why they want to ban other people from using the street. Normal people call that congestion.


People driving unsafely down the street is not “congestion.”
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 13:55     Subject: Davenport St NW

I live in Forest Hills and occasionally use Davenport to get to the park. The problem with Davenport on that block is that the road is too narrow and windy for two way traffic. It’s unsafe. The road should be one way and well. I understand that would be annoying for people who live there, it seems like the best solution.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 13:47     Subject: Davenport St NW

Simple: Speed bumps.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 12:02     Subject: Re:Davenport St NW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I used to live on Davenport Street and I fully support them doing this. That street is for local use by residents. It's not designed for heavy commuter traffic. DC should stop congestion major roads like Conn Ave with stupid bike lanes and let the commuters get in and out of the city in peace.


Let’s repeat this. You do NOT own a public street. The banning of commuter traffic on certain streets happens mainly in upper northwest.
The only way to lesson traffic (bike lanes have nothing to do with it), is to reduce car dependent. Work from home goes a long way in doing this. So expect traffic to get much worse if feds start back five days a week. Much much worse.
—an urban planner


It's already much much worse on lower volume because that is what DDOT has intentionally done. When traffic lanes are narrowed and removed, traffic lights and cameras are increased, and random streets and turns are blocked off then congestion becomes worse. This is a man made problem not a function of increased population or traffic.


The “neighbors” are not complaining about congestion. They are complaining about unsafe driving. Yet the rejected the traffic calming solutions put forth by DDOT. What the really want is to close the street to traffic, which yes, is privileged and deluded.


Play whatever word games make you happy but they're complaining about too many people using the road. That's why they want to ban other people from using the street. Normal people call that congestion.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 11:04     Subject: Davenport St NW

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Anonymous wrote:They’re right; you’re wrong.


No they aren't, and I live on Davenport Street and use it for my commute every day.


How else are you supposed to get home if you live there? No one is talking about you in this post.


How is changing my street and commute not about me?
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 10:54     Subject: Davenport St NW

What the neighbor calls a "shortcut" is just my normal route. Should I drive way out of my way and add 15 minutes to my commute to convenience her? I guess everything is a "shortcut" if it takes someone past your house.

Please don't make this the same mess that the people on Fessenden did, where now you have to by pass your own street and unnecessarily, stupidly drive into Tenleytown and back out again to get home just so you drive past your neighbors's hour on one block of Fessenden. Ridiculous.