A criminal who associated with sketchy people, engaged in criminal acts, and was responsible for harm to other people was gunned down in the streets of New York.

But it was a rich white man, so everyone mourns. Had he been a poor black or brown man, everyone would have shrugged their shoulders and gone “well what do you expect?”

The people upset over this murder weren’t the same ones upset over George Floyd. With Floyd, they said “he was a bad guy with a record, who cares”.

If somebody truly hates all murder and is equally vocal about murder of ALL people - poor people, women (especially women of color), BIPOC, etc - then I have no problem with them also being vocal about this murder.

But I doubt many people are. I just don’t see the Venn diagram of “people upset over rich CEO deaths” and “people upset over black men killed by police” having much overlap.

As my BIPOC H said: “I just can’t get worked up over rich white men killing each other”.

Those of you who think this kind of behavior (murdering someone in cold blood) is acceptable and are actually "celebrating" it, are the epitome of what is wrong with society. All life is sacred, even this deranged individual who took the life of another. I hope he spends the rest of his life in prison.

Anonymous wrote:There is a French revolution "eat the rich" political undertone on both the left and the right. The left quashed the populist Bernie wave... for a little while. Now it's coming out as MAGA.

It's the result of people feeling like the system is rigged against them and it needs a democratic escape vent or people turn to pitchforks and guillotines. This is a dangerous time when a person, say a CEO, can be dehumanized and seen as a symbol of what is wrong with the system.

No, I do not support murdering CEOs. They are people with families and made their way through the system like everyone else.

Oh, I’d say he was more than a symbol. He was literally leading corruption that kills people and getting rich off it.

Mangione should be prosecuted. I also hope the healthcare industry faces prosecution for ruining lives.

Absolutely not!

Anonymous wrote:Of course not. However, I think we can all acknowledge that some people live a low kind of life even when paid millions running companies. You literally couldn’t pay me enough to run a health insurance company or something like Monsanto. Some companies do bad things and have a negative overall effect on the world, and physically hurt a lot of people in the pursuit of making money, and I wouldn’t want to be part of that, let alone to lead it. And I’m conservative FWIW.

Take it a step further, keeping your nose clean isn't enough. These practices need to be stopped.

Anonymous wrote:Most of the new cabinet is going to be ex-CEOS and billionaires. But Trump was elected because populism.

Make it make sense.

I’m a dem and I agree it doesn’t make sense on an *actual logical* level.

But I think it makes sense on an emotional level. Trump managed to tap into something in the Rs that Bernie did in the Ds. (In fact there is surprising overlap between people who voted for Bernie in 2016 and Trump in 2024 despite them being so radically different).

People are frustrated and feel the system is rigged. They are desperate for change and for some that manifests as liberalism and for others it incites a desire to burn it all down. Trump came along and said things no other politician would say and made promises to be a father figure essentially and that he would take care of them and dismantle the systems working against the people.

This is obviously a lie, but some people are truly gullible — I mean look at all the people who believe in aliens in the sky a la Scientology. When someone charismatic tells them something they want to believe then it’s easy to cherry pick “facts” that fit their narrative.

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Anonymous wrote:Absolutely.

I will join my fellow outlier and non-coward here. Yes. Yes I do.

In cases like this guy, who embodied everything wrong with CEO culture, absolutely yes. Very few people have ever deserved a dirt nap more than him.

I’m not a coward. So I’ll say what other people are thinking.

I'm with you. I'm willing to see where this goes.

Of course not. However, I think we can all acknowledge that some people live a low kind of life even when paid millions running companies. You literally couldn’t pay me enough to run a health insurance company or something like Monsanto. Some companies do bad things and have a negative overall effect on the world, and physically hurt a lot of people in the pursuit of making money, and I wouldn’t want to be part of that, let alone to lead it. And I’m conservative FWIW.

Anonymous wrote:Most of the new cabinet is going to be ex-CEOS and billionaires. But Trump was elected because populism.

Make it make sense.

They should think twice about that, because it makes them very public figures.

Anonymous wrote:Of course not. The killer will rightfully spend the rest of his life in prison.

We do not solve problems with guns. The gun culture in this country is insane.

You also blame cars for drunk drivers, right?

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I will join my fellow outlier and non-coward here. Yes. Yes I do.

In cases like this guy, who embodied everything wrong with CEO culture, absolutely yes. Very few people have ever deserved a dirt nap more than him.

I’m not a coward. So I’ll say what other people are thinking.

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Anonymous wrote:Change the question.

Why do you support CEOs killing people every day with their business decisions? Just because it is legal?

How much suffering did wall street bankers impose in the country after 2008 that require us all to collectively bail them out? How much suffering do healthcare exec inflict in thousands of people per day? When the high and nightly inflict suffering they are never punished for their crimes. They are rewarded for it with taxpayer bailouts, higher stock prices, and bigger paychecks.

You're asking the wrong question. Why do you support CEO malfeasance?

Sure ask thst question

Fight for real change which will not happen just by killing a CEO. Only stupid people think that way.

For large organizations, these guys are just as interchangeable. I'm sure there is an acting CEO who took over that guys work.

But this is un-American. Everyone is entitled to a trial by a jury of their peers

Maybe that doesn't matter anymore in this new America

So how do you suppose we change things then? American citizens cannot change the govt because citizens United has given unlimited buying and lobbying power to corporations and special interest groups to corrupt our government. The institutions that are supposed to regulate these businesses have also been captured.

So please tell us all how we are supposed to change this corporate oppression when we can't democratically elect officials to change laws since they're all bought by corporations or are blocked from doing so because of citizens United.

You can’t murder people either to get your way. Back to the drawing board

And yet murdering entire classrooms of 7 year olds also doesn't change anything because of corporate and special interest lobbying.

Just bend over and take it, whether it is from uncontrollable gun violence to healthcare CEOs milling people en masse.

Come up with a new idea since all the others aren’t working. It’s not up to others to solve your problems. Be the change.

? It actually IS up to the people we elect to solve our problems. Otherwise, why are we electing them? And there ARE ideas right now in Congress. There is just no political will to make it happen.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/3421

Stop electing the same people over and over again expecting change.

No.

The shooter clearly suffered from mental illness and psychosis.

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Anonymous wrote:I would never do something like that, but I certainly don't feel bad about their deaths.

It isn't as of ordinary Americans have asked (or work hard) for a better life, for a very long time. People are tired of struggling and getting nowhere, while the rich keep getting richer.

And no, many CEO's or people in positions of power didn't get there because they "worked hard" - they got there because of privilege, connections, and putting massive greed above ethics. It's a kind of selfishness that many are personally offended by, because it affects them and their daily lives.

So I wouldn't say I support it. But I get it.

This is about where I'm at. Not supporting or celebrating, but I get it and would say I'm pretty apathetic about it? We are a country who doesn't care when a bunch of kindergarteners are slaughtered, we've accepted that as a culturally normal and acceptable thing, so with that barometer in mind I don't get misty eyed when some shithead who contributed to so much illness and death is taken out. Would I encourage it? No. Do it myself? Obviously not. But could I get over it if this murderer had taken off to Thailand and we never found him? Ehhh yes.

This is where I’m at. If my kids were shot up at school it would be out of the headlines as soon as the next shooting or big thing pops up. No one would be providing extra security.

Also, where is the thread calling out the lack of empathy for all the people who were harmed/killed by their insurance claims being denied for corporate profit? Those people had families and worked hard too?

That said I dislike guns and wish they weren’t so embedded in our culture. I am not wishing for CEOs to be executed on our streets. But this is also a crime where I’m like ehhh I get the animosity toward the victim (he was engaging in white collar crime). If a gang member is shot dead in the streets we all sort of say yeah, he was a bad guy who pissed someone off and got shot, and then we move along with our lives. And law enforcement is usually not expending major efforts to catch the person who did it.

I am actually upset about the fact that the perpetrator has so many tax dollars going toward finding him because he’s a rich white man while other unknown more vulnerable victims have files growing cold.