Anonymous
Post 12/10/2024 18:33     Subject: Re:Revealed-- Employer Preferences of The Top Colleges
It’s funny that last week people were saying how Berkeley is in its final days and UCLA has easily eclipsed it when employers and grad schools clearly do not agree.

Also, of course, UVA grads need to let everyone know that uva is doing better than subpar.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2024 17:23     Subject: Revealed-- Employer Preferences of The Top Colleges
As suspected Umich overrated.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2024 17:16     Subject: Revealed-- Employer Preferences of The Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:The formatting is killing my brain, so reordered.

First Tier
Harvey Mudd, MIT, CalTech, UPenn, Stanford, Harvard

Second Tier
Dartmouth, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Carnegie Mellon, Yale, Claremont McKenna, Georgetown, UChicago, Columbia, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Rice, Cornell, Berkeley, NYU,

Third Tier
Wasington & Lee, Bowdoin, Georgia Tech, Northeastern, Notre Dame, BU, Pomona, Amherst, Villanova, USC, Emory, Williams, Swarthmore, Barnard, Colgate, Wake Forest, Middlebury, BU, UVA, Tufts, WashU at St. Louis, Wellesley

Fourth Tier
Trinity (TX), Bucknell, Wesleyan, Brandeis, Lehigh, Michigan, UT Austin, Colby, Brown, UCLA, Davidson, Rochester, Wisconsin, Haverford, Case Western, Bates, UNC, Bryn Mawr, Illinois, UC San Diego, Hamilton, Richmond, UMiami, Florida, William & Mary, Kenyon, Georgia, Vassar

Fifth Tier
Tulane, Macalester, Carleton, Grinnell, Smith, Colorado


This is very close to the matriculation stats of Philips Andover matriculations. UVA is seen as superior to Michigan.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2024 17:14     Subject: Revealed-- Employer Preferences of The Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:STEM schools. Are we surprised?


Georgetown is far from STEM school


Not STEM, but its finance graduates account for its graduates' high pay.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2024 17:12     Subject: Revealed-- Employer Preferences of The Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This list is ridiculous. I’ve known plenty of Bucknell grads and haven’t met a single one who doesn’t earn well above average. Most have been working on The Street in client-facing roles since graduation. And whatever you think of Tulane (an endless debate on this board) are we really supposed to believe its graduates earn less than the national average for college grads?


Of all the trolls on here, you are by FAR my favorite <3


😁
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2024 15:24     Subject: Revealed-- Employer Preferences of The Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The formatting is killing my brain, so reordered.

First Tier
Harvey Mudd, MIT, CalTech, UPenn, Stanford, Harvard

Second Tier
Dartmouth, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Carnegie Mellon, Yale, Claremont McKenna, Georgetown, UChicago, Columbia, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Rice, Cornell, Berkeley, NYU,

Third Tier
Wasington & Lee, Bowdoin, Georgia Tech, Northeastern, Notre Dame, BU, Pomona, Amherst, Villanova, USC, Emory, Williams, Swarthmore, Barnard, Colgate, Wake Forest, Middlebury, BU, UVA, Tufts, WashU at St. Louis, Wellesley

Fourth Tier
Trinity (TX), Bucknell, Wesleyan, Brandeis, Lehigh, Michigan, UT Austin, Colby, Brown, UCLA, Davidson, Rochester, Wisconsin, Haverford, Case Western, Bates, UNC, Bryn Mawr, Illinois, UC San Diego, Hamilton, Richmond, UMiami, Florida, William & Mary, Kenyon, Georgia, Vassar

Fifth Tier
Tulane, Macalester, Carleton, Grinnell, Smith, Colorado


I'm a partner in a top consulting firm and don't really agree with this list during our recruiting efforts. I'd probably move many in the third tier up to 2nd, and others down to 4th. Same with 2nd and 4th tier. Other than the first tier, I largely disagree with this list.


I'm a recruiter working mostly in tech, and even so: Princeton and Yale are first tier.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2024 15:16     Subject: Revealed-- Employer Preferences of The Top Colleges
This list seems to be one of the least objectionable college rankings. Not perfect but not full on idiotic.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2024 14:16     Subject: Revealed-- Employer Preferences of The Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:So odd. I thought employers said they were taking Harvard off their list after the protests!



This is from Niche, using 2021 data. Ignore. Worthless
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2024 14:15     Subject: Revealed-- Employer Preferences of The Top Colleges
STEM schools and those geared to finance with the usual colleges founded in the 5th century with boat loads of endowment funds.

Anonymous
Post 12/10/2024 13:40     Subject: Revealed-- Employer Preferences of The Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:Brown grad with a humanities degree here. My starting salary wasn’t high (though was totally fine), but I had multiple offers and a job waiting for me at graduation. I now make $750k in an arts job that at least isn’t actively making the world worse that I didn’t have to go to grad school for. Starting salary isn’t everything.


I'd love to hear more about what you do. My art focused kid about to enter a T20 liberal arts school needs some direction!
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2024 13:39     Subject: Revealed-- Employer Preferences of The Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This list is ridiculous. I’ve known plenty of Bucknell grads and haven’t met a single one who doesn’t earn well above average. Most have been working on The Street in client-facing roles since graduation. And whatever you think of Tulane (an endless debate on this board) are we really supposed to believe its graduates earn less than the national average for college grads?


Of all the trolls on here, you are by FAR my favorite <3


Me too! So incredibly reliable and satisfying. Throw out the bait, catch the fish. Troll eat troll.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2024 13:37     Subject: Revealed-- Employer Preferences of The Top Colleges
This is pretty much a reflection of differences in students' choice of majors among the highly competitive admission colleges. The big employers who hire lots of fresh grads from these schools do not differentiate starting pay by school. The Wall Street two year analyst programs pay the same starting salary regardless of college. McKinsey does not pay their business analysts differently either. The tech firms I know pay fresh grads the same pay for the same roles - i.e., a marketer is not paid the same as a programmer, but all the recent graduate programmers are paid the same whether they went to UMd or MIT.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2024 13:28     Subject: Revealed-- Employer Preferences of The Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:STEM schools. Are we surprised?


Georgetown is far from STEM school
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2024 13:20     Subject: Revealed-- Employer Preferences of The Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mid-career numbers for MIT pretty lackluster compared to Harvard and Penn or Stanford. or Yale or Princeton. I wonder why?


a higher percent goes to PhD/academia


Nope. It’s that engineering is a solid but not great paying career.


Its not all about money….but also the MIT and CMU engineers we know were making over 300k ten years ago in their 30s. Now making 450-500k plus bonuses. Marry either one of them to another similar salary (which is what they each did) and thats a mega rich family. What on earth kind of money does Dcum think you need in life? MIT and other top engineering school grads make very high salaries


you know all outlets apparently.

https://www.collegesimply.com/colleges/massachusetts/massachusetts-institute-of-technology/salaries/

dp.. their numbers are based on those who have federal aid/loans.

It shows UMD CS majors starting median salary around $80K, but UMD website for 2022 grads shows $100K as the starting median salary. A lot of CS majors at UMD don't have any federal loans/aid, and their starting salary is more than $80K.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2024 13:18     Subject: Revealed-- Employer Preferences of The Top Colleges
Anonymous wrote:I wonder if many people here even know that Harvey Mudd's freshmen class had a whopping 231 students.


Small on purpose, not that many people could graduate Harvey Mudd in the first place. It's very similar to Caltech in that way.